Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influence

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human
servile, eloquent, semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler
men born under the influence of Aquarius are burdened, envious, lying
occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer
craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes
smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials, troubled by athletic training
artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families, incorrigible
making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth
accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.
Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system,
the lymphatic system and the immune system.
It causes blindness on account of the water.
It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces
and like-engirding with Capricorn, short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south.
Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia.
The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th
the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th
and the falling water up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth

Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn and moderately Jupiter



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf


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Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS




AQUARIUS is the domicile aka home of SATURN


MOON IS IN SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL AQUARIUS


square SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER

sextile SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN ASSEMBLY



FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




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MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human
servile, eloquent, semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler
men born under the influence of Aquarius are burdened, envious, lying
occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer
craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes
smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials, troubled by athletic training
artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families, incorrigible
making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth
accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.
Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system,
the lymphatic system and the immune system.
It causes blindness on account of the water.
It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces
and like-engirding with Capricorn, short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south.
Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia.
The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th
the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th
and the falling water up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth

Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn and moderately Jupiter



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf


synodicperiod.jpg






Assuming local skies are clear


then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS




AQUARIUS is the domicile aka home of SATURN


MOON IS IN THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL AQUARIUS


sextile SIDEREAL ARIES MARS





square SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER




sextile SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN ASSEMBLY



FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




siderealDay.jpg






MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


saturnalia.jpg
 
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Fishes is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, watery, submerged,
notable, silent, fertile, passionate, missing limbs, polycentric, two-coloured,
swimming, mossy, motile, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates governorship, travel, wealth, water, summons and plots,
those who become endowed with genius, unsteady, trustworthy,
those who are full of ideas, the philosophers, commanders of the fleets, traders,
hound-leaders, hunters, seamen, fowlers, bird-keepers and business expediters.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Pisces
are small, disproportioned and awkward, complicated because of the directions of the Fishes,
changeable, restless, mystical, slight, wandering, popular, slightly sallow,
delicate, with ruddy head, fish eyes, beautiful hair, soft hands,
bright voice and white.
Domicile of Jupiter, exaltation of Venus, depression of Mercury, it controls the feet,
the reproductive system, the digestive system and the integumentary system,
and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Virgo, like-ascending with Aquarius
and like-engirding with Sagittarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.

Pisces controls Phazania, Nasamonitis, Garamantica, Lydia, Cilicia and Pamphylia.
The southern fish head and the southern fish body are rising up to 12th degree,
the southern tail up to the 16th degree, the southern cord up to the 19th,
the northern fish up to the 28th, and the bond up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Venus - fertile, jealousy, with many enemies
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - advancement, elevation, commanding
The next 3° belong to Mercury - intelligence, well-grown, highly frivolous
The next 9° belong to Mars - violent, excessive, with many accusations
The final 2° belong to Saturn - virtuous, wise, dominant

Head of the Southern Fish - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Body of the Southern Fish - Jupiter and Mercury
Southern Tail and Cord - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Body of the Northern Fish - Jupiter and moderately Venus
Northern Cord - Saturn and Jupiter
Bond - Mars and moderately Mercury

Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:

accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf




Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of PISCES


PISCES is the domicile aka home of JUPITER


Jupiter_God_Of_The_Southern_Sky_2_A_Roman_Legend.jpg



MOON is currently travelling FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL PISCES


applying sextile SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN



applying trine SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER




FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI





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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.


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MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
 

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Fishes is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, watery, submerged,
notable, silent, fertile, passionate, missing limbs, polycentric, two-coloured,
swimming, mossy, motile, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates governorship, travel, wealth, water, summons and plots,
those who become endowed with genius, unsteady, trustworthy,
those who are full of ideas, the philosophers, commanders of the fleets, traders,
hound-leaders, hunters, seamen, fowlers, bird-keepers and business expediters.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Pisces
are small, disproportioned and awkward, complicated because of the directions of the Fishes,
changeable, restless, mystical, slight, wandering, popular, slightly sallow,
delicate, with ruddy head, fish eyes, beautiful hair, soft hands,
bright voice and white.
Domicile of Jupiter, exaltation of Venus, depression of Mercury, it controls the feet,
the reproductive system, the digestive system and the integumentary system,
and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Virgo, like-ascending with Aquarius
and like-engirding with Sagittarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.

Pisces controls Phazania, Nasamonitis, Garamantica, Lydia, Cilicia and Pamphylia.
The southern fish head and the southern fish body are rising up to 12th degree,
the southern tail up to the 16th degree, the southern cord up to the 19th,
the northern fish up to the 28th, and the bond up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Venus - fertile, jealousy, with many enemies
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - advancement, elevation, commanding
The next 3° belong to Mercury - intelligence, well-grown, highly frivolous
The next 9° belong to Mars - violent, excessive, with many accusations
The final 2° belong to Saturn - virtuous, wise, dominant

Head of the Southern Fish - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Body of the Southern Fish - Jupiter and Mercury
Southern Tail and Cord - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Body of the Northern Fish - Jupiter and moderately Venus
Northern Cord - Saturn and Jupiter
Bond - Mars and moderately Mercury

Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:

accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of PISCES


PISCES is the domicile aka home of JUPITER


MOON is currently traversing SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL PISCES


sextile SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN



trine SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER



square SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN conjunction






Zeus+Roman+name+%3DJupiter+God+of+%3D+sky%2C+King+of+the+Gods.jpg




FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


siderealperiod.jpg




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.





MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Fishes is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, watery, submerged,
notable, silent, fertile, passionate, missing limbs, polycentric, two-coloured,
swimming, mossy, motile, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates governorship, travel, wealth, water, summons and plots,
those who become endowed with genius, unsteady, trustworthy,
those who are full of ideas, the philosophers, commanders of the fleets, traders,
hound-leaders, hunters, seamen, fowlers, bird-keepers and business expediters.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Pisces
are small, disproportioned and awkward, complicated because of the directions of the Fishes,
changeable, restless, mystical, slight, wandering, popular, slightly sallow,
delicate, with ruddy head, fish eyes, beautiful hair, soft hands,
bright voice and white.
Domicile of Jupiter, exaltation of Venus, depression of Mercury, it controls the feet,
the reproductive system, the digestive system and the integumentary system,
and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Virgo, like-ascending with Aquarius
and like-engirding with Sagittarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.

Pisces controls Phazania, Nasamonitis, Garamantica, Lydia, Cilicia and Pamphylia.
The southern fish head and the southern fish body are rising up to 12th degree,
the southern tail up to the 16th degree, the southern cord up to the 19th,
the northern fish up to the 28th, and the bond up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Venus - fertile, jealousy, with many enemies
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - advancement, elevation, commanding
The next 3° belong to Mercury - intelligence, well-grown, highly frivolous
The next 9° belong to Mars - violent, excessive, with many accusations
The final 2° belong to Saturn - virtuous, wise, dominant

Head of the Southern Fish - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Body of the Southern Fish - Jupiter and Mercury
Southern Tail and Cord - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Body of the Northern Fish - Jupiter and moderately Venus
Northern Cord - Saturn and Jupiter
Bond - Mars and moderately Mercury

Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:

accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of PISCES


PISCES is the domicile aka home of JUPITER




MOON is currently traversing THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL PISCES


sextile SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN


trine SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER



square SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN conjunction




FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.





MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha






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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Ram is masculine, diurnal, changeable, terrestrial, quadrupedal,
agricultural, royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, two-coloured, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, fights, wealth, family, lawsuits, livestock, commanding matters,
those who are governing, brilliant, procuratorial, authoritarian, quickly changing, two-toned,
with decorations of clothing, just, hard on offenders, fiery and the cause of rank.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aries
are independent because of the horns of the Ram, distinguished, bold, intimidating, wealthy, boastful,
restless, youthful, with long face, broad forehead, black eyes, drawn nostrils,
thin lips, strong voice, sloping shoulders and red.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Mars, exaltation of the Sun, depression of Saturn, it controls the head, the muscular system,
the urinary system and the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It is like-empowered with Leo, like-ascending with Capricorn and like-engirding with Scorpio,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Aries commands Aquarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Aries controls Brittania, Galatia, Germania, Palestine, Idumaea and Judaea.
The front and the horns are rising up to the 6th degree, the head up to the 12th,
the body up to the 20th, the hind foot up to the 25th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation from low conditions to greater
The next 6° belong to Venus - love, friendships and intercourse with distinguished women
The next 8° belong to Mercury - intelligent, well-grown, love of labour, advancements
The next 5° belong to Mars - grief, passionate, injuries, unprofitable entanglements
The final 5° belong to Saturn - two-faced, some are trustees, teachers, judges or administrators

Head - Saturn and Mars
Mouth - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Hind Foot - Mars
Tail - Venus


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



Mars%2C+God+of+Agriculture+and+War.jpg







Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of ARIES


ARIES is the domicile aka home of MARS



MOON is currently travelling FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL ARIES



square SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN



sextile SIDEREAL AQUARIUS MERCURY



assembled with SIDEREAL ARIES MARS



trine SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN conjunction










synodicperiod.jpg











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WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Ram is masculine, diurnal, changeable, terrestrial, quadrupedal,
agricultural, royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, two-coloured, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, fights, wealth, family, lawsuits, livestock, commanding matters,
those who are governing, brilliant, procuratorial, authoritarian, quickly changing, two-toned,
with decorations of clothing, just, hard on offenders, fiery and the cause of rank.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aries
are independent because of the horns of the Ram, distinguished, bold, intimidating, wealthy, boastful,
restless, youthful, with long face, broad forehead, black eyes, drawn nostrils,
thin lips, strong voice, sloping shoulders and red.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Mars, exaltation of the Sun, depression of Saturn, it controls the head, the muscular system,
the urinary system and the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It is like-empowered with Leo, like-ascending with Capricorn and like-engirding with Scorpio,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Aries commands Aquarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Aries controls Brittania, Galatia, Germania, Palestine, Idumaea and Judaea.
The front and the horns are rising up to the 6th degree, the head up to the 12th,
the body up to the 20th, the hind foot up to the 25th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation from low conditions to greater
The next 6° belong to Venus - love, friendships and intercourse with distinguished women
The next 8° belong to Mercury - intelligent, well-grown, love of labour, advancements
The next 5° belong to Mars - grief, passionate, injuries, unprofitable entanglements
The final 5° belong to Saturn - two-faced, some are trustees, teachers, judges or administrators

Head - Saturn and Mars
Mouth - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Hind Foot - Mars
Tail - Venus


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


solar-sidereal-large.gif






Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of ARIES


ARIES is the domicile aka home of MARS


MOON is currently travelling FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL ARIES


square SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN


sextile SIDEREAL AQUARIUS MERCURY


assembled with SIDEREAL ARIES MARS


trine SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN conjunction





astro20cpptch01-47-638.jpg








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WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.

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MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


37F14535-0370-4D41-B3FC-394FEC1DE47D.jpg
 

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Ram is masculine, diurnal, changeable, terrestrial, quadrupedal,
agricultural, royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, two-coloured, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, fights, wealth, family, lawsuits, livestock, commanding matters,
those who are governing, brilliant, procuratorial, authoritarian, quickly changing, two-toned,
with decorations of clothing, just, hard on offenders, fiery and the cause of rank.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aries
are independent because of the horns of the Ram, distinguished, bold, intimidating, wealthy, boastful,
restless, youthful, with long face, broad forehead, black eyes, drawn nostrils,
thin lips, strong voice, sloping shoulders and red.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Mars, exaltation of the Sun, depression of Saturn, it controls the head, the muscular system,
the urinary system and the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It is like-empowered with Leo, like-ascending with Capricorn and like-engirding with Scorpio,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Aries commands Aquarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Aries controls Brittania, Galatia, Germania, Palestine, Idumaea and Judaea.
The front and the horns are rising up to the 6th degree, the head up to the 12th,
the body up to the 20th, the hind foot up to the 25th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation from low conditions to greater
The next 6° belong to Venus - love, friendships and intercourse with distinguished women
The next 8° belong to Mercury - intelligent, well-grown, love of labour, advancements
The next 5° belong to Mars - grief, passionate, injuries, unprofitable entanglements
The final 5° belong to Saturn - two-faced, some are trustees, teachers, judges or administrators

Head - Saturn and Mars
Mouth - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Hind Foot - Mars
Tail - Venus


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf




adramelech2-1.png




Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of ARIES


ARIES is the domicile aka home of MARS


MOON is currently travelling SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL ARIES


square SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN


sextile SIDEREAL AQUARIUS MERCURY


assembled with SIDEREAL ARIES MARS


trine SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SATURN conjunction



Mars+Roman+name%3A+Mars+Greek+name%3A+Ares.jpg





FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI



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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


Temples+of+Mars+Mars+Gradivus+%E2%80%93+he+who+precedes+the+army+in+battle.jpg
 

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It is a truncated body by Hellenistic accounts, such as in Ptolemy or Valens.
It is not an ox, but simply the Bull without its hind parts
(there is actually a myth about this).





Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Bull is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
quadrupedal, agricultural, notable, vocal, semi-fertile, passionate,
incomplete, missing limbs, rising backwards, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates celebrations, affairs, agriculture, family, property, cattle,
disturbing and enraging matters, those who are prudent, skillful, pleasure-loving,
music-loving, with priesthood, brilliant and worthy of crowns and of the purple.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Taurus are disproportioned and awkward,
energetic because of the hard-working strength of the Bull, industrious, supervisors,
luxurious, wealthy, generous, distinguished, charming, with full face,
broad forehead, large eyes, large nostrils, big lips, pointed chin, square neck and broad outward brows.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Venus, exaltation of the Moon, it controls the neck, the olfactory system,

the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics,
and it indicates blindness on account of the Pleiades.
It is like-empowered with Cancer, like-ascending with Sagittarius
and like-engirding with Libra, medium in both Hemispheres.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Taurus commands Capricorn in the north and obeys it in the south.
Taurus controls Parthia, Media, Persia, Cyclades, Cyprus and Lesser Asia.
The beginning of the truncated body and the Pleiades are rising up to the 8th degree,
the Hyades up to the 14th, the face and Aldebaran up to the 22nd,
the horns up to the 27th, and the tips of the horns up to the 30th.

The first 8° belong to Venus - love, skilled in the arts, graceful
The next 6° belong to Mercury - peaceful, leadership, trustees
The next 8° belong to Jupiter - beauty, reputation, unexpected advancements
The next 5° belong to Saturn - relaxations, reduction of wealth
The final 3° belong to Mars - violent, condemnations, lawsuits, injuries

Beginning - Venus and moderately Saturn
Pleiades - Jupiter and the Moon
Hyades - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Aldebaran - Mars
Tips of the Horns - Mars



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf



velikovsky_ancient_egypt.jpg




Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of TAURUS


TAURUS is the domicile aka home of VENUS


transiting MOON is in FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL TAURUS


square SIDEREAL AQUARIUS MERCURY


sextile SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN


opposing SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER






337px-Sidereal_time.svg.png










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WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.







MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


Ishtar+Star.jpg
 

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WETtZVc.jpg

It is a truncated body by Hellenistic accounts, such as in Ptolemy or Valens.
It is not an ox, but simply the Bull without its hind parts
(there is actually a myth about this).





Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Bull is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
quadrupedal, agricultural, notable, vocal, semi-fertile, passionate,
incomplete, missing limbs, rising backwards, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates celebrations, affairs, agriculture, family, property, cattle,
disturbing and enraging matters, those who are prudent, skillful, pleasure-loving,
music-loving, with priesthood, brilliant and worthy of crowns and of the purple.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Taurus are disproportioned and awkward,
energetic because of the hard-working strength of the Bull, industrious, supervisors,
luxurious, wealthy, generous, distinguished, charming, with full face,
broad forehead, large eyes, large nostrils, big lips, pointed chin, square neck and broad outward brows.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Venus, exaltation of the Moon, it controls the neck, the olfactory system,

the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics,
and it indicates blindness on account of the Pleiades.
It is like-empowered with Cancer, like-ascending with Sagittarius
and like-engirding with Libra, medium in both Hemispheres.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Taurus commands Capricorn in the north and obeys it in the south.
Taurus controls Parthia, Media, Persia, Cyclades, Cyprus and Lesser Asia.
The beginning of the truncated body and the Pleiades are rising up to the 8th degree,
the Hyades up to the 14th, the face and Aldebaran up to the 22nd,
the horns up to the 27th, and the tips of the horns up to the 30th.

The first 8° belong to Venus - love, skilled in the arts, graceful
The next 6° belong to Mercury - peaceful, leadership, trustees
The next 8° belong to Jupiter - beauty, reputation, unexpected advancements
The next 5° belong to Saturn - relaxations, reduction of wealth
The final 3° belong to Mars - violent, condemnations, lawsuits, injuries

Beginning - Venus and moderately Saturn
Pleiades - Jupiter and the Moon
Hyades - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Aldebaran - Mars
Tips of the Horns - Mars



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



velikovsky_ancient_egypt.jpg




Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of TAURUS


TAURUS is the domicile aka home of VENUS


transiting MOON is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL TAURUS


square SIDEREAL AQUARIUS MERCURY


sextile SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN


opposing SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER



solar-sidereal-large.gif






FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


Ishtar+Star.jpg
 

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A day or so after New Moon
a waxing crescent moon
appears in the west shortly after sunset.
Some people think a moon visible in the west after sunset is a rising moon.

It’s not
it’s a setting moon.
As Earth spins under the sky, all sky objects rise in the east and set in the west.
A waxing crescent moon – visible in the western sky
– follows the sun below the western horizon.
A waxing crescent moon has nothing to do with Earth’s shadow on the moon.
Earth’s shadow can fall on the moon only at full moon during a lunar eclipse.
There is a shadow on a crescent moon, but it’s the moon’s own shadow.
Night on the moon happens on the part of the moon submerged in the moon’s own shadow.
Likewise, night on Earth happens on the part of Earth submerged in Earth’s own shadow.

What many think is Earth’s shadow on a crescent moon is really something else.
It’s earthshine, the pale glow on the darkened portion (night side) of a crescent moon.
It’s caused by light reflected from Earth’s day side onto the moon.
After all, when you see a crescent moon in Earth’s sky
any moon people looking back at our world would see a nearly full Earth :smile:
 

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It is a truncated body by Hellenistic accounts, such as in Ptolemy or Valens.
It is not an ox, but simply the Bull without its hind parts
(there is actually a myth about this).





Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Bull is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
quadrupedal, agricultural, notable, vocal, semi-fertile, passionate,
incomplete, missing limbs, rising backwards, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates celebrations, affairs, agriculture, family, property, cattle,
disturbing and enraging matters, those who are prudent, skillful, pleasure-loving,
music-loving, with priesthood, brilliant and worthy of crowns and of the purple.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Taurus are disproportioned and awkward,
energetic because of the hard-working strength of the Bull, industrious, supervisors,
luxurious, wealthy, generous, distinguished, charming, with full face,
broad forehead, large eyes, large nostrils, big lips, pointed chin, square neck and broad outward brows.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Venus, exaltation of the Moon, it controls the neck, the olfactory system,

the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics,
and it indicates blindness on account of the Pleiades.
It is like-empowered with Cancer, like-ascending with Sagittarius
and like-engirding with Libra, medium in both Hemispheres.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Taurus commands Capricorn in the north and obeys it in the south.
Taurus controls Parthia, Media, Persia, Cyclades, Cyprus and Lesser Asia.
The beginning of the truncated body and the Pleiades are rising up to the 8th degree,
the Hyades up to the 14th, the face and Aldebaran up to the 22nd,
the horns up to the 27th, and the tips of the horns up to the 30th.

The first 8° belong to Venus - love, skilled in the arts, graceful
The next 6° belong to Mercury - peaceful, leadership, trustees
The next 8° belong to Jupiter - beauty, reputation, unexpected advancements
The next 5° belong to Saturn - relaxations, reduction of wealth
The final 3° belong to Mars - violent, condemnations, lawsuits, injuries

Beginning - Venus and moderately Saturn
Pleiades - Jupiter and the Moon
Hyades - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Aldebaran - Mars
Tips of the Horns - Mars



Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of TAURUS


TAURUS is the domicile aka home of VENUS


transiting MOON is in THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL TAURUS


square SIDEREAL AQUARIUS SUN MERCURY assembly


opposing SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER



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FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha




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ABOVE IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF DECANS
- EACH SIGN HAS THREE DECANS OF TEN DEGREES EACH
EACH DECAN IS RULED BY ONE OF THE SEVEN VISIBLE CLASSICAL PLANETS
and so
EACH DECAN IS DEMARCATED WITH THE SYMBOL OF ITS PLANET








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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Twins is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, human, common, eloquent,
semi-fertile, rising backwards, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, eloquence, trade, mysticism, gentle and austere matters,
those who are educated, scholars, poetical, music lovers, declaimers, stewards,
those who receive some trusts, translators, merchants, judges of good and evil,
sensible people, the astrologers and guardians of the secret matters.



Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Gemini are sensible, changeable, curious, articulate, prudent,
public, mystical, temperate, with fine face, good complexion, large beautiful eyes, o
pen nostrils, fine lips because the Twins are charming in conversation,
exchanging, broad shoulders and white.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mercury, it controls the shoulders, arms and hands, the vestibular system,
the gustatory system and the auditory system.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Scorpio and like-engirding with Virgo, medium in both Hemispheres.
It is summery, hot and dry in the north, and wintry, cold and moist in the south.
Gemini commands Sagittarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Gemini controls Hyrcania, Armenia, Mantinea, Cyrenaica, Marmarica and Egypt.
The feet are rising up to the 6th degree, the lower legs up to the 12th,
the lower parts up to the 17th, the higher parts up to the 25th,
and the heads, Castor and Pollux up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Mercury - stillness, obstructions, rest
The next 6° belong to Jupiter - good fortune, kind
The next 5° belong to Venus - bloom, beautiful, fortunate from unexpected things
The next 7° belong to Mars - powerful, regulative authority, advancing
The final 6° belong to Saturn - subordination, bonds, reduction of wealth

Feet - Mercury and moderately Venus
Thighs - Saturn
Castor - Mercury
Pollux - Mars

Andromeda - Venus
Aquila - Jupiter and Mars
Auriga - Mars and Mercury
Boötes - Saturn and Mercury, Arcturus - Jupiter and Mars
Cassiopeia - Saturn and Venus
Cepheus - Saturn and Jupiter
Coma Berenices - Venus and the Moon
Corona Borealis - Venus and Mercury
Cygnus - Venus and Mercury
Delphinus - Saturn and Mars
Draco - Saturn, Jupiter and Mars
Hercules - Mercury
Lyra - Venus and Mercury
Ophiuchus - Saturn and moderately Venus
Pegasus - Mars and Mercury
Perseus - Saturn and Jupiter, Cluster - Mars and Mercury
Sagitta - Mars and moderately Venus
Serpens - Saturn and Mars
Triangulum - Mercury
Ursa Major - Mars
Ursa Minor - Saturn and moderately Venus

Ara - Venus and moderately Mercury
Argo - Saturn and Jupiter
Canis Major - Venus, Sirius - Jupiter and moderately Mars
Canis Minor - Venus, Procyon - Mercury and moderately Mars
Centaurus - Venus and Mercury, Equine Body - Jupiter and Venus
Cetus - Saturn
Corona Australis - Saturn and Mercury
Corvus - Saturn and Mars
Crater - Venus and moderately Mercury
Eridanus - Saturn, Achernar - Jupiter
Hydra - Saturn and Venus
Lepus - Saturn and Mercury
Lupus - Saturn and moderately Mars
Orion - Saturn and Jupiter, Shoulders - Mars and Mercury
Piscis Australis - Venus and Mercury

Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night

and using ALDEBARAN 15

MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
travelling the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI

GEMINI is the domicile aka home of MERCURY



transiting MOON HAS JUST INGRESSED FIRST DECAN of the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI



trine SIDEREAL AQUARIUS SUN MERCURY Assembly


sextile SIDEREAL ARIES MARS


opposing SIDEREAL VENUS SATURN Assembly




VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




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Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.


2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.


3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.


4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.







MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Twins is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, human, common, eloquent,
semi-fertile, rising backwards, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, eloquence, trade, mysticism, gentle and austere matters,
those who are educated, scholars, poetical, music lovers, declaimers, stewards,
those who receive some trusts, translators, merchants, judges of good and evil,
sensible people, the astrologers and guardians of the secret matters.



Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Gemini are sensible, changeable, curious, articulate, prudent,
public, mystical, temperate, with fine face, good complexion, large beautiful eyes, o
pen nostrils, fine lips because the Twins are charming in conversation,
exchanging, broad shoulders and white.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mercury, it controls the shoulders, arms and hands, the vestibular system,
the gustatory system and the auditory system.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Scorpio and like-engirding with Virgo, medium in both Hemispheres.
It is summery, hot and dry in the north, and wintry, cold and moist in the south.
Gemini commands Sagittarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Gemini controls Hyrcania, Armenia, Mantinea, Cyrenaica, Marmarica and Egypt.
The feet are rising up to the 6th degree, the lower legs up to the 12th,
the lower parts up to the 17th, the higher parts up to the 25th,
and the heads, Castor and Pollux up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Mercury - stillness, obstructions, rest
The next 6° belong to Jupiter - good fortune, kind
The next 5° belong to Venus - bloom, beautiful, fortunate from unexpected things
The next 7° belong to Mars - powerful, regulative authority, advancing
The final 6° belong to Saturn - subordination, bonds, reduction of wealth

Feet - Mercury and moderately Venus
Thighs - Saturn
Castor - Mercury
Pollux - Mars

Andromeda - Venus
Aquila - Jupiter and Mars
Auriga - Mars and Mercury
Boötes - Saturn and Mercury, Arcturus - Jupiter and Mars
Cassiopeia - Saturn and Venus
Cepheus - Saturn and Jupiter
Coma Berenices - Venus and the Moon
Corona Borealis - Venus and Mercury
Cygnus - Venus and Mercury
Delphinus - Saturn and Mars
Draco - Saturn, Jupiter and Mars
Hercules - Mercury
Lyra - Venus and Mercury
Ophiuchus - Saturn and moderately Venus
Pegasus - Mars and Mercury
Perseus - Saturn and Jupiter, Cluster - Mars and Mercury
Sagitta - Mars and moderately Venus
Serpens - Saturn and Mars
Triangulum - Mercury
Ursa Major - Mars
Ursa Minor - Saturn and moderately Venus

Ara - Venus and moderately Mercury
Argo - Saturn and Jupiter
Canis Major - Venus, Sirius - Jupiter and moderately Mars
Canis Minor - Venus, Procyon - Mercury and moderately Mars
Centaurus - Venus and Mercury, Equine Body - Jupiter and Venus
Cetus - Saturn
Corona Australis - Saturn and Mercury
Corvus - Saturn and Mars
Crater - Venus and moderately Mercury
Eridanus - Saturn, Achernar - Jupiter
Hydra - Saturn and Venus
Lepus - Saturn and Mercury
Lupus - Saturn and moderately Mars
Orion - Saturn and Jupiter, Shoulders - Mars and Mercury
Piscis Australis - Venus and Mercury

Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


roman-mythology-power-point-14-728.jpg







Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night

and using ALDEBARAN 15

MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
travelling the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI

GEMINI is the domicile aka home of MERCURY



transiting MOON IS IN SECOND DECAN of the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI



trine SIDEREAL AQUARIUS SUN MERCURY Assembly


sextile SIDEREAL ARIES MARS


opposing SIDEREAL VENUS SATURN Assembly




VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI



siderealDay.jpg









Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.


2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.


3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.


4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.







MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.

The image of the Twins is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, human, common, eloquent,
semi-fertile, rising backwards, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, eloquence, trade, mysticism, gentle and austere matters,
those who are educated, scholars, poetical, music lovers, declaimers, stewards,
those who receive some trusts, translators, merchants, judges of good and evil,
sensible people, the astrologers and guardians of the secret matters.



Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Gemini are sensible, changeable, curious, articulate, prudent,
public, mystical, temperate, with fine face, good complexion, large beautiful eyes, o
pen nostrils, fine lips because the Twins are charming in conversation,
exchanging, broad shoulders and white.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mercury, it controls the shoulders, arms and hands, the vestibular system,
the gustatory system and the auditory system.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Scorpio and like-engirding with Virgo, medium in both Hemispheres.
It is summery, hot and dry in the north, and wintry, cold and moist in the south.
Gemini commands Sagittarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Gemini controls Hyrcania, Armenia, Mantinea, Cyrenaica, Marmarica and Egypt.
The feet are rising up to the 6th degree, the lower legs up to the 12th,
the lower parts up to the 17th, the higher parts up to the 25th,
and the heads, Castor and Pollux up to the 30th.

The first 6° belong to Mercury - stillness, obstructions, rest
The next 6° belong to Jupiter - good fortune, kind
The next 5° belong to Venus - bloom, beautiful, fortunate from unexpected things
The next 7° belong to Mars - powerful, regulative authority, advancing
The final 6° belong to Saturn - subordination, bonds, reduction of wealth

Feet - Mercury and moderately Venus
Thighs - Saturn
Castor - Mercury
Pollux - Mars

Andromeda - Venus
Aquila - Jupiter and Mars
Auriga - Mars and Mercury
Boötes - Saturn and Mercury, Arcturus - Jupiter and Mars
Cassiopeia - Saturn and Venus
Cepheus - Saturn and Jupiter
Coma Berenices - Venus and the Moon
Corona Borealis - Venus and Mercury
Cygnus - Venus and Mercury
Delphinus - Saturn and Mars
Draco - Saturn, Jupiter and Mars
Hercules - Mercury
Lyra - Venus and Mercury
Ophiuchus - Saturn and moderately Venus
Pegasus - Mars and Mercury
Perseus - Saturn and Jupiter, Cluster - Mars and Mercury
Sagitta - Mars and moderately Venus
Serpens - Saturn and Mars
Triangulum - Mercury
Ursa Major - Mars
Ursa Minor - Saturn and moderately Venus

Ara - Venus and moderately Mercury
Argo - Saturn and Jupiter
Canis Major - Venus, Sirius - Jupiter and moderately Mars
Canis Minor - Venus, Procyon - Mercury and moderately Mars
Centaurus - Venus and Mercury, Equine Body - Jupiter and Venus
Cetus - Saturn
Corona Australis - Saturn and Mercury
Corvus - Saturn and Mars
Crater - Venus and moderately Mercury
Eridanus - Saturn, Achernar - Jupiter
Hydra - Saturn and Venus
Lepus - Saturn and Mercury
Lupus - Saturn and moderately Mars
Orion - Saturn and Jupiter, Shoulders - Mars and Mercury
Piscis Australis - Venus and Mercury

Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



Day+of+Mercury+Mercoled%C3%AC+Dies+Mercurii+Wednesday+Mittwoch.jpg






Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night

and using ALDEBARAN 15

MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
travelling the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI

GEMINI is the domicile aka home of MERCURY



transiting MOON IS IN THIRD DECAN of the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI



trine SIDEREAL AQUARIUS SUN MERCURY Assembly


sextile SIDEREAL ARIES MARS


opposing SIDEREAL VENUS SATURN Assembly





weekstar.jpg




VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI



siderealDay.jpg









Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.


2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.


3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.


4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.







MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The twelvefold circle has no beginning, but it is so-held to begin with Cancer.

The image of the Crab is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian, notable, silent, fertile,
digging, with many limbs, two-coloured, rising backwards, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates household, travel, matters standing in the way, water, celebrations,
those who become theatrical, constantly changing, luxurious, pleasure-loving, party-giving,
unsteady of mind, those who get involved in many activities and those who say one thing, but think another,
wanderers, hucksters, retailers, moneylenders, gardeners and those who cultivate the paths.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Cancer
are small, popular, ambitious, wealthy, travelling and wandering
because the Crab and the Moon do not walk straight,
lavish, mindful, public, cheerful, with large face, wide head, sunken eyes,
higher lower part of the body, crooked teeth, shaggy hair and dark.
Domicile of the Moon, exaltation of Jupiter, depression of Mars, it controls the chest,
the respiratory system, the upper gastrointestinal tract and the eyesight,
especially the left eye, and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the Beehive Cluster.
It is like-empowered with Taurus and like-ascending with Libra,
tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is summery, hot and dry in the north, and wintry, cold and moist in the south.
Cancer commands Scorpio in the north and obeys it in the south.
Cancer controls Noumidia, Carthage, Africa, Bithynia, Phrygia and Colchica.
The back and the first two limbs are rising up to the 7th degree, the next two limbs
and the Beehive Cluster up to the 13th, the head and the next two limbs up to the 19th,
the last two limbs and the claws up to the 26th, and the pincers up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mars - hostilities, dangers, travel
The next 6° belong to Venus - passionate, graceful
The next 6° belong to Mercury - intelligent, trade, speech
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - good fortune, some are religious
The final 4° belong to Saturn - irregular, restless

Eyes - Mercury and moderately Mars
Claws - Saturn and Mercury
Beehive Cluster - Mars and the Moon
Asellus Borealis and Asellus Australis - Mars and the Sun


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



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Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of CANCER


CANCER is the domicile aka home of THE MOON


MOON HAS RECENTLY INGRESSED FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL CANCER





square SIDEREAL ARIES MARS







trine with SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER




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FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.



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MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

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Interesting info re the Moon :smile:
All weird facts about the Moon aside, this is what I find most intriguing:


- First, ancient writings:

The Earth Without the Moon
The period when the Earth was Moonless is probably the most remote recollection of mankind.
Democritus and Anaxagoras taught that there was a time when the Earth was without the Moon.(1)


Aristotle wrote that Arcadia in Greece, before being inhabited by the Hellenes,
had a population of Pelasgians, and that these aborigines occupied the land already
before there was a moon in the sky above the Earth;
for this reason they were called Proselenes.(2)
Apollonius of Rhodes mentioned the time
“when not all the orbs were yet in the heavens, before the Danai and Deukalion races came into existence,
and only the Arcadians lived, of whom it is said
that they dwelt on mountains and fed on acorns,
before there was a moon.” (3)

Plutarch wrote in The Roman Questions:
“There were Arcadians of Evander’s following, the so-called pre-Lunar people.”(4)

Similarly wrote Ovid: “The Arcadians are said to have possessed their land before the birth of Jove,
and the folk is older than the Moon.” (5)


Hippolytus refers to a legend that
“Arcadia brought forth Pelasgus, of greater antiquity than the moon.”(6)

Lucian in his Astrology says that
“the Arcadians affirm in their folly that they are older than the moon.”(7)

Censorinus also alludes to the time in the past when there was no moon in the sky.


https://www.varchive.org/itb/sansmoon.htm

- Then, there are large deposits of titanium on the Moon, 10 times more than on Earth.
But what is really interesting is that processed metals such as brass, as well as uranium 236 (nuclear waste)
and neptunium 237 (waste in production of plutonium)
have been found on the Moon
(look at official NASA website).
These isotopes never occur naturally.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The twelvefold circle has no beginning, but it is so-held to begin with Cancer.

The image of the Crab is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian, notable, silent, fertile,
digging, with many limbs, two-coloured, rising backwards, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates household, travel, matters standing in the way, water, celebrations,
those who become theatrical, constantly changing, luxurious, pleasure-loving, party-giving,
unsteady of mind, those who get involved in many activities and those who say one thing, but think another,
wanderers, hucksters, retailers, moneylenders, gardeners and those who cultivate the paths.

Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Cancer
are small, popular, ambitious, wealthy, travelling and wandering
because the Crab and the Moon do not walk straight,
lavish, mindful, public, cheerful, with large face, wide head, sunken eyes,
higher lower part of the body, crooked teeth, shaggy hair and dark.
Domicile of the Moon, exaltation of Jupiter, depression of Mars, it controls the chest,
the respiratory system, the upper gastrointestinal tract and the eyesight,
especially the left eye, and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the Beehive Cluster.
It is like-empowered with Taurus and like-ascending with Libra,
tall in the Northern Hemisphere and short in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is summery, hot and dry in the north, and wintry, cold and moist in the south.
Cancer commands Scorpio in the north and obeys it in the south.
Cancer controls Noumidia, Carthage, Africa, Bithynia, Phrygia and Colchica.
The back and the first two limbs are rising up to the 7th degree, the next two limbs
and the Beehive Cluster up to the 13th, the head and the next two limbs up to the 19th,
the last two limbs and the claws up to the 26th, and the pincers up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mars - hostilities, dangers, travel
The next 6° belong to Venus - passionate, graceful
The next 6° belong to Mercury - intelligent, trade, speech
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - good fortune, some are religious
The final 4° belong to Saturn - irregular, restless

Eyes - Mercury and moderately Mars
Claws - Saturn and Mercury
Beehive Cluster - Mars and the Moon
Asellus Borealis and Asellus Australis - Mars and the Sun


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf



images






Assuming local skies are clear

then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15


MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide :smile:
in CONSTELLATION of CANCER


CANCER is the domicile aka home of THE MOON


MOON is travelling THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL CANCER





square SIDEREAL ARIES MARS







trine with SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER




unit-3-part-1-the-first-civilization-sumer-15-638.jpg





FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.

2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.

3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.

4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.



5965234817_61ea237da0_b.jpg





MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
 
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