USA Nov. 2020 Presidential Election, the Democrat Party Contenders

leomoon

leomoon

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leomoon said:
His short list includes Senator Kamala Harris. She was once a prosecutor in California- and like Senator Elizabeth Warren, has a lot of promise and experience in the Senate. She'd be perfect, (either one of them)


As for Biden accusations from a woman or maybe 2 in his lifetime? I already said YES, I'll support him as the "lesser of two evils". And for the100th time now, my first choice was Senator Sanders. But Joe 'will have to do" anyone but the rapist Trump.



Their Progressed Charts look quite interesting for November 3rd.



If anyone knows how to read progressed charts or believes in their accuracy I'll be happy to post them.


Trump btw, is going to have 2 Eclipses hitting his natal chart near the General Elections. One occurs on Nov. 30th, a Lunar Eclipse and the other Solar Eclipse hits his chart on December 15th.


He is also having a Nodal Return quincunx his Jupiter on November 3rd! :unsure: The inconjunction is usually seen as a health issue in charts between planets. Whatever happens, it won't be a happy occasion aspect.



Moderator moved the chart and question I posed earlier, so you can also see it here on this link, if you have an astrological opinion, I'd love to hear it from anyone reading:


https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1041295&posted=1#post1041295




David Starling: Do YOU have experience with Progressions and Eclipses? This sounds like something can be brewing.
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So nobody here on this forum page, has any interest in Astrology with the Elections? :pouty: Strange to say the least.
 
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david starling

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I see Trump as Saturn in Capricorn's most repugnant representative, attempting to keep the slowly but steadily increasing Uranian Age-influence from raising the overall intelligence level and creating a better world for all the creatures of Earth. Since the entire power structure that now rules our mundane lives is Saturnian in nature, Trump is firmly on its side, while pretending to be an "outsider".

Biden is "Saturn-lite", the best people can do under the circumstances, and much better suited to the Saturn in Aquarius era that will kick in once the Jupiter-Aquarius Year begins in December.
 
leomoon

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Excellently written, Astrologer Jan Seymour speaks about the New Moon :
New Moon in Taurus applying to conjunct Uranus and squaring Saturn in Aquarius


https://angelicastrology.com/blog/f/this-new-moon-%E2%80%93-is-getting-back-to-what-was-really-where-it%E2%80%99s-at




then: Watch for Jupiter conjoining Pluto again - just after the scheduled General Election:


I believe we’ll be finding a lot of buried treasures on this forced inner journey. Jupiter - the Planet of exploring, expanding and travel will join Pluto – Planet of the Under/Inner World 3 times this year 4/5/20, 6/30/20 and 11/12/20. We’re going into some deep dark territory – meeting corruption and greed, but also discovering good things we didn’t know existed because of the call to action
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All this stirring up fits with this New Moon and the Pluto Station squaring Mercury in Aries. Mars will likely be triggering more anger in the months to come - as it squares Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter and goes Retrograde as we get closer to the election. Anarchy and bloodshed are possibilities!
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I hope not! :crying:
 
Dirius

Dirius

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leomoon said:
Are you an American Citizen? IF so, WHO will you vote for this year? :sad: Who in your estimation of allowable candidates, holds the high ground and is the Democratic or Republican choice will you cast your right to vote? Trump has already made it IMPOSSIBLE to vote for any of the Republicans who wanted to run for President. This included Larry Hogan (R-Md)


Lets see WHO darius supports with his precious vote?
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Yeah, God forbid, that voting for a corrupted politician is more precious to you than your daughter's integrity.

Vote for Biden and be a proud mommy - help create a world in which it is ok for young women such as your daughter to be groped and harrased by the likes of Biden.

Sick to be honest.

:sideways:
 
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david starling

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Dirius said:
Yeah, God forbid, that voting for a corrupted politician is more precious to you than your daughter's integrity.

Vote for Biden and be a proud mommy - help create a world in which it is ok for young women such as your daughter to be groped and harrased by the likes of Biden.

Sick to be honest.

:sideways:
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We have to vote for one or the other, realistically speaking. Trump's a self-confessed groper. Biden denies being one, and might even be falsely accused.
 
Dirius

Dirius

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david starling said:
We have to vote for one or the other, realistically speaking. Trump's a self-confessed groper. Biden denies being one, and might even be falsely accused.
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Don't vote for Trump. Do what your concience dictates david.

But bare in mind that voting for Joe Biden is spitting in the face of every young woman who was ever harrased or molested by a man in power.

There is weak evidence that is making Tara Reade's allegation against Biden at least in part, credible. Not that this condems him.
 
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david starling

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Dirius said:
Don't vote for Trump. Do what your concience dictates david.

But bare in mind that voting for Joe Biden is spitting in the face of every young woman who was ever harrased or molested by a man in power.

There is weak evidence that is making Tara Reade's allegation against Biden at least in part, credible. Not that this condems him.
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A vote for Trump is a vote against a clean, healthy environment. That's been my #1 issue from the start. Biden won't be great regarding the environment, but Trump is terrible!
 
leomoon

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Thanks Darius, for your kind good will on the forum. As for your concern about my daughters, both are healthy, well adjusted,are involved in politics during ALL election seasons to one extent or another, and don't ask their parents who to vote for. If you want to know, they both voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. One use to post signs in Pennsylvania neighborhoods which was quite Republican before her signs. So, quite active in politics. They could probably could be your mother due to their ages and the eldest, likely even your grandmother. Whatever I gave them, they took gladly, and they are well adjusted politically savvy young women. But they aren't going to ask mom or dad in their late 40s who to vote for, that's rather ludicrous to suggest. They live their lives, I live mine.



NOW, I ask again; are you an American citizen since you are so very concerned about American politics, and if a citizen, WHO will you vote for this November?



Remember, you"may" be a dad someday yourself, and therefore a role model I'm sure. For?:unsure:
 
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david starling

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Trump's a terrible role model when it comes to integrity. He's even well-known for habitually cheating at golf! :sideways:

Would you want your child to emulate a cheater? Trump acknowledges cheating on his wife with a pornstar, while she was at home with their new-born child.
 
Dirius

Dirius

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leomoon said:
Thanks Darius, for your kind good will on the forum. As for your concern about my daughters, both are healthy, well adjusted,are involved in politics during ALL election seasons to one extent or another, and don't ask their parents who to vote for. If you want to know, they both voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. One use to post signs in Pennsylvania neighborhoods which was quite Republican before her signs. So, quite active in politics. They could probably could be your mother due to their ages and the eldest, likely even your grandmother. Whatever I gave them, they took gladly, and they are well adjusted politically savvy young women. But they aren't going to ask mom or dad in their late 40s who to vote for, that's rather ludicrous to suggest. They live their lives, I live mine.

NOW, I ask again; are you an American citizen since you are so very concerned about American politics, and if a citizen, WHO will you vote for this November?

Remember, you"may" be a dad someday yourself, and therefore a role model I'm sure. For?:unsure:
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I'm not concerned, I just find it ironic that you are excusing yourself about voting for a sexual predator, as if he somehow was a "good" or viable choice. But I guess you don't care about young women. Hopefully your daughters will be saved.

I'm not an american, I've made that clear many times. I don't have a stick in the mud, ergo I'm not biased in my opinion regarding each possible candidate. I can only provide an opinion based on what I see.
 
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Dirius

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david starling said:
Trump's a terrible role model when it comes to integrity. He's even well-known for habitually cheating at golf! :sideways:

Would you want your child to emulate a cheater? Trump acknowledges cheating on his wife with a pornstar, while she was at home with their new-born child.
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Of all the available incorrect behaviours from most politician, that one in particular is the least conerning one david. Like seriously.


:sideways:
 
Dirius

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passiflora said:
Dirius just likes that Trump enables the non-sequitur mode of debate.
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To be honest I think his policy has actually benefited his people. Whether they like to admit or not. And the opposing option, socialism, is something I've lived under for 17 years now. Most people think its pretty, but it isn't.

Most of the complaints about Trump are usually on irrelevant issues, no one cares about.
 
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david starling

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Dirius said:
To be honest I think his policy has actually benefited his people. Whether they like to admit or not. And the opposing option, socialism, is something I've lived under for 17 years now. Most people think its pretty, but it isn't.

Most of the complaints about Trump are usually on irrelevant issues, no one cares about.
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But, is he a good role model?
 
Dirius

Dirius

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david starling said:
So, you admit Trump's not a good role model?
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I don't think its a fair assumption. A good role model doesn't need to be perfect. Its ok if they are flawed. I don't think people can be perfect by any means.

I don't indulge in utopian thinking david. :cool:

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unrelated question is it "utopian thinking" or "utopian thought" the best way to write it?
 
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david starling

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Dirius said:
I don't think its a fair assumption. A good role model doesn't need to be perfect. Its ok if they are flawed. I don't think people can be perfect by any means.

I don't indulge in utopian thought david. :cool:
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You criticize Biden for not being perfect. At least you admit Trump isn't perfect either.

I, for one, admire you for that. Most Trump supporters in the U.S. think he walks on water.
 
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Dirius

Dirius

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david starling said:
You criticize Biden for not being perfect. At least you admit Trump isn't perfect either.
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I think Biden is beyond that.

I think there are too many negative and illegal activities which are linked to him. Corruption with Ukraine, harrasing women, etc. He is clearly an inept politician who has been in power for over 40 years and has done very little in return.

I said it many times, I think Bernie Sanders would have made a better candidate. I disagree with Bernie's policy, but on the very least he is more charismatic.

Sure you don't have to like Trump - don't vote for him.

But Biden? He is not the lesser of two evils at all.
 
Dirius

Dirius

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david starling said:
You criticize Biden for not being perfect. At least you admit Trump isn't perfect either.

I, for one, admire you for that. Most Trump supporters in the U.S. think he walks on water.
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They like him. They just do. He is charismatic. And he is doing what he promised. That is the key

Whether you like his policy or not, he kept every single promise to his voter base. Thats ten times more than what any other candidate has done for their voter base.

But I think most critics of Trump focus on the irrelevant parts. So he banged a pornstar ... so he said something demeaning about women ... etc.

Who gives an F about those things?
 
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