How to know if a relationship will last?

I know it’s complicated to know that but what could be some aspects that will prove that the relationship has potential for marriage/ something long term? As well what would be some placements that will say that the relationship is doomed or is just a karmic relationship? Any insights will be apreciated

I would suggest that is might be easier for you to put up the two natal charts of the people in question and then a third combined synastry chart than it is for someone to list all the possible contacts that might keep you together.

Also, even though there are contacts to keep you together, there may be stronger ones that interfere with that. The charts are the best way to see.

IleneK said:

I would suggest that is might be easier for you to put up the two natal charts of the people in question and then a third combined synastry chart than it is for someone to list all the possible contacts that might keep you together.

Also, even though there are contacts to keep you together, there may be stronger ones that interfere with that. The charts are the best way to see.

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Even then, all we know is what could theoretically happen. Astrology doesn't tell us what will happen. If people with the right kinds of contacts for a certain kind of relationship meet at a time when both are ready for that kind of relationship and willing to consider it with each other, then chances are it will happen.

But one or both of them might make a different choice. One or both of them might be already committed to someone else. One or both of them may feel unready for a relationship when they meet. Assuming that what you have in mind is a romantic relationship, one could have feelings for the other but be the wrong gender for the other's sexual orientation. Charts don't spell out any of those things.

If you're talking about a relationship that already exists, some of those factors are known: we know these people like each other, we know they have chemistry, we know they've chosen to be in a relationship with each other, at least for the time being. In that case, where astrology is useful is exploring the relationship as it is. Have problems arisen? Then we can explore that. Is there uncertainty about how mutual the commitment between them is? Then we can delve deeper into that. One may not have as easy a time committing as the other, or one may be responding to the commitment factor a different way from the other.

Yes, as we say, we can talk about aspects that might keep you together.

For me, I like to look at the synastry to see if there is any hard aspect between Saturn and the personal planets, because I read that these are very binding. I then look at whether important planets in one chart activate the angular houses in the other.

One thing I want to point out is that you might also want to look at transits. Natal charts, synastry charts, the composite are all static, however humans aren't static, they are always changing, and not to mention circumstances change all the time too. So, maybe normally one of them is not the type to think about marriage but perhaps in the transit an important planet is activating his/her descendant, or something, and that can tell us things that the more static charts can't.

wan said:

For me, I like to look at the synastry to see if there is any hard aspect between Saturn and the personal planets, because I read that these are very binding. I then look at whether important planets in one chart activate the angular houses in the other.

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Any Saturn involvement can be a commitment factor. It can also be a frustration factor. Or a factor in one party taking authority over the other, being inappropriately parental, stuff like that.

So it really depends on the big picture. It also depends on where people are at in their own personal growth. People can have great relationship potential according to their charts but not be mature enough, so to speak, to manifest it. Or people can have what looks like terrible relationship potential in their charts but be very ready to turn that dross into gold.

Aye Osa, and yes, Saturn really can be a frustration factor and in my case, it is. My Saturn is right on the descendant, so if someone has planets in my 7th, which normally is a very nice and potentially romantic thing, it will probably activate my saturn. Same with people who have planets in my 1st. And because I was born quite close to the equator, the cusps of my 4th and 10th are also square my descendant and therefore saturn very closely, so that means people with planets in either of those houses will likely square my Saturn, too. But these 4 houses are the most important houses and if people with these placements are afflicted by my saturn then I am really out of luck. My Saturn truly f*cks me up.

IleneK said:

I would suggest that is might be easier for you to put up the two natal charts of the people in question and then a third combined synastry chart than it is for someone to list all the possible contacts that might keep you together.

Also, even though there are contacts to keep you together, there may be stronger ones that interfere with that. The charts are the best way to see.

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Thank you for your response, here are composite as well as Synastry: https://ibb.co/xgjLHrD
https://ibb.co/L6D4hL6
https://ibb.co/y6sN4CK

Fulltimegogetter said:

Thank you for your response, here are composite as well as Synastry: https://ibb.co/xgjLHrD
https://ibb.co/L6D4hL6
https://ibb.co/y6sN4CK

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It appears that the birth day and time are approximately the same for both natal charts? A few hours apart. So that all the planets are conjunct in the synastry, and the composite is a mirror of the natals.
Can't really do much meaningful with that except just go back to the aspects in one or the other of the natals, which are essentially the same.