Okay let me end this pluto is an astrological planet and he do has influence big time
and for all who dont belive that pluto in an astrological planet should start beliving
Nothing to do with 'circles'But I already have, on this very thread, and you have responded to my post, we're not running in circles, OK?
which is incorrect becauseDon't forget Mars and Jupiter!
They all haven't fully cleared their orbits yet.
So humans labeling things again.
Bah. I'm calling this place it from now on!
There's no postable answer to thatJupiterasc i have a questions
why do you hate pluto that much because it is just too real ?
or it is because your too weak ?
and okay you know what you dont have to belive in pluto
but dont come here and try to convinse people who do cause you just look WEAK and DUMB
Read my answers
why you not answer my questions
so one more question
if scientists decide that jupiter is a dwarf planet
would you still call yourself jupiterasc ehhh ????.!
all those planets you mentioned are astronomical planets as well as astrological planets
okay it is an astronomical dwarf planet
but it's influence is just like the influence of jupiter sun moon mars neptune uranus ....
You have been misinformed
pluto is bigger then eris
Practice what you preachJa please have some knoweldge
and then come and talk
if you know nothing dont talk
That is misinformed and in any event, the discussion does not concern dwarf planet pluto's alleged 'enegy'maney astrologyers *agree* that pluto is an astrological planet
FEW astrologers disagree
and ALL the people feel pluto energy except you
"Visibility" is in the eye of the beholder. Armed with a telescope, the beholder can see the planet Pluto.
To astronomers, the Moon and Sun are not "planets". Traditional astrologers disagree.
To astronomers, Pluto isn't a "planet". Modern astrologers disagree.
On the contraryAccording to Traditional astrology, the Moon and Sun are "planets". Astronomers would certainly disagree!
So, Moderns aren't the only astrologers to ignore the astronomers regarding what qualifies as an "astrological planet".
To explain further, there are a few philosophical issues
that arise when using the outer planets.
Dirius is correct in noting that the fact
the outers carry no visible light
Astrology evolved alongside ancient optical theories
and these theories still permeate astrological discourse to this day.
Planets in aspect are said to "see" or "regard" one another
and their light is often considered a transmitter of their influence.
The word "planet" originally evolved from the Greek "planetes aster",
or "wandering star" and referred to the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn
whose motion could be detected against the backdrop of fixed stars
that are stable in their relative distance from one another, but
all move together as one large group.
WB just one example of your rejected 'same old same old' argumentsJA, repeating the same old rejected arguments doesn't make you more correct. It merely means you are mistaken in a greater number of posts.
Modern astrologers agreed with IAU designation when pluto was a planetOnce more, with feeling:
The 2006 IAU designation is irrelevant to traditional astrologers who don't use Pluto anyway. Before or after, it makes no difference.
The IAU designation is irrelevant to modern astrologers who found no change in Pluto's effectiveness before or after the IAU designation.
Modern astrologers agree with astronomy when it suits them. 'Really it's that simple'
Astronomy is not astrology. Really, it's that simple.
Very disingenuous. Count up all your posts on this thread and your Pluto cartoon thread.
Count up everyone else's posts on this thread and your Pluto cartoon thread. Who tops the lists-- by a country mile?
Is that all?Pluto is about suppressed facts that one doesn't like to face.
By all means continue to do soWe moderns like studying astrological Pluto. We use it. Deal With It.
How dwarf planet pluto allegedly 'operated in the past' is a matter of opinionAnd please, your history argument is one such chestnut.
You read history and biographies? We read history and biographies.
We can see how Pluto operated in the past, easily.
The same old arguments you yourself postTraditional astrologers developed the concept of the Great Year,
even though none of them would live a fraction of its 24,000 cycle.
This is why I think you're obsessive.
We've answered your same old arguments over and over again.
You won't listen to any argument that supports modern astrology.
Another baseless assumptionGiven how little you've studied it,
I guess all you can do to keep your beliefs about modern astrology is to repeat your same old, same old.
So you think that your arguments are the sole arguments for 'fledgling astrologers' to considerThe only reason I don't give up in disgust
is because I don't want a fledgling astrologer to read the kind of misinterpretations
some of the trads post about modern astrology and think that they're correct.
If you really believe in a "live and let live" astrology, I suggest you do that.