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Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-18-2013, 09:29 PM
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Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Marinka, I am thinking of the sorts of questions we see all the time. "Why am I 40 and still single?" Or "Here's the synastry with my BF: does this look like a good match?"

Note that these are...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-12-2013, 03:29 AM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Why would you say so? There is ample, ample evidence in astrology to the contrary. Shall I begin with Hellenistic astrologers (like Vettius Valens) and their genethliacal character delineations?
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Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 11:43 PM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Marinka, basically the chart will "out" in some way. But there are many ways in which that can happen, from a full and empowering expression, to some form of psychological projection or manifesting...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 11:35 PM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Marinka, I see no problem with "massive amounts of humility." It shocks me that anybody would. I am not saying that somehow, in a chart reading, astrologers turn themselves into servile sniveling...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 08:02 PM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Are we arguing semantics, Marinka? By "massive amounts of humility" I don't mean abject low self-esteem. Hardly. Should I have said "serious awareness of our own shortcomings"? But let's take the...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 06:29 PM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

There is some agreement here that a beginner is entitled to answer questions on an Internet forum (though as you all know, I draw the line at death prediction) but with massive amounts of humility.
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Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 12:42 AM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Poyi, who suggested that you never read charts for other people? Not me!

I hope my above examples, however, show some of the "people" skills that are helpful in addition to mastery of...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 12:37 AM
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Views: 20,433
Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Just a quick example from the McEvers book p. 110, by astrologer Gray Keen:

"A 29-year-old woman wanted to know if she could safely circumvent an astrologer's warning (given when she was 17) that...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 12:28 AM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

JA, relationship prediction is a subset of prediction more generally, no? Paul's post is certainly germaine to your OP.
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-11-2013, 12:27 AM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Thanks, Paul. Your entire post is noted.

Just one more point about what I did glean from your two long posts, above, is the aptness of the "Heinz" analogy for the OP. On one level, analogies...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-10-2013, 06:26 PM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Paul, here is what you posted on the morality of death prediction thread. I assume that it summarizes your attitudes about beginners engaging in relationship predictions.
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-10-2013, 07:22 AM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Avoiding attacks

JA, it is not correct to constrain astrology as being primarily about prediction. Much of it is, but we can think of many, many examples to the contrary. Many people's questions are not "when"...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-09-2013, 06:42 AM
Replies: 81
Views: 20,433
Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

Yes. However, my real love is natal chart interpretation using modern methods.

The trouble with the OP is like so many morality questions that psychologists used to use to use to "grade" people....
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-06-2013, 08:42 PM
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Views: 20,433
Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

As I've tried to explain above, I don't think the OP is completely apt in terms of what can transpire during an on-line consultation. I have given some realistic examples above, drawn from threads on...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-02-2013, 09:48 PM
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Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

I can't say that every cloud has a silver lining or paste a happy-smiley face on a horrible break-up (oh, like my divorce 20 years ago.) In not doing much predictive work and no horary, I have...
Forum: Predictive Astrology 10-02-2013, 06:25 AM
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Views: 20,433
Posted By waybread
Re: Relationships and Morality of Predicting Those In Natal As Well As Horary Astrolo

What do you mean by "predictive," JA?

In one sense I might tell someone that their current relationship doesn't look wonderful, but I wouldn't predict an ending date, and I don't do horary. I...
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