....I think the Neptune tipped Yod is one, if not the most, challenging of Yods. Maybe you'd care to explain what you think yours means? It seems quite intense since it involves your Sun and Jupiter as well as the IC.
No one I know is giving 2.3x-ish loose orb allowance for a 150 aspect so the Moon-Jup aspect is a loose tri-septile.....
I had very challenging relationships in my youth, particularly with my mother and father, which I believe led to the development of an 'addictive' personality disorder, and I started smoking at a very young age (10) and then smoking cannabis at 16. Escapism seems to have been a hallmark of my life, with music blurring the lines between a useful approach (I've always been very musical and creative, playing drums and percussion at an early age, learning guitars, producing electronic dance music, graphics, painting, drawing etc) and an escapist one, which led to another journey into the underworld of drugs, all night raves etc. I suppose the irritation element is that I wasn't able to harness the creative energies productively, sabotaging my own efforts, wasting a lot of energy being hedonistic, when I might have been better off working hard to realise my creative ambitions. I've since straightened out and am seriously beginning to think about pursuing painting and music as a realistic path to self realisation. Funny, saying this now seems to make more sense than ever before, and the fact that you've all mentioned that it's frustrating until it's harnessed properly has really hit home. Thanks for that, hope this serves as a look into the Yod in some way.
Krewster, in response to your question, I, like your brother, am not independently wealthy. I too am 'burning panniless in my fifties' as you so succinctly put it . The other response above may point to some degree as to why that is, but only partly. My strong Neptune nature has led to my always being very aware of a spiritual reality, even as a child, which led to a quite 'serious' demeanour underlying a deep soul-searching trait. Finance, career, mortgages, even the game of 'monopoly' always went over my head. I felt absolutely no affinity for those practical affairs, forfeiting any efforts in those directions for a largely 'fantastic' inner world populated by art, music, drama etc, sometimes feeling like illusions of grandeur. I became painfully conscious of my need for fame, recognition, and even the affiliated acquisition of wealth that might accompany such recognition and fame, and felt somehow embarrassed and 'guilty' for having such apparently shallow ambitions. I reacted by playing down my talents and, as I said, escaping through drugs etc. I've wondered at times whether avoiding the 'hard work', responsibilities and 'fear of rejection' has led to my not manning up and putting myself out there. I hope this gives you a little more insight and a possible pointer to the answer to your question. I would like to know what you conclude. Thanks for your interest and your sound questioning.On the Yod, my above question remains begging for an answer: is the 2 min-orbed Sun 60 Jup over-ridden by the 28 min orbed Sun 150 Nept...? (or are you at least independently wealthy or otherwise lucky despite the professed lack of talent harnassing towards a reality-direction).My younger bro has a Sun-apexed Yod with Jup and Pluto below and his adulthood rejection of cities, office-life etc, has him burning now in his penniless ‘50’s (despite great talent and IQ).As for your mentioned talent-oriented behavior/experiences, Mars/Uran quintile Moon/Nept is surely as energistically creative as anyone would want (not to mention Ven decile Jup).
....With a Neptune tipped Yod, a spiritual direction is a must and that's what you were trying to find when you were younger. From your earlier days of exploration, you know that there exists a higher state of being but the key is to be able to achieve it without the mind altering substances. According to Satyananda Yoga, Music is one of the highest forms of Bhakti.
I could regarding the workings of the spiritual worlds, while continuing to grow creatively as well. I've never been able to pursue the real nitty gritties of anthroposophy ie meditation designed to develop the latent organs of clairvoyance and 'channelling'
Yes Krewster, absolutely! I seem to have always 'fallen in' with the creative, counter-culture, 'arty' 'hippy' scene incredibly easily, to the point of almost knowing it was 'meant to be', because there would somehow always be people I'd meet and click with wherever I went - & begin meaningful relationships with - and I travelled extensively (within the UK) and met many, many people from all walks, so your assessment would be borne out I think. To back this up, the woman I met within a month of immigrating to the UK, who was much older than I, lived in a counter-culture community in the heart of a borough that was considered the 'creative melting-pot of London', who's son was the person I was introduced to for a cannabis supplier (and with who I became very friendly, also a musician) , maybe 'too much info' there, but those sorts of situations have peppered my entire life so far. See my new thread 'Karmic meeting, or just coincidence' if you're curious about the latest instalment of what I believe to be a similar thing, maybe you could help to clarify. Your assessments are very close to the mark and very enlightening.Hmmm, somewhat disturbing that your behavior/experiences do not evidence a 2 min tight Sun 60 Jup’s expected ability to counter-balance your Sun’s four or five other mostly minor and looser-orbed challenging aspects. Perhaps the Sun 60 Jup has been more about having endless socializing luck...(would you say)...? e.g., have you always been able to get into the cool group (define to taste) or...?
Regarding this element, I've always had a strong tendency to 'look back' and be very hard on myself, something I still have to deal with. I've always felt like I've been at odds with myself in this respect, and although I was made aware of the tendency to be 'my own worst enemy', thanks to my astrological 'studies', I've only in recent years begun to really try to address the issue with conscious thinking and being 'nice to myself' instead. So again, you're right on the money. Regarding your young daughter, I would keep a good eye on it, but with someone like yourself at the helm I'm sure she'll be just fine Thanks for your time Krewster, very insightful.About manning up (not now, but in the past a la embracing a boring but stable career type thing), it will be important to not yield too much to the Merc 90 Sat type thinking patterns (so easy for a Sat-by-hindsight to judge Nept’s non-supportive influence on a personal planet isn’t it).
are you interested in teaching a Steiner school at all?
There are lots of Steiner schools who would love a talented musician and artist and actor with an understanding of anthroposophy.
And as you don't 'teach' anthroposophy (Steiner always said not to teach it), you don't have to have excelled in anthroposophy to be a teacher - just have an understanding of it.
Or given your talents plus your knowledge of Anthroposophy - you could teach the up-coming teachers
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The interesting thing here is that you've had quite a few transits recently to the Yod. Saturn has been transiting the Apex and Uranus has been conjunct Jupiter. Furthermore, Jupiter has been conjunct your NN and Pluto is transiting House 5 asking you to transform the way you approach creativity among other House 5 topics. Maybe this has provided the impetus to seek further insight here. So I think your realization about where you need to move with your art is spot on. .....
I get the feeling that my affiliations with anthroposophy are very much 'exploratory' in this life, with the possibility of a more strongly felt association in future incarnations. I feel I may have a certain amount of 'karma to clear' before I'm in a position to really - and safely - dig in to what anthroposophy will become for the future of humankind. We'll see
Oooooo, I love hanging out with people “like you” (riding on the coat-tails of your ability to get any chance encounter kick-started). Nice to see how such a tight-orbed Sun 60 Jup can manifest.
It is me who wants to exploit your talent (just saying I enjoy hanging with friends who make friends with 3rd parties more easily than might I....