[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9th House. The law. Lawyers, in general. Philosophy. Higher education. Religion. Professors. College classes. Publication of one's writing. Publishers. Legal entities (such as corporations). Legalizing procedures (such as marriage ceremonies). Ritual. Long-distance travel. Standards & rules. Derived: Grandchildren, sister- or brother-in-law. [/FONT]
FleetingDasein said:Assign the ascendant ruler to the querent, and the ruler of the 9th house as the quesited, in this case, the grandson.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When the seeker asks a question about another person, you may find it necessary to skip around the chart to "derive" the house suitable to that person inquired about. For the most part, this skipping will depend on ther quesited's (i.e., the person/thing asked about) relationship to the querent. For instance, say you ask a question about your grandmother--your father's mother. If you take the 4th to rule the father, then the 10th from the 4 will rule the father's mother, or your grandmother, which places paternal grandmothers in the 1st house.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you ask a question about your grandparents, say, both your father's parents, then the correct house would be the 4th of the 4th, or the 7th. If the grandparents you're asking about are your maternal grandparents, then the correct house would be the 4th of the 10th.
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nieces and nephews, as your siblings'(3rd house) children (5th house), would reside in 5th house from the 3rd, or the 7th. You would find your nieces and nephews by marriage (i.e., your spouse's niece or nephew) by starting at the 7th. The 7th represents your spouse, the spouse's sibling would be in the 9th (3rd from the 7th), and the spouse's sibling's childres would be in the 5th from the 9th, or the 1st. [/FONT]
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RayAustin said:Astrologer,
Assign the ascendant to yourself, since you seem to know them. Since you asked "did 'her' grandson" .. assign the seventh to the grandmother; and then the fifth from her fifth should be her grandson. The 3rd from the seventh would be the grandmom's accusations, if she is accusing him.
Your own interepretation is needed unless you want the thread moved.
Ray
FleetingDasein said:Ascendant is in Virgo, Mercury would rule the querent.
9th house is in Taurus, Venus would rule the quesited. But I'm not so sure if it would be the 9th. Grandma asking a question about her grandson. Wouldn't the 5th from her 5th (10th) make more sense in this case?
If so then we'd be dealing with Mercury as the significator for both.
RayAustin said:We couldn't judge it that way, since we don't know "what" he did. We are doing a rumours chart, and judging what the grandmother is accusing him of, which is why she is relevant, imo.
Ray
Now that A4u provided more necessary information, I'd say to just judge her (a4u's) third and the angles, and make this a full "whether the rumors be true or false" chart.
Kaiousei no Senshi said:Well, I don't understand how sayin "Did he do it?" (which is how this question is phrased anyway in the thread title) is any different than "did her grandson do it", the only thing it's doing is making it more specific.
I was going to suggest a rumor chart as a compromise.
Right, but that's not how the thread is titled and they both work to ask the same question (which was my point), it's just one makes you turn the chart unnecessarily, but since we decided to do a rumor chart it really doesn't matter.Did her grandson do what he is being accused of? That is the question.
This is not the case.Christian Astrology said:Ill rumors hold true if the angles of the fourth and tenth house be fixed and the Moon received in them; I say, they will be in some sort verified...