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ocho 06-26-2019 12:14 PM

Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
My life in Montreal is terrible. I'm about to be 24 and never had a satisfying love life/experiences. I feel so restricted and hate here. I feel very paranoid and have alot of anxiety and unnecessary worry here. I'm living right on my Uranus MC Line in Montreal. My life here is unstable and miserable. I have alot of trouble getting money and I feel like women hate me or I don't have to do much to attract Hate in general.

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I really want to Relocate to a Venus or Jupiter line to change things and be happy!
I'm worried that my Venus itself is corrupt and I just want to know what you guys think about my relocated chart in Melbourne Australia, where my Venus DSC line passes right over. Can I atleast get some good Venus out of this despite all those aspects going on with the planet? Or am I better off going to a SUN or JUPITER line?
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JUPITERASC 06-26-2019 01:02 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 981223)

My life in Montreal is terrible.
I'm about to be 24 and never had a satisfying love life/experiences.
I feel so restricted and hate here.
I feel very paranoid and have alot of anxiety and unnecessary worry here.
I'm living right on my Uranus MC Line in Montreal.
My life here is unstable and miserable.
I have alot of trouble getting money
and I feel like women hate me
or I don't have to do much to attract Hate in general.

keep in mind that MC line is extremely time-sensitive :smile:
and therefore
if time of birth is out by only minutes
then your given MC line is not accurate
and
since all relocation charts
are based on NATAL CHART
then those relocation for MC are also unreliable

JUPITERASC 06-26-2019 01:07 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 981223)

I really want to Relocate to a Venus or Jupiter line
to change things and be happy!
I'm worried that my Venus itself is corrupt

and I just want to know what you guys think about my relocated chart
in Melbourne Australia, where my Venus DSC line passes right over.
Can I atleast get some good Venus out of this
despite all those aspects going on with the planet?
Or am I better off going to a SUN or JUPITER line?

relocating from Montreal to Australia
in pursuit of happiness based on Venus Line/Jupiter Line/sun lines
is an extreme step :smile:
based on an unrealistic expectation

JUPITERASC 06-26-2019 01:11 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Better to investigate the origins of your unhappiness
using practical means such as Mindfulness Meditation
there are usully FREE classes in most major towns and cities

keep in mind that
given you are contemplating such drastic action
it is vital for you to

analyse your natal chart AS A WHOLE :smile:

to avoid unnecessary regrets


ocho 06-26-2019 01:11 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
My time of birth is correct in my chart, I got it from my birth certificate. What made you think time of birth is out?
I'm not debating on staying or going, I hate it here and there's nothing anyone can tell me to stay here. I've made up my mind to leave, I just want to where is the best place given these charts I've posted. I want someone to give me an analysis on my Venus line considering the aspects to it thats all.

JUPITERASC 06-26-2019 01:18 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 981232)

My time of birth is correct in my chart,
I got it from my birth certificate. What made you think time of birth is out?

It's commonplace issue with any natal chart
because
members who work their Day job in hospitals
have said that
at the time of birth
neither the medical staff nor the mother are focusing on their watch
all focus by the medical team is on health, safety and wellbeing of both mother and newborn
and so
births are noted AFTER the event :smile:
may be at least fifteen minutes, perhaps even hours out
since you asked
I shall mention another issue
which is
the frequent inaccuracy of watches, clocks, timepieces in general
as well as HUMAN ERROR
i.e.
it is not unusual for members of staff to note the time incorrectly

JUPITERASC 06-26-2019 01:20 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 981232)

I'm not debating on staying or going, I hate it here

and there's nothing anyone can tell me to stay here.
I've made up my mind to leave, I just want to where is the best place
given these charts I've posted.
I want someone to give me an analysis on my Venus line
considering the aspects to it thats all.

In that case then the decision is already made :smile:
I wish you all the best for your relocation

greybeard 06-26-2019 03:55 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
The trouble with running away to join the circus is...you have to take yourself along with you.

ocho 06-26-2019 04:14 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Can anyone be more specific in answering my exact question?..

JUPITERASC 06-26-2019 04:17 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 981265)


The trouble with running away to join the circus is
...you have to take yourself along with you.

Exactly :smile:

ocho 06-26-2019 10:07 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Where should I go? Should I go to a SUN-IC line to internally reflect on something? I don't know what to do

ardentika 06-27-2019 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 981318)
Where should I go? Should I go to a SUN-IC line to internally reflect on something? I don't know what to do

Can you move to usa ?

JUPITERASC 06-27-2019 12:29 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 981318)


Where should I go?


Should I go to a SUN-IC line to internally reflect on something?


I don't know what to do


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ocho 06-27-2019 05:30 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
ok cool np

waybread 06-28-2019 05:38 AM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Try your Jupiter-DC line. It doesn't occupy a lot of territory in Canada, but it is well-aspected and in your 7th house of committed relationships.

If you are a Canadian-only citizen, you can normally spend time in other countries for academics or travel, but permanent residency is often much more restrictive.

ocho 06-28-2019 11:38 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passiflora (Post 981515)
You may want to post the answers received on your other thread here, as there were a number of caring comments which you should preserve and consider.

Putting Venus on your DSC maybe relieves the feeling of having Pluto there in your current location, but as mentioned previously there are significant intrapsychic stressors which it's not clear you've addressed: Sun-Moon square and Venus-Mars square are both themes that often originate in family dynamics.

Again, without further commentary from you on specifics regarding your internal work and experiences, digging through your chart isn't very palatable.

I understand what you mean but I'm pretty sure even with those stresses in my chart, being on a Venus Line even with stressful aspects, will always be better than living on a Pluto and Uranus line mixed together. Cant get worst than this....


Quote:

Originally Posted by waybread (Post 981633)
Try your Jupiter-DC line. It doesn't occupy a lot of territory in Canada, but it is well-aspected and in your 7th house of committed relationships.

If you are a Canadian-only citizen, you can normally spend time in other countries for academics or travel, but permanent residency is often much more restrictive.

I think thats the best Idea for now. Been there before and it was amazing, the Jupiter description felt so real and it is well aspected in my chart too. Having to leave there and go back was devastating. Only thing stopping me is money. I think My Jupiter DSC Line is the closest I can get to freedom from all of this and it is in Sagittarius too!

greybeard 06-29-2019 06:05 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
If you are and have been chronically unhappy...

It is unlikely that you will find happiness waiting for you on the beach at your Venus line.

Sadly, you can't leave yourself behind. And therein lies the rub.

According to the biblical story, we were cast out of Paradise and barred from going back by a flaming sword. In other words, we are not promised a rose garden. You are barely 25 years old; you have some growing up to do.

Life remains miserable and uncooperative for as long as we refuse to see that we are living a life based on unrealistic expectations.

I suggest consideration of

Bathhurst Inlet.

Most of your lines seem to converge in that area. You are sure to find happiness there. But watch out for that hungry polar bear sneaking up behind you... Oooh. Too late. And just when you found happiness, too.

Moondancing 06-29-2019 09:19 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Even though I agree you can't run from yourself to another place on earth, pick the right spot and it sure can make a bad situation much better. I was living in such a negative environment that moving opened a new world, new challenges and I had the energy to make a new life.

Although I have to say I was not very good at friendships where I was from and that didn't change when I moved. I moved so my Sun was conj my Asc. and my independent spirit was ok with the sacrifice.

Moon Dance

greybeard 06-29-2019 09:33 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Intelligent use of astrology is one thing. Frenzied superstition and externalization of what is fundamentally internal is quite another.

Chrysalis 06-29-2019 09:52 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Im currently getting itchy feet to move from my location too, my location is not bringing me any kind of luck whatsoever.

How do you do these kind of charts ?

greybeard 06-29-2019 11:10 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Folks use "astrocartography", which is a fancy program that draws lines for each planet that show where that planet (on the face of the earth) is conjunct an angle.

You can do it by hand for specified locations by using natal planetary positions placed in the locality house structure. Tedious. [Relocation chart]

This amounts to placing your inherent character (signs & planets) into different circumstances (houses signify "surrounding circumstances"). You can't change your inherent character, but you can change the field of circumstances within which that character must operate.

ocho 06-30-2019 01:17 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 981938)
If you are and have been chronically unhappy...

It is unlikely that you will find happiness waiting for you on the beach at your Venus line.

Sadly, you can't leave yourself behind. And therein lies the rub.

According to the biblical story, we were cast out of Paradise and barred from going back by a flaming sword. In other words, we are not promised a rose garden. You are barely 25 years old; you have some growing up to do.

Life remains miserable and uncooperative for as long as we refuse to see that we are living a life based on unrealistic expectations.

I suggest consideration of

Bathhurst Inlet.

Most of your lines seem to converge in that area. You are sure to find happiness there. But watch out for that hungry polar bear sneaking up behind you... Oooh. Too late. And just when you found happiness, too.

Hungry polar bears know not to sneak up on me

greybeard 06-30-2019 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocho (Post 982140)
Hungry polar bears know not to sneak up on me

Bathurst it is then. Tally ho!

waybread 07-01-2019 04:21 AM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Chrysalis, I would suggest you look at planets in your chart that are well-aspected, vs. "heavy" planets that are stressed. Trace the well-aspected planets on your map, and see where they lead. The maps are in the special charts menu in the Astrodienst free charts section.

If the basic maps aren't interactive (clickable) than try their travel maps. It's been a while since I've looked at them, but I believe you can click on a location of interest, and a little astro-analysis will pop up.

Alternatively, you could do a relocation chart for a place of interest, but it probably won't look much different from your natal chart unless you input a location a long ways away from your birth place.

You might also think about your natal charts' planets-in-signs and elements. The moon and 4th house are indicators of "home." With my moon in Leo, I love deserts, which Leo rules. A watery person would probably love to live near a large body of water. Someone with a 9th house focus might enjoy living overseas, or having a broad vista from her windows.

ocho 01-04-2020 03:18 PM

Re: Will I be happy on my Venus astrocartography line?
 
Another thing I noticed was people in Montreal always and still look at me as if I just did something very bad or as if I owe them money or did something to them in the past, yet I never met them before. It's Very annoying living somewhere where you have a tight Pluto-Dsc and Uranus-Midheaven slapping you and spitting in your face without you barely having to do anything. I constantly feel alot anger, paranoia and anxiety in this region. If I need to talk to someone in charge of something, anything, whether it be a bank teller, ordering food inside, asking someone working in a mall for help, its never a straight forward easy go response I get. It's always some unnecessary extra sarcastic rude comments no matter how polite or nice I try to be. I traveled to my Jupiter descendant line (Nova Scotia) and it was literally the complete opposite! As I travel west towards my Neptune line (Southern Ontario) and a feel alot more calm, relaxed & safe. People are also alot nicer and I felt more comfortable. I realized that even though Pluto is still in the 7th house in this relocated region, having it on a angle will amplify and make things disastrous being a malefic it is. This atrocarography stuff is something else! Hats off to this system!


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