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cancer female 11-24-2011 12:23 AM

karmic ties
I have been on and off in a five year tormented relationship. Could it be karmic ties or is it dependency on my side? He has been the only one I have felt physically attracted to through these years. He is a virgo stellium sun/mercury/pluto/uranus all in 4th house, virgo in venus conjuct his IC, gemini ascendant and a leo moon. I am a cancer sun square saturn (ouch), taurus moon in 12th house (ouch) and ascendant, leo venus. Check this out:

- His north node is exactly conjunct my ascendant
- Our sun/moon midpoints are exactly squared
- My moon is trine his venus. 1 deg orb
- My venus is conjunct his moon. 2 deg orb
- My nodal axis is conjunct his vertex axis. 2 deg orb

We first laid eyes on each other when:
- transiting Jupiter was conjunct his south node and of course my descendant and when transiting moon was conjunct my ascendant and his north node.
- Transiting north node was exactly conjunct my natal saturn.
- Transiting venus was exactly opposing my natal venus and his moon.
- Transiting sun exactly conjunct my natal saturn (9th house ruler).

The worst problem in our relationship in addition to his personality is his exwife which has her natal venus conjunct my ascendant and his north node.

Sounds like a soap opera doesn't it? We are not together now, but I miss him.

Karmic ties?

I do not know how to post the saved charts here. Thanks

molly91 11-24-2011 12:43 AM

Re: karmic ties
i have several books about that very issue and could look it up for you. i'd have to see the chart though.

cancer female 11-24-2011 12:56 AM

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Attached are our cancer and virgo sun charts. Thanks

molly91 11-24-2011 03:13 PM

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Your South Nodes are in the same sign, which means that your karma is very similiar. You both need to move away from the traits of Scorpio and be more like Taurus (the good parts anyway).

Your Neptune is conjunct his south node, which means that you may have been a spiritual advisor to him in a past life. With this placement, he will suck your energy and likely view you as deluded; he can't appreciate you. You will view him as negative.

His Vertex is conj your South Node. This means that it IS karmic. You've been together many lifetimes before. However, your job in this lifetime is to push each other forward, and then, perhaps move on with your lives separately. It is a destined relationship for growth (good or bad), however.

Your Venus is square his Neptune (which sits right on your 7th house line), this explains whyyou miss him. You are most projecting your fantasies onto him and they are not grounded in reality. Here is a good explanation of it from Cafe Astrology:

The square, quincunx, and opposition aspects of Venus and Neptune in synastry generally emphasize the vacillating and withdrawing theme of Venus-Neptune described above. Venus needs to be aware that if he or she falls in love with a romantic ideal instead of his or her real partner, Neptune will most likely retreat. Venus may go through periods of excessive trusting of the partner and swing to excessive fear that the partner cannot be trusted. The emotional rollercoaster can be unbearable if Venus rides on it for too long. Neptune must be extra careful not to promise more than he or she can deliver, in an attempt to make Venus feel better, remembering that "errors of omission" count as misleading. Neptune might have a hard time dealing with Venus directly, especially because it doesn't seem that Venus will listen to reason or even wants to see reality.

Personally, I wouldn't give him any more thought; missing somebody isn't an indication that you need to be with them (usually the opposite). Good luck, my friend!

cancer female 11-24-2011 11:31 PM

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thank you molly, I just needed confirmation. You are my mirror and my final push out of my neptune conjunct descendant. I guess now its time to move on.

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