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Dmarie11 03-28-2019 06:24 AM

Contact?
 
Learning (slowly lol), but your help would be so appreciated! Will my ex be contacting me? Guess Iíd like to brace myself either way :) Thanks so much!

https://imgur.com/a/4kAdXBq

Gemini Pyramid 03-28-2019 06:57 AM

Re: Contact?
 
It's possible with Sun in Aries,
not saying He Will,
but it's possible

martinbd 03-28-2019 10:02 AM

Re: Contact?
 
You are signified by the Jupiter and the Moon. He is signified by the Mercury. The Moon applies by sextile to the Mercury. So there will be a contact in between you and your ex. But since Moon is faster, it looks like, you will contact him. Mercury is also stationary. So he is pasive and indecisive. But it looks like he likes you. Mercury is in the domicile of the Jupiter.

Chrysalis 03-28-2019 03:02 PM

Re: Contact?
 
I'm not seeing no contact here.

Mercurys in fall, retrograde, stationary, and in a contrary to sect sign, so is pretty much in very bad shape. Moon is detriment with jupiter being in moons fall. So this moon/mercury sextile won't bring anything, especially as saturn is right there too, and saturn being the most malefic in this chart, which moon will then conjoin.

Why did you break up, how long has it been since you last spoke to him/seen him ?
As it could be fear related as to why there is no contact.

Aria Venue 03-28-2019 03:10 PM

Re: Contact?
 
most probably...moon tols mercury( l7) to saturn (radix 3rd...communication)
though his self esteem (l2 ) in his detriment and sun in his exaltation in mars domicile, form where venus in his detriment... he likes you.mercury in venus exaltation and jupiter's domicile.You are mainly interested on his turned L5, while your venus is exalted...venus also your L5 (fun, sex, love...etc)

* you are L1=jupiter+moon +venus (your female side)
he is L7=mercury +sun (his male side)

Dmarie11 03-28-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Pyramid (Post 960580)
It's possible with Sun in Aries,
not saying He Will,
but it's possible

Thank you for taking time to help!

Dmarie11 03-28-2019 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinbd (Post 960584)
You are signified by the Jupiter and the Moon. He is signified by the Mercury. The Moon applies by sextile to the Mercury. So there will be a contact in between you and your ex. But since Moon is faster, it looks like, you will contact him. Mercury is also stationary. So he is pasive and indecisive. But it looks like he likes you. Mercury is in the domicile of the Jupiter.


Thank you! He can often be indecisive and stubborn...

Dmarie11 03-28-2019 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 960619)
I'm not seeing no contact here.

Mercurys in fall, retrograde, stationary, and in a contrary to sect sign, so is pretty much in very bad shape. Moon is detriment with jupiter being in moons fall. So this moon/mercury sextile won't bring anything, especially as saturn is right there too, and saturn being the most malefic in this chart, which moon will then conjoin.

Why did you break up, how long has it been since you last spoke to him/seen him ?
As it could be fear related as to why there is no contact.

We were both going through a lot of work stress at the same time, with major decisions to make regarding our careers. When he gets stressed in one area of life, he sees his entire world as falling apart. Huge overthinker!!

We last spoke/saw one another four wks ago and he was still in the same frame of mind as our breakup that had taken place a month prior to that, so it wasnít good. I know from a mutual friend that his work stuff turned out better than we couldíve ever imagined and is now settled after accepting an incredible offer. Heís stubborn, but even if we donít reconcile, it would just be nice to be on better terms. The conflict is still really bothering me, so I canít help but wonder if heís feeling that same way or not?

Dmarie11 03-28-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria Venue (Post 960622)
most probably...moon tols mercury( l7) to saturn (radix 3rd...communication)
though his self esteem (l2 ) in his detriment and sun in his exaltation in mars domicile, form where venus in his detriment... he likes you.mercury in venus exaltation and jupiter's domicile.You are mainly interested on his turned L5, while your venus is exalted...venus also your L5 (fun, sex, love...etc)

* you are L1=jupiter+moon +venus (your female side)
he is L7=mercury +sun (his male side)


Thank you so much for taking time to help!

Dmarie11 03-28-2019 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria Venue (Post 960622)
most probably...moon tols mercury( l7) to saturn (radix 3rd...communication)
though his self esteem (l2 ) in his detriment and sun in his exaltation in mars domicile, form where venus in his detriment... he likes you.mercury in venus exaltation and jupiter's domicile.You are mainly interested on his turned L5, while your venus is exalted...venus also your L5 (fun, sex, love...etc)

* you are L1=jupiter+moon +venus (your female side)
he is L7=mercury +sun (his male side)

Gotta say Iím pretty surprised to see that part about 5th house... hahaha

Aria Venue 03-29-2019 11:52 AM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmarie11 (Post 960745)
Gotta say Iím pretty surprised to see that part about 5th house... hahaha

why are you surprised

l7 is a mercury in his detriment and fall in Jupiter's domicile, retrograde -stationary about to turn direct...previously combust by his sun (while his sun in pisces domicile)+sun now in aries domicile an exalted sun.

i just gave you some hint of how he was feeling before his sun entered his exaltation.So yes he still thinks of you... though now venus in sun's detriment in aries.his sun however receives also L1 jupiter form triplicity and venus from terms.

All in all L7 now has started recovering from his wounds, feeling his male side exalted and ready to become direct...yet from pisces domicile. He's offended from you, in a way, seeing venus in his sun's detriment, though as a person L7 mercury still in venus exaltation and L1's domicile.His male ego in other words is exalted.Also his sun in mars domicile (his turned l5{sex, fun...etc} and L10 {job...etc}), while located in l10 or radix L4(the end of the matter).This mars also in his detriment in venus domicile and moon's exaltation.However as we may see...his career turned L10 so aries/almuten sun...so recently he had a boost in his career

Moreover his turned l2 moon (besides his movable assets..also his self esteem) located in l1's house in saturn's domicile in her detriment from where l1 =jupiter in his fall.So his self esteem was offended and harmed in a way from l1 and your radix L2/L3 SATURN (Respectively l2=your powerful self esteem and movable assets...etc, and L3=your daily communication...etc), while moon in saturn's detriment.As you may also see...his self esteem in saturn's domicile exalts mars his turned L5 and L10...so his self esteem as a person is co-depending to this mars!!!as I've already explained you what this mars is!!!!

So although your initial question was "if your ex is going to contact you again"...i couldn't help it not to stress the point how you actually feel about him.So yes you as a person L1, woman as venus and your feelings in saturn's domicile your radix L2,l3 show that you are mainly interested to him for his turned L5 and if he'll communicate with you...although between your feelings moon...personality l1...and venus your female side....there are some contradictions as always...anyway keep in mind than jupiter is about to turn retrograde

tikana 03-29-2019 04:24 PM

Re: Contact?
 
not happening.. saturn is the middle

Dmarie11 03-31-2019 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 960619)
I'm not seeing no contact here.

Mercurys in fall, retrograde, stationary, and in a contrary to sect sign, so is pretty much in very bad shape. Moon is detriment with jupiter being in moons fall. So this moon/mercury sextile won't bring anything, especially as saturn is right there too, and saturn being the most malefic in this chart, which moon will then conjoin.

Why did you break up, how long has it been since you last spoke to him/seen him ?
As it could be fear related as to why there is no contact.

Reading through these interpretations again (Iím really new at this, so it takes me a while!) and wanted to make sure I understand your first comment - you are seeing contact or you are not seeing contact? Also, any additional insight after explanation in other reply above? Thank you so much!

Dmarie11 03-31-2019 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria Venue (Post 960843)
why are you surprised

l7 is a mercury in his detriment and fall in Jupiter's domicile, retrograde -stationary about to turn direct...previously combust by his sun (while his sun in pisces domicile)+sun now in aries domicile an exalted sun.

i just gave you some hint of how he was feeling before his sun entered his exaltation.So yes he still thinks of you... though now venus in sun's detriment in aries.his sun however receives also L1 jupiter form triplicity and venus from terms.

All in all L7 now has started recovering from his wounds, feeling his male side exalted and ready to become direct...yet from pisces domicile. He's offended from you, in a way, seeing venus in his sun's detriment, though as a person L7 mercury still in venus exaltation and L1's domicile.His male ego in other words is exalted.Also his sun in mars domicile (his turned l5{sex, fun...etc} and L10 {job...etc}), while located in l10 or radix L4(the end of the matter).This mars also in his detriment in venus domicile and moon's exaltation.However as we may see...his career turned L10 so aries/almuten sun...so recently he had a boost in his career

Moreover his turned l2 moon (besides his movable assets..also his self esteem) located in l1's house in saturn's domicile in her detriment from where l1 =jupiter in his fall.So his self esteem was offended and harmed in a way from l1 and your radix L2/L3 SATURN (Respectively l2=your powerful self esteem and movable assets...etc, and L3=your daily communication...etc), while moon in saturn's detriment.As you may also see...his self esteem in saturn's domicile exalts mars his turned L5 and L10...so his self esteem as a person is co-depending to this mars!!!as I've already explained you what this mars is!!!!

So although your initial question was "if your ex is going to contact you again"...i couldn't help it not to stress the point how you actually feel about him.So yes you as a person L1, woman as venus and your feelings in saturn's domicile your radix L2,l3 show that you are mainly interested to him for his turned L5 and if he'll communicate with you...although between your feelings moon...personality l1...and venus your female side....there are some contradictions as always...anyway keep in mind than jupiter is about to turn retrograde

Wow, you provided some really great learning material here! Been trying to wrap my head around each piece, because all of this is so helpful :) I guess I was surprised by the thought of me just being interested in a casual relationship, sex, etc. rather than the serious relationship we had, because Iíve always loved him and still do. After really believing for years that Iíd marry him one day, that casual situation would definitely be a big change lol. Is there anything indicating him and another person? I donít know enough to figure this out, but I couldnít help but wonder if thatís somehow showing up? Also, anything I should keep in mind when it comes to Jupiter going retrograde? Would it cause him to make contact, or would it be a time I should suck it up and reach out to him? Thank you so much!

Dmarie11 03-31-2019 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikana (Post 960876)
not happening.. saturn is the middle

Ohhh, so a block isnít only when Saturn is in 1st or 7th? Also blocks when itís between two sigs, regardless of house?

tikana 03-31-2019 07:31 AM

Re: Contact?
 
Look up interference

Dmarie11 04-01-2019 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikana (Post 961188)
Look up interference

Reading up on this now, so thank you! Any significance to interfering planet being placed in 2nd house?

Aria Venue 04-01-2019 12:40 PM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmarie11 (Post 961378)
Reading up on this now, so thank you! Any significance to interfering planet being placed in 2nd house?

saturn here besides your L2 is also your L3 communication....while his turned L3 is sun in a separating aspect with moon.Moon is in Saturn's detriment...so this is why tikana said that saturn is in the middle...however moon before she finds saturn will aspect mercury..but then again she finds saturn...while saturn doesn't receive mercury.Sometimes planets in the horary chart interfere with the process of coming together the relevant significators. There are several forms of such interference with names like refranation, evasion, abscission, prohibition, etc. Also sometimes intercepted sign indicates interference, especially if planets occupy the intercepted sign. The interference is coming from where the ruler or rulers of the intercepted sign are located. Interceptions do not prevent, they cause interference that may or may not need to be overcome.for example look your radix 3rd house..is ruled by saturn while we find inside it pisces/jupiter intercepted and mercury...while again jupiter in saturn's fall

Dmarie11 04-01-2019 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria Venue (Post 961424)
saturn here besides your L2 is also your L3 communication....while his turned L3 is sun in a separating aspect with moon.Moon is in Saturn's detriment...so this is why tikana said that saturn is in the middle...however moon before she finds saturn will aspect mercury..but then again she finds saturn...while saturn doesn't receive mercury.Sometimes planets in the horary chart interfere with the process of coming together the relevant significators. There are several forms of such interference with names like refranation, evasion, abscission, prohibition, etc. Also sometimes intercepted sign indicates interference, especially if planets occupy the intercepted sign. The interference is coming from where the ruler or rulers of the intercepted sign are located. Interceptions do not prevent, they cause interference that may or may not need to be overcome.for example look your radix 3rd house..is ruled by saturn while we find inside it pisces/jupiter intercepted and mercury...while again jupiter in saturn's fall

This really helps make sense of what Iíve been reading. Iíve obviously got a long ways to go, so I really appreciate this extra guidance!

JUPITERASC 04-01-2019 07:41 PM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikana (Post 961188)


Look up interference

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/prohibition.html

PROHIBITION :smile:
Where two planets are applying to aspect but
before the aspect perfects
another planet overtakes the first
and perfects an aspect with the second.


Lilly writes of prohibition (CA., p.110)
Prohibition is when two Planets that signify the effecting
or bringing to conclusion any thing demanded,
are applying to an Aspect
and before they can come to a true Aspect,
another Planet interposes either his body or aspect,
so that thereby the matter propounded is hindered and retarded; this is called Prohibition.


For example, Mars is in 7. degr. of Aries, and Saturn is in the 12.
Mars signifies the effecting my business when he comes to the body of Saturn,
who promises the conclusion, the Sun is at the same time in 6. degr. of Aries.
Now in regard that the Sun is swifter in motion then Mars,
he will overtake Mars, and come to Conjunction with Saturn
before Mars,
whereby whatever Mars or Saturn did formerly signify,
is now prohibited by the Sun his first impediting Mars and then Saturn,
before they can come to a true Conjunction.

This manner of prohibition is called a CONJUNCTIONAL or BODILY PROHIBITION;

and you must know
that the combustion of any Planet is the greatest misfortune that can be.


The second manner of Prohibition is by Aspect,
either Sextile, Square, Trine, Opposition,

viz.
when two Planets are going to Conjunction; as Mars in 7 degree. of Aries, Saturn in 15 of Aries;
let us admit the Sun in 5. degr. of Gemini;
he then being more swift then Mars in his diurnal motion,
doth quickly over-take and pass by the Sextile dexter of Mars
( and comes before Mars can come to Conjunction) to a Sextile dexter of Saturn:
This is called Prohibition by Aspect,
in the same nature judge if the Aspect be Square, Trine, Opposition.


REFRANATION
A type of prohibition - where a planet applies to the aspect of another,
but turns retrograde and starts to separate before the aspect perfects.

Lilly writes of refranation (CA., p.111)
There's another manner of Prohibition; by some more properly called Refranation;
as thus, Saturn in 12 degr. of Aries, Mars in 7 degr.
here Mars hastens to a Conjunction of Saturn,

but

before he comes to the tenth or eleventh degree of Aries
he becomes Retrograde,
and by that means refrains to come to a Conjunction of Saturn,
who still moves forward in the Sign,
nothing signifies by the former Conjunction will ever be effected.

JUPITERASC 04-01-2019 10:04 PM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 960619)
I'm not seeing no contact here.

Mercurys in fall, retrograde, stationary, and in a contrary to sect sign,

SIGNS cannot be contrary to sect
PLANETS however may be contrary to sect

with reference to chart being discussed
Sun, Jupiter and Saturn are not of the sect in favor
aka contrary to sect

in contrast
Venus, Moon and Mars are of the sect in favor

Mercurys sect is dependent on whether Mercury is an evening or a morning star :smile:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 960619)


so is pretty much in very bad shape. Moon is detriment with jupiter being in moons fall. So this moon/mercury sextile won't bring anything, especially as saturn is right there too, and saturn being the most malefic in this chart, which moon will then conjoin.

Why did you break up, how long has it been since you last spoke to him/seen him ?
As it could be fear related as to why there is no contact.


rafaella 04-02-2019 11:10 AM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmarie11 (Post 960579)
Learning (slowly lol), but your help would be so appreciated! Will my ex be contacting me? Guess I’d like to brace myself either way :) Thanks so much!

https://imgur.com/a/4kAdXBq

There is contact, Moon applied to Mercury, mutual aspect. Moon is angular but in detriment could be describing the heaviness you feel. It is not clear who will contact whom, but it most probable that you would be the one to reach out. Moon has slightly more strength in this. Mercury is just mute and weak.

I don't know why people are mentioning Saturn? Moon is in 8 degree, Mercury rx 16, Saturn at 19. No prohibition.

JUPITERASC 04-02-2019 11:21 AM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafaella (Post 961629)
There is contact, Moon applied to Mercury, mutual aspect. Moon is angular but in detriment could be describing the heaviness you feel. It is not clear who will contact whom, but it most probable that you would be the one to reach out. Moon has slightly more strength in this. Mercury is just mute and weak.

I don't know why people are mentioning Saturn?
Moon is in 8 degree, Mercury rx 16, Saturn at 19.
No prohibition.

but
tikana said :smile:
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikana (Post 960876)

not happening.. saturn is the middle

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikana (Post 961188)

Look up interference


Chrysalis 04-02-2019 11:40 AM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC (Post 961537)
SIGNS cannot be contrary to sect

Contrary, as in mercury being in the wrong sign it should be in, being occidental in a night chart. Mercury being occidental should be in a masculine sign not a feminine sign and should be oriental of the sun.
Quote:

PLANETS however may be contrary to sect
I know.
Quote:

with reference to chart being discussed
Sun, Jupiter and Saturn are not of the sect in favor
aka contrary to sect
I know.
Quote:

in contrast
Venus, Moon and Mars are of the sect in favor
I know this too.
Quote:

Mercurys sect is dependent on whether Mercury is an evening or a morning star :smile:
And i know this too.

JUPITERASC 04-02-2019 11:52 AM

Re: Contact?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 960619)
I'm not seeing no contact here.

Mercurys in fall, retrograde, stationary, and in a contrary to sect sign,



so is pretty much in very bad shape. Moon is detriment with jupiter being in moons fall. So this moon/mercury sextile won't bring anything, especially as saturn is right there too, and saturn being the most malefic in this chart, which moon will then conjoin.

Why did you break up, how long has it been since you last spoke to him/seen him ?
As it could be fear related as to why there is no contact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 961645)

Contrary, as in mercury being in the wrong sign it should be in,

thanks for the clarification
if you mean that Mercury is not in DOMICILE
and
that a Mercury in Pisces is in DETRIMENT
then keep in mind that
Mercury being in DETRIMENT
is a separate issue from mercury being contrary to sect
i.e.
SIGN has nothing to do with being contrary to SECT :smile:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 961645)

being occidental in a night chart. Mercury being occidental should be in a masculine sign

not a feminine sign and should be oriental of the sun.
I know.I know.I know this too.
And i know this too.



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