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JUPITERASC 07-11-2019 01:04 PM

SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS
 
The following table

clearly illustrates
below the column headed HOUSE
that

SATURN IS SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS :smile:

by the way

for beginners who do not know
HOUSE = DOMICILE
i.e.
House is aka Domicile



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JUPITERASC 10-03-2019 09:33 PM

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wilsontc 10-05-2019 12:37 PM

Traditional only
 
All,

Please use Traditional techniques and methods only on the Traditional Forum.

Back to Traditional,

Tim

JUPITERASC 01-08-2020 10:45 PM

Re: SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS
 
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...9&postcount=10
Quote:

Originally Posted by petosiris (Post 1019579)

.....................doesn't Saturn sometimes give great wealth and power to nativities, and doesn't he sometimes cause great afflictions? Yes, of course, but that has to do with his harmonious or disharmonious relationship with the planet/angle/lot through the different aspects and natures of the subjects. So combining essential and accidental dignity into the same concept does not prevent us from making these distinctions, while I would argue that too much emphasis on the essential dignity could prevent someone making this distinction in the particular cases - for example when it helps rank with trine to the Sun from Aquarius by day, but causes divorce with square to the Moon in a dual sign in a male nativity, Aquarius is not going to help the first and mitigate the latter, I argue that is going to increase and actualize the effects of both.

Powerful Saturn at the nativity does not mean that it will give only very good or very evil at all times (though it certainly can exceed in one direction), if you use the recasting of horoscopes at solar and lunar revolutions, planets change their powers, which allows for differentiation in the chronocratorship. You can't make this important differentiation if you only use primary directions, profections or what have you with the nativity though.


JUPITERASC 01-08-2020 11:14 PM

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JUPITERASC 01-09-2020 02:59 PM

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JUPITERASC 05-29-2020 05:17 PM

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Sharon Knight on Traditional Predictive Astrology :smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvMGpvkYNU8

JUPITERASC 07-19-2020 03:45 PM

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Opal 07-20-2020 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC (Post 1021675)
Of the seven metals, Saturn rules lead :smile:
which has a very dull surface
and makes a thick, heavy sound when struck.
Lead is also the heaviest, the most stable
and the most inert metal
the traditional metal of tombs.

Lead poisoning was originally referred to as 'Saturnism'
because the physical ailments of ingesting small quantities of lead include
fatigue, depression and melancholia.
Lead collects in bone tissue
and is more prevalent in the bones of old people than those of the young.

Nick Kollerstrom in his book ASTROCHEMISTRY
explores the link between Saturn, lead and Saturnism
reminding us that the effects of lead poisoning
are to 'slow down' the mental processes of the mind.
Saturn also rules all ordinary country stones that have no glitter and shine.
It is said to rule the dross of all metals and the dust, ash and rubbish of everything.
It does however, have some rulership over diamonds
the hardest mineral, derived from crystallised carbon.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html

Lead, and zinc are effective moss control elements. They protect what is below them by leaving a covering on top and killing any organism that tries to grow underneath it by leaching when it rains.🙂

Opal 07-23-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC (Post 1056711)
Traditionally
SATURN, SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS rules LEAD :smile:
Lead is a highly toxic metal and a very strong poison.
Lead poisoning is a serious and sometimes fatal condition.
It occurs when lead builds up in the body.
Lead is found in lead-based paints
including paint on the walls of old houses and toys.

.

While being toxic, it is very used in our society. Old water lines have lead underground on the way to your home. Lead is used in soldering. Lead is used for some roof flashing. Especially in high rain areas. Leaded goblets have a nicer tone when you drink a toast. I checked a set for tone a while back. They were a G.

JUPITERASC 07-23-2020 02:01 PM

Re: SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Opal (Post 1057169)

While being toxic, it is very used in our society.
Old water lines have lead underground on the way to your home.
Lead is used in soldering.
Lead is used for some roof flashing.
Especially in high rain areas.
Leaded goblets have a nicer tone when you drink a toast.
I checked a set for tone a while back.
They were a G.

US Centers for Disease Control & Prevention & World Health Organization

state that
a blood lead level of 10 μg/dL or above is a cause for concern
however, lead may impair development
and
have harmful health effects even at lower levels
and there is no known safe exposure level

Traditionally
SATURN - SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS :smile:
rules LEAD

.

JUPITERASC 07-24-2020 10:31 PM

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JUPITERASC 07-27-2020 01:15 PM

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SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF FIXED AQUARIUS


The Tetrabiblos presented some of
the earliest negative perceptions
of SATURN’s astrological characteristics :smile:

Ptolemy called Saturn malefic, deadly and the bringer of evil:

‘...IF IT HAPPEN THAT SATURN BE IN FIXED SIGNS

and
in quartile
or opposition
to the Sun,
and
contrary in condition,
he will produce death by suffocation
occasioned either by multitudes of people
or by hanging or strangulation…
if in Virgo or Pisces, or watery signs
and configurated with the Moon
he will operate death by means of water, by drowning and suffocation....’


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JUPITERASC 07-27-2020 04:09 PM

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TRADITIONAL RULERSHIP :smile:

The Beauty, Meaning
and Use of Essential Dignities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8DbrCxxEY


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JUPITERASC 07-27-2020 11:38 PM

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JUPITERASC 07-29-2020 07:25 PM

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the following traditional HELLENISTIC methodology
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...697#post920697
clearly highlights for interested readers
how SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
is associated with skin TONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by petosiris (Post 920697)

Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part II - Seven Stars

Saturn completes 2 sidereal cycles and 57 synodic cycles with 59 years.
It has retreating arcs of 7 degrees for 140 days.


Saturn.... .....makes those born under him dark-skinned....


Quote:

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC (Post 1005439)

A few tips when assessing
"....blackness/whiteness..." aka "....darkness/lightness..."
"...fairness/darker complexion..." of skin TONES :smile:


keep in mind that
it's not unusual

for children of the same race
to be fairer or darker complexioned than their siblings


So within the race of white/whitish people
some siblings are darker/lighter complexioned than others
and likewise
within the race of black/blackish people
some siblings are darker/lighter complexioned than others
and so for example
for rectification purposes


Focusing on height, weight, bone structure, eye colour
gives overall good results
Black people with Blue eyes and other ethnicities
Parts 1 and 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhW7rR6VDg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPBpCWm89Y


Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf



JUPITERASC 08-03-2020 08:08 AM

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JUPITERASC 08-03-2020 08:08 AM

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IleneK 08-05-2020 03:29 PM

Re: SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS
 
Hey, JA.
Thank you for this; very interesting and informative.
I wonder what your thoughts are, how you might reconcile Deborah Houlding's comments below about the significator of the mother/father with what you have written?

Is it perhaps that you are describing the 4th as partaking of the parents, and thus, mother and father?
Thank you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC (Post 1059491)
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THEMA MUNDI in Hellenistic astrology
illustrates positions of the seven visible classical planets
at the beginning of the universe
tsmall commented that
if you look at the Thema Mundi 4th house
Libra
is ruled by Venus
one of the traditional significations of the mother
4th house is "Everything that relates to the foundation and roots of our existence. Parents in general and fathers in particular; grandparents and ancestry. Paternity (inheritance from parents) as well as the psychological parental influence."
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h04.html

10th house is " The desire to achieve and give out to the world - whereas the lower midheaven indicates the roots of our existence from which we emerge, the midheaven indicates that which we manifest outwards into our community and the fruits of our labour. Ancient authors recognised its influence on many matters, including marriage and children. Traditionally it is the house of the mother."
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h10.html

also Libra is the exaltation of SATURN.
SATURN (the father) has natural affinity with 4th
and
is exalted by Venus
in the house that signifies "home/roots"
also gives us Saturn's affiliation with death
as the 4th represents death among other significations
.


JUPITERASC 08-06-2020 11:02 AM

Re: SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IleneK (Post 1059551)


Hey, JA.
Thank you for this; very interesting and informative.
I wonder what your thoughts are, how you might reconcile Deborah Houlding's comments

below about the significator of the mother/father with what you have written?
Is it perhaps that you are describing the 4th

as partaking of the parents, and thus, mother and father?
Thank you.
Quote:

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC (Post 1059491)
THEMA MUNDI in Hellenistic astrology
illustrates positions of the seven visible classical planets
at the beginning of the universe
tsmall commented that
if you look at the Thema Mundi 4th house
Libra
is ruled by Venus
one of the traditional significations of the mother


4th house is "Everything that relates to the foundation and roots of our existence. Parents in general and fathers in particular; grandparents and ancestry. Paternity (inheritance from parents) as well as the psychological parental influence."
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h04.html

10th house is " The desire to achieve and give out to the world - whereas the lower midheaven indicates the roots of our existence from which we emerge, the midheaven indicates that which we manifest outwards into our community and the fruits of our labour. Ancient authors recognised its influence on many matters, including marriage and children. Traditionally it is the house of the mother."
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h10.html




also Libra is the exaltation of SATURN.
SATURN (the father) has natural affinity with 4th
and
is exalted by Venus
in the house that signifies "home/roots"
also gives us Saturn's affiliation with death
as the 4th represents death among other significations

Thema Mundi literally a teaching tool for astrologers.
as an illustration of reasons for the domicile rulers
the exaltations, the planetary joys
the nature of the aspects, sect

Douglas Noblehorse article extract
....The Thema Mundi is a Hellenistic Era Natural Wheel
that illustrates fundamental astrological principles.
In addition, it reveals the inner geometrical elegance
that gives these fundamentals their meaning and definition...."


House significations have morphed over the millennia IleneK :smile:
Those comments are relative to HELLENISTIC astrological methology
which predates Deborah Houldings astrological rationale

JUPITERASC 08-07-2020 12:24 PM

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JUPITERASC 08-07-2020 02:16 PM

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JUPITERASC 08-07-2020 02:25 PM

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JUPITERASC 08-12-2020 05:12 PM

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sinhtheslumberingdragon 08-14-2020 05:52 PM

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What would be the meaning of MC in Aquarius and having Saturn directly on top of the asc? (Ruler of 10th in 1st)


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