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ardentika 06-16-2019 10:51 AM

Marriage promise /denial in a chart
 
This is a phenomenon I've noticed only in vedic astrology and it just always made me curious. There are so many vedic ways of reading a chart and yet I don't understand how people can be so fatalistic in their predictions . Obviously I follow more Western astrology, but I would be very curious to hear thoughts and opinions from vedic practitioners on this forum. :)

RishiRahul 06-17-2019 03:30 PM

Re: Marriage promise /denial in a chart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ardentika (Post 978953)
This is a phenomenon I've noticed only in vedic astrology and it just always made me curious. There are so many vedic ways of reading a chart and yet I don't understand how people can be so fatalistic in their predictions . Obviously I follow more Western astrology, but I would be very curious to hear thoughts and opinions from vedic practitioners on this forum. :)


Its the focus and priority followed while the western astrology & vedic developed and grew.

Western astrology=psychology and nature based and less determininistic
vedic astrology= more soul oriented & deterministic.

In short, approximately,

RishiRahul

ardentika 06-17-2019 08:22 PM

Re: Marriage promise /denial in a chart
 
Isn't psychology the conscious awareness of the soul? Psyche = soul.

greybeard 06-18-2019 12:58 AM

Re: Marriage promise /denial in a chart
 
The old-time western astrologers referred to "this world" as the sub-lunar world.

Psychology refers to the study of the human mind. Most of the mind seems to be unconscious.

I believe it was Heraclitus who first said, "Character is destiny". So psychological astrology seeks to understand character, which is the same as the destiny.

ardentika 06-18-2019 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 979348)
The old-time western astrologers referred to "this world" as the sub-lunar world.

Psychology refers to the study of the human mind. Most of the mind seems to be unconscious.

I believe it was Heraclitus who first said, "Character is destiny". So psychological astrology seeks to understand character, which is the same as the destiny.

Yes that makes sense. However ,the old schools determisn doesn't much allow for the character to unfold and be understood.

I read a case of Indian woman who was 35 and still not married and had gone to many astrologers,did many rituals and what not . Her chart was not showing any delays. But marriage hadn't taken place yet .
She went to a vedic astrologer that wasn't much practicing determinism, and from a quick chat with her and study of her chart, he simply realised she was too influenced by her brother and family, following their demands for a husband. It was nothing more than that. After this explanation from the astrologer, some time after she got got happily married .

My point is, sometimes what looked as a denial or delay is merely a lesson to be learned.

It's hard for me to believe people would want to get married and denied. I personally don't believe in Gods or the fact that planets rule us against our own will, or that our soul would deny us something. Yes, our soul will want to teach us a lesson and usually love is the hardest lesson to learn because it will strip us from all self restrictions and judgements we might have, and perhaps that's why it's denied to some people because they cannot pass those challenges?

Just thinking outloud :)


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