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EJ53 06-02-2008 07:25 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by blueheron
Decode the anger, and find the sorrow behind it. Then you can cry it off.

Hi Blueheron,

Again, this is excellent advice for releasing the emotions.

But should we (unemotionally, objectively and constructively) express our anger to those who (unintentionally) caused it or not?

EJ :)

blueheron 06-02-2008 08:55 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by EJ53
Hi Blueheron,

Again, this is excellent advice for releasing the emotions.

But should we (unemotionally, objectively and constructively) express our anger to those who (unintentionally) caused it or not?

EJ :)

I don't know. I try to not do this because I think it's rather like pouring gasoline on a fire. If I can get my anger decoded, there's some hurt festering deep within it. I've found that I can handle the pain of grieving much better than the pain of rage (but then my mars is in Libra.)

However, sometimes there doesn't seem to be any other option but to roar.

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EJ53 06-03-2008 06:37 AM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by blueheron
I don't know. I try to not do this because I think it's rather like pouring gasoline on a fire. If I can get my anger decoded, there's some hurt festering deep within it. I've found that I can handle the pain of grieving much better than the pain of rage (but then my mars is in Libra.)

However, sometimes there doesn't seem to be any other option but to roar.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...6c017259-1.jpg

Good/enlightening answer Blueheron - and superbly expressed. For me, it evokes the image of the lion roaring without malice; to avoid being aggressive and to inform others that they may have a problem - as I believe we should aim to do when/by expressing our anger.

Thanks:sunny:

starlink 06-03-2008 10:01 AM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
Hi everyone, I am late coming to this thread, was one week totally occupied with family matters:
I like what Liz Green has written on the topic Chiron
Quote:

In Anguish the centaur seeks to pull the arrow from his thigh. But all his instinctive skill and knowledge cannot take away the pain he suffers, nor heal the wound of it's corrosive poison. Yet despite the darkness which surrounds him, the light of the Sun illuminating with merciless clarity that implacable unfairness of life which constitutes the true nature of his hurt - can draw forth wisdom and compassion to render bearable that which cannot be changed. ~ Liz Greene.


This is exactly how I see it as well. I dont think we can ever heal our wounds. Easy or difficult aspects to Chiron might show how easy or how difficult it is for us to help others with the same problems or how much effort (squares, conjunctions,) we are putting into "healing" others with similar wounds. Trines could show less effort put into these things. I dont know, just guessing, but really healing yourself, I dont think so. We can learn to live with it, accept it, but never get rid of it.

In my experience, whereever Chiron is found in the chart, we find the most sensitive and difficult area of our life. In the 9th, like Julie's Chiron, I have had seen several times a great disappointment in oneself, even shame, to not having been able to get a degree (university) in some subject, and especially the first time the person failed, it puts a stamp on his or her self-esteem. This "failure" goes like a red tape through their lives and influences lots of decisions and often the person decides to really start developing that area to compensate for the "wound", like doing all sorts of studies where he/she does succeed and indeed often they then also want to teach others what they have learned.
Probably the "wound" feels like that because of the reaction that person got from others at the time and which made for such a negative impression or a feeling of shame.

Chiron in the 3rd might show a lack of lower education or "only" having a basic school education which for some seems to be too little whilst for others it is OK.

In talking to clients I think we just have to make a suggestion, we have to ask them and see what the answer is. It could also be (in the 9th) a feeling of not beeing all-round, not having enough general knowledge or cultural knowledge, whatever, or it could have to do with religion (which is condemmed by others) for instance.

Cheers, Starlink

EJ53 06-03-2008 11:01 AM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by starlink
I am late coming to this thread.....

Hi Starlink,

I was wondering why you'd not commented on this thread - but now that you have, it was worth the wait.

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....really healing yourself, I dont think so. We can learn to live with it, accept it, but never get rid of it...........(it's) the most sensitive and difficult area of our life.......goes like a red tape through (the life) and influences lots of decisions and often the person decides to really start developing that area to compensate for the "wound" ......
I agree completely with this. For me, the wound is so much a part of "who I now am" that I'd choose to live with it rather than have it healed and risk the possibility of becoming a "different person" that I might not even like.

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In talking to clients I think we just have to make a suggestion, we have to ask them and see what the answer is.
This might prove to be the most important chiron lesson for astrologers. Maybe it's all we ever should do/have done anyway.

EJ:)

Julie 06-03-2008 12:35 PM

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Thank you Ej and Starlink on your interpretations of my Chiron in 9th, I think you are both right (I won't go into details it's too painful :p ) I do genuinely think where Chiron is placed is a painful place to be, I think it is too hard for me to really analyse what it means. I do think I could have done more with my life, maybe intellectually but my confidence has always been very low. I also do try to compensate for it and will study a lot on different subjects, my bookshelf is getting crammed. Disappointments and bitterness are in the 9th house and my self worth probably does feel wounded.

Thank you both, I am a bit late getting back to the thread as I have been busy, it doesn't mean I haven't read the interpretations. I always appreciate it ;) .

autumnleaf 06-03-2008 02:10 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
What a great thread on Chiron! Many thanks to you all for showing there's more than one way to look at our personal placements and aspects. Especially where Chiron is concerned since we all have wounds to heal.

starlink 06-03-2008 04:43 PM

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I decided to also have a look at the midpoints of Chiron to other planets, especially Sun, Moon, Pluto,Mars (both Asc. rulers) and Venus (Sun ruler).

Natally I have Chiron in the 12th house (probably quite similar to Chiron in Pisces), in Scorpio at 4, so that pain is really deeply hidden and the three aspects it makes are a square to Saturn (yes, being ignored is a possibility. In my case I think some hurt done by the father as well). Saturn also is ruler of my 3rd. , An inconjunct to the North Node at 2 Gemini in 7th and an opposition to Mercury in the 6th.
I have , through own experience) noticed that indeed the 3rd house, elementary school experiences, have been very painful for me. So Saturn does not only show lessons, limitations and difficulties to overcome, but the house it rules becomes very important in the Chiron experiences. I had a very difficult time in school, pestered by the other children and yes, ignored as well, AND also a female (Indonesian)teacher who always made fun of me in front of the whole classroom. I will never forget that.

Mercury rules my 11th, friends. Chiron's opposition shows few friends out of fear to be hurt I guess. I am and always have been very self reliant because of that and yes, lost faith in (the goodness?) of others (inconjunct NN in 7) and the 8th, life and death situations, transformation and facing crisis and support from others. Especially this last one. I never ask. I rather do everything alone than ask for help. Chiron experiences helped (what am I saying? forced me to transform myself.

Still, there is a lot of 12th house stuff I have not yet been able to un-dig really. I know it is there, but have no idea how to get at it, unless I let myself being hypnotised and I am afraid of that to be true. I really am afraid what would come up (square to Saturn again) and rather not know.

Back to the midpoints. One immediately caught my eye, the Chiron //Sun falls at 9 Leo in my chart and what is going to happen in August on 9 Leo? Yessurree, the total Solar Eclipse!!! I will keep a good eye on this one and will let you guys know what life throws at me then (IF it does of course).

Would midpoints between Chiron and other planets be of interest you think?

Must run, cheers, Starlink

EJ53 06-03-2008 05:45 PM

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Julie/Autumnleaf/All

I'd also like to thank everyone who has posted on this thread, which enabled me to work through what (I hope) might be the final stages of confronting/learning to live with my own Chiron wound.

Having done so, I agree with Jeremy that the wound might not be confrontable (or even apparent) before the first Saturn Return - which may explain why the input here seems to be from those who have. Certainly, my conscious confrontation did not begin until February 2008 (shortly after joining this forum) - and my astrological awareness of Chiron only began some 3 months earlier, around the time of my 59th birthday. So, I shall not be pointing fingers at anyone under 60 who chooses not to confront this planet - aptly described by Tsquare as a "little bugger".

However, for those who decide to do so in the future, I can now add the following about how the Chiron cycle appears to have worked in my life :-

1. Born with Chiron in Scorpio/3rd - "deep-seated scorpio fear of being manipulated, affecting how I communicate (3rd house).

2. First Chiron square at age 12 - death of grandmother who (with chiron hindsight) was the only "figure of authority" that never attempted to manipulate me. Also, first term in Seconday Education - when (with chiron hindsight) the main objective was to make me conform (by manipulation).

3. Chiron opposition at 35 - A time of considerable pressure by "my society" to make me conform (by manipulation), referred to elsewhere on this thread.

4. Second Chiron square at 45 - Throughout the six months prior to her death through cancer, I became aware for the first time of how my mother was manipulating me (and had always done so).

5. Chiron Return at 50 - although I did not realise why until now, this was when I began to reflect upon how my resistance to "being manipulated" by others had affected my life. (Note how that made me feel I'd displayed courage by resisting - rather than fear of something that might not actually have been happening.)

6. Currently at 59 and six months - Chiron has been setting off a tight Pluto/Mercury square in my chart. (With Chiron hindsight), that square explains the pride I have always had in being mentally strong enough to resist manipulation by others. And that pride has been the source of the "self-sabotage" to which Nexus7 refers in this thread.

Finally, I hope this helps others to confront their own Chiron wound despite the pain of doing so - because, I can confirm from experience that it is probably the underlying/hidden cause of the problems that we are consciously aware of. As Jeremy says, the Chiron message is "heal or become ill" - but it's also reminding us of the law of "cause and effect".

EJ:cheers:

EJ53 06-03-2008 07:03 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by Starlink
Would midpoints between Chiron and other planets be of interest you think?

Yes - and I'm gonna ask the Mods to post you as AWOL next time you go "missing" from this forum.:D

EJ:)

starlink 06-03-2008 07:20 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
Oh great EJ53!, I mean, looking at all those important Chiron hits. I will have a look at mine also and let you know (if I remember, because I seem to be good at covering up bad memories).

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I'm gonna ask the Mods to post you as AWOL next time you go "missing" from this forum.:D
Oh, that is sooo considerate of you:)! I will announce all my vacations to avoid panic stations, ha ha!!!

Ciao! Star.

smilingsteph 06-03-2008 09:53 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
Chiron's lessons:
to teach
to unlock
to find what is essential
to reconcile opposites (shaman)
to heal holistically
They say they are similar to Saturns lessons, if so, how? Any input?
Can we apply the same understanding to Chiron as Saturn?
I think I am getting the two mixed up as one of the same...

Nexus7 06-03-2008 11:07 PM

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Having just had a Chiron return after transit Chiron conjunct Moon after Neptune made similar transits, it certainly does seem to me that Chiron is not Neptune. The Neptune transit could be cathartic, inspiring (though not all Neptune transits are not like that, they can also seem to engender a sense of loss and disappointment in ways that felt pretty pointless at the time with other transits), but the Chiron transits just seemed painful without anything cathartic going on whatsoever. And if there is anythng to this wounding idea, it, for me at least, still seems to me to be linked with all kinds of group politics, the wounding happening where the hidden dynamics are least understood, that is all. In that respect, 3rd-House placements for me at least, do make sense: school. Still, I've no doubt lots of people have woundings here, apparently most people, when asked to describe a school memory, go on to describe something unpleasant, even traumatic. In other words, you don't need to have any Chiron placement in the 3rd to necessary be totally unwounded by school expereinces at a tender age.

But then again, Rob Hand declares that 'school is Saturnine.' So there is one possible Saturn comparison.

EJ53 06-04-2008 11:13 AM

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Smilingsteph

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Originally Posted by smilingsteph
.....Can we apply the same understanding to Chiron as Saturn?...

Based solely upon my own experience of Chiron, I'd speculate that :-

Saturn encourages us to "know what we need to know"
Chiron encourages us to accept that "we know what we need to know"

For example, It takes me a long time to interpret and synthesise the individual components in a chart (Saturn) - yet I can "see" the result in minutes by looking at the chart (Uranus). However, having not yet "accepted" my ability to do the latter (Chiron) - I still confirm "what I know" by interpreting and synthesising the individual components. So, Chiron is the bridge between my grounded saturn knowledge of astrology and the uranus knowledge that comes from who knows where.

Nexus7

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Originally Posted by Nexus7
And if there is anythng to this wounding idea, it, for me at least, still seems to me to be linked with all kinds of group politics, the wounding happening where the hidden dynamics are least understood, that is all.

This makes sense to me, as the wound does always seem to the individual to have been inflicted by others. And the hidden dynamics might be stated as :-

Psychological wounds come not from what happens to us, but from how the event(s) made us feel at the time.

EJ:)

starlink 06-04-2008 11:14 AM

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In that respect, 3rd-House placements for me at least, do make sense:
school. Still, I've no doubt lots of people have woundings here, apparently most people, when asked to describe a school memory, go on to describe something unpleasant, even traumatic. In other words, you don't need to have any Chiron placement in the 3rd to necessary be totally unwounded by school expereinces at a tender age
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Hi Nexus, yes, you are right of course. School is never really a party!
I am talking about more extreme happenings. In my case it was really very abusive and not the normal bullying which always happens in school.
The fact that I can remember each instant says it all. I dont remember other things at that time so well.

EJ, I have now a case with a Chiron in the 8th in Pisces, conjunct Saturn (imagine) and opposed to a Pluto/Uranus conjunction in the 2nd. And a Sun square Mars. Sun rules Ascendant, in the 5th in Capricorn.Chart of a woman. Transiting Uranus is exactly conjunct her Chiron now! OOPS!!
Trans. Saturn cnj. her Ascendant .

I find 8th house positions always hard to explain to the client, I can feel it but have difficulty putting it into words that they understand and more important, willing to accept.

In my opinion this is a big time father issue, feeling a great loss of support from others as well (husband, financial). He has the title, she the money.
Uranus rules the 7th house.

Hope all goes well, I see her at 14.30 today. Also have to do her son's chart, so it is going to be a heavy session. transiting Moon will be going over my Uranus in Gemini, quite appropriate and entering my 8th house .

Cheers, Star.

Jeremy 06-04-2008 11:33 AM

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Star, for what it is worth ;) my brother-in-law has the exact same configuration (sa/ch opp. ur/pl) so I am very familiar with it. His father (and my wife's father too of course) committed suicide when he was 16. His SA NN was square radix Sa/Ch at this time, so what can you say of that? Destiny?

There is no question that the wound and the father here are the same and they provoke some very uncomfortable control issues later on in life, with the 2nd/8th axis it is all about possession, about holding on vs. letting go, about gluttony vs. starvation, about more is more vs. less is more and about Sparta! Haha, I love the 2nd/8th axis, it rules my life :) :(

I can let you have an interp I wrote on this setup if you are at all interested. Only trying to help of course, not that you really need though :)

J

EJ53 06-04-2008 11:44 AM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by Starlink
EJ, I have now a case with a Chiron in the 8th in Pisces, conjunct Saturn (imagine) and opposed to a Pluto/Uranus conjunction in the 2nd. And a Sun square Mars. Sun rules Ascendant, in the 5th in Capricorn.Chart of a woman. Transiting Uranus is exactly conjunct her Chiron now! OOPS!!
Trans. Saturn cnj. her Ascendant.

Hi Starlink,

This sounds very much like Flea's chart to me. So, looking again at her comments/responses to them here might be helpful to you.

Basically though, I'd opt for childhood problems with your client's father making her feel uncomfortable about being different/her individuality (pluto/uranus). But, if she's got over that, she might now be a never-ending source of original ideas - like Flea.

Edit - with these planets/signs involved, maybe the 2/8 axis is purely about insecurity - in everything!

EJ:)

flea 06-04-2008 12:52 PM

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Ahh thankyou EJ, Big energies for sure but well,
Starlink, with sun squaring that little combo I had fun and games when pluto transited my sun.

I feel it more with my inner father construct, or my understanding of masculinity rather than all about the father I have in this life. Relating to men is not the easiest thing for me, I can relate as friends, but have relationship, mmmmm. Think there is a lot of past life urghhhh. It is about bringing into balance my female and male sides. And allowing my male side to be strong enough to shut up for a while so my female side can breathe and come to life in fullness.

Connecting to my feeling side, my cancer moon that had been shut up for eons that really brought me back to loving life again.

I wonder if chiron's wound is the one of being mortal, all the pain we feel just to experience mortality. Making friends with life and being in the moment, but the pain and shame of the mortal existence, how do you heal that???

Loving the thread, giving me so much to think about. And yes EJ I relate a lot to Chiron, (and Neptune, lots of contacts) and also my NN is tightly conjunct my mum's chiron and widely conjunct my Dad's, soooooo. Cant esacpe the process of healing and parents. Sometimes I think I am a medium through which they heal?? I have a lot of progressed planets in aquarius at mo, 5 I think, and with neptune and chiron hovering over my MC for quite a while, I am sensing transformations.


Love Light Flea

starlink 06-04-2008 01:01 PM

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Hi friends, well, just 10 minutes before I leave, thanks a million for your comments!! Yes Flea, this lady is indeed a very tough cooky, told me that her husband is better with the kids than she is, businesslike, but truly kind as well and we got along well the 1st time I did one of her other sons. After that she "dared" to let me do her own chart:)

Oh my EJ, suicide, mmmm.... I wonder what happened with her. Maybe she will tell me, or just leave it at: Yes, that was difficult or something like that.
I am interested in that interpretation. You can email it to me or PM it. Thanks in advance. Well, must run now! Wish me luck!
Cheers, Star.

EJ53 06-04-2008 03:56 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
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Originally Posted by starlink
Oh my EJ, suicide, mmmm.... I wonder what happened with her. Maybe she will tell me, or just leave it at: Yes, that was difficult or something like that.
I am interested in that interpretation. You can email it to me or PM it. Thanks in advance.

Jeremy

I note Starlink is referring to you here - but, I'd also be interested in that interpretation. Any chance of a copy?

EJ:cheers:

Nexus7 06-04-2008 08:52 PM

Re: Ways to heal Chiron wounds
 
'This makes sense to me, as the wound does always seem to the individual to have been inflicted by others. And the hidden dynamics might be stated as :-

Psychological wounds come not from what happens to us, but from how the event(s) made us feel at the time.'

I don't doubt that our own interpretation of events does matter, but I cannot agree that this is just a one-way process.

Suppose you are left-handed. Well, if you are lucky, that may never be an issue within the culture you grow up.

However, in some cultures, it could mean any manner of 'wounding' coming your way if the cultural attitude that this indeed means that there is something about you that is not quite right. There are taboos in some countries about using your left hand for many things, it may mean being forced to write with the right hand or being left alone, but being labelled as behaviourally challenged or just simply being made to feel clumsy, or even of being in league with the devil in some way.

But it depends on what you meet in something that is external to you and I would imagine - luckily, this did not happen to me, but it did happen to my mother - however brave a face you may put on it, being forced to write with your righthand can lead to neurologial difficulties later on - more 'wounding.'

EJ53 06-05-2008 04:40 AM

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Nexus7

This is a good way of illustrating our different views, as I use my knife/fork "left-handedly" and, at primary school, encountered the same problem as your mother - but in a minor way that left no psychological or neurological difficulties. In essence, one elderly teacher identified me as a "Devil's child" and made it her mission to get me to eat right-handedly - rapping me on the knuckles with a spoon whenever she caught me doing otherwise. However, from the outset, I (and everyone else) identified her as being the "odd" one rather than me - finding it more a source of amusement than traumatic. So, as I had no "feelings of shame", it left no psychological scar.

But, in your mother's case, the "event" was more serious/severe and may have evoked that feeling of shame - either because she felt "odd/different" or because she was unable to prevent her individuality/left-handedness being destroyed by others. And that would indeed create the kind of deep-seated psychological problem that (I believe) is indicated by the Chiron placement in our charts.

The neurological issue then does become a factor - but only if it re-inforces the sense of shame.

:sunny: (Thanks. This "event vs feeling" issue is fundamental to my views on Chiron - so having it questioned/disputed by you/others helps me enormously.)

EJ:)

EJ53 06-05-2008 05:18 PM

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Flea

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Originally Posted by flea
....I wonder if chiron's wound is the one of being mortal, all the pain we feel just to experience mortality. Making friends with life and being in the moment, but the pain and shame of the mortal existence, how do you heal that???

This makes sense, as giving up his life (rather than his immortality) was how Chiron got rid of his pain.

On the "shame issue" though, the myth indicates that this was felt by his parents rather than Chiron. He was born "different" because they had transformed themselves into horses to hide their affair from the wife of his father (Saturn) - so he reminded them of their "shameful behaviour" (and he was abandoned/hidden to avoid others finding out about it). So, I'm wondering if our "shame" exists at the very deepest level - put there by the soul/Father at the time of birth and merely reawakened in this lifetime to be atoned for/lived with. Thus, in my case, I feel no shame about being manipulated - it comes from allowing that to happen.

Starlink

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Originally Posted by Starlink
Would midpoints between Chiron and other planets be of interest you think?

Hope your consultation went well yesterday.

I've now looked at my own mid-points in the way you suggested and :

Natal pluto sits on chiron/south node; trines chiron/jupiter and sextiles chiron/saturn

Natal Mercury sextiles chiron/uranus

Because of the south node involvement, maybe the pluto contacts are about what I should not be doing - trying to eliminate/heal the wound by applying jupiter "wisdom" and saturn "discipline".

No ideas yet on what the Mercury contact means, but the chiron/uranus mid-point is semi-sextile pluto (which Mercury squares exactly).

All

I think I'm getting close now to a "suggested approach to the Chiron wound" - based on a sample size of one chart and one person's experience (mine). However, I have not a clue how to explain it here!

EJ:)

QuaOs 06-05-2008 05:24 PM

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I have Chiron closely conjunct Caput Algol at Yod's apex in Taurus 3rd. That has been pretty painful all the way to now. You can see from my chart right here:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...5d5ce7fd51.png

Since in the circle of childhood friends/cousins and in school I have been quite subject of mocking and bully for my weirdness/differences from others.

And until these days I still have to struggle with my speech, often frustrating myself and others who find my words hard to understand. This have to do with both physically feeling uncomfort and being full of phlegm in my throat almost all the time, and mentally when trains of my ideas often get blocked and come out from my mouth in odd rhythms that seem out of sync with other normal people. Still to be proven if it is really "unhealable" wound or not...

(But I can do far better in writing)

EJ53 06-06-2008 08:08 AM

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QuaOs

You seem to have a good understanding of your Chiron wound and how to "live with it" by written rather than oral communications. I do not use fixed stars, but understand that Algol can make you "lose your head and/or fail to see the obvious" - so, I can see how that would affect your trains/rythms of thought. However, the yod does point to this wound becoming a strength after some kind of self-transformation through your career and involvement in large groups. Maybe some of the comments in this thread will help you with that.

All

Using my own life/chart/wound to work through the suggestions/ideas posted on this thread, I'd now speculate that the chiron wound and it's influence might be clarified by the following process :-

Step 1
Re-draw the chart showing only Chiron, the planets within aspect orbs to it and any planets that aspect a Chiron/Planet mid-point.

Step 2

Attempt an interpretation of the planets in aspect, in the light of the text book general meaning of the Chiron placement.

Step 3

Attempt to interpret the natal planet/chiron mid-point contacts

Step 4

Identify the timing of conjunctions made by transitting Chiron to each planet aspecting natal Chiron - and the timing of squares/oppositions/return to its own natal position.

Step 5

Ascertain (from memory) what happened at the time of the Chiron transits in step 4.

Step 6

Prepare yourself for the "pain and shame" of the realisation that we are indeed the architect of our own misfortunes.

This needs an illustration so, using my chart as drawn at step 1 :-

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...8d75903290.jpg

Step 1

My natal chart above shows Chiron and the planets it aspects (in green) - with the planets that aspect Chiron/Planet mid-points (in red)

Step 2

My textbook (Chiron by Martin Lass) says that Chiron in Scorpio inflicts a "feeling that the world is against us, that others seek to bring us down, that others may be plotting against us, and/or that others manipulate us and/or undermine us." He also suggests that, in the 3rd house, this will most likely be "played out in the arena of knowledge, the mind, communications, media and siblings". So, my task is to determine which (if any) of these generalities actually applies to me - something that only I can ever have all the information to do (unless I choose to share it). The first step towards that is to attempt an interpretation of the 5 planet aspect configuration in the chart - Chiron + Sun + Jupiter + Saturn + Uranus - as follows :-

The parental 10/4 axis reveals a father who believed education and originality bring success (uranus in gemini/9th and on MC) - and a mother who feared that "rising above our station in life" brings unhappiness (Jupiter in detriment in Capricorn/4th and on IC). Both parents were highly skilled in knowing how to manipulate me through my natural desire to please them (uranus/jupiter aspects to sun/chiron) - and both considered social standing/position and "office work" as THE indicator of success (uranus/jupiter aspects to saturn in Virgo/11th).

This exactly describes the early/childhood influences on me that ultimately led to pursuing a career in accountancy (for money/status). But, as the uranus placement shows, that meant suppressing my individuality - becoming a "closet astrolger"/uranian in a very saturnian environment.

Step 3

Pluto sits on Chiron/South Node; trines Chiron/Jupiter and sextiles Chiron/Saturn. I'm hoping this indicates the wisdom (jupiter) and discipline (saturn) to understand the wound in-depth (pluto) - but, because the South Node indicates an "undesirable path", attempting to eliminate (pluto) ought not to be my objective. (That and the "inseparable closeness" of my sun/chiron may explain why I believe this wound needs to be lived with).

Neptune sits on Chiron/Saturn; sextiles Chiron/Jupiter and trines Chiron/NN - so, I'm hoping my Neptune/imagination is working correctly here.

Mercury sextiles Chiron/Uranus but squares Chiron/Nodes - and I'm guessing there is a danger here of allowing the mind to interfere with intuition.

So, the Chiron/planet mid-point contacts appear to show me how to move to an understanding of the wound - and when to stop.

Steps 4, 5 and 6

I've just lost 90 minutes of "saved" text on this to the ethers. Having that happen again would be about as welcome as a hernia to an overweight lumberjack on steroids and stilts, so I'll assume these steps need no further comment.


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