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tacobelle00 12-04-2014 01:45 PM

career/finances in chart
 
i'm just wondering if anyone can take a look at my natal chart and give me an idea of what kind of career i should pursue -having a hard time deciding- and if it will help me become financially secure.

Dirius 12-04-2014 02:01 PM

Re: career/finances in chart
 
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Originally Posted by tacobelle00 (Post 588948)
i'm just wondering if anyone can take a look at my natal chart and give me an idea of what kind of career i should pursue -having a hard time deciding- and if it will help me become financially secure.

Interesting chart the ruler of 2nd and 10th is the same planet.

Jupiter is in the 7th house, which is good, but finds itself in its detriment.

Hmmm....if I may ask....are you a big spender? the kind of person that sort of wastes money around? :tongue:

Another problem is that mercury placed inside the 10th, again in its detriment, complicating things even more.

I suppose you sort of have problems money/career wise....can't keep a job, or can't save money'

What I find interesting is the 9th house's ruler, inside the 9 th house, in its own regency.

Could possibly mean aptitude for higher learning education, or career in spirituality (as in minister, pastor, etc).

What can you tell us? :lol:

tacobelle00 12-04-2014 02:13 PM

Re: career/finances in chart
 
i would say i am a big spender, i like to treat myself and others to shopping trips often lol
right now i'm in college looking towards a career in the medical field but i'm not positive that it's exactly what i want to pursue.
the real problem i have is that i am indecisive as to what career to pursue- too many things i'd like to do.
what would having the ruler of the 2nd and 10th in the same planet signify?

Dirius 12-04-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tacobelle00 (Post 588954)
i would say i am a big spender, i like to treat myself and others to shopping trips often lol
right now i'm in college looking towards a career in the medical field but i'm not positive that it's exactly what i want to pursue.
the real problem i have is that i am indecisive as to what career to pursue- too many things i'd like to do.
what would having the ruler of the 2nd and 10th in the same planet signify?

Not much really, just the fact that both houses are tied by the same planet, so by direction/returns/etc both will go hand in hand. As in....if at one stage in your life your career is on crisis, so will your money.

Of course this is sort of obvious, because money is always tied to ones job, but more like...even if you pursue secondary sources of income (as investments with your savings), won't have much influence on you.

The birth chart is a bit complicated to understand, you yourself knows who you are, the rest of us can only make interpretations.

But what I see, and find problematic is the jupiter in its detriment, and the mercury too inside that house.

But the purpose of understanding your birth chat, is so you can take control of yourself.

My advice, start wasting less money and saving more.

Regarding what career to follow, mercury itself (the planet that signifies the mind), placed inside that house might be the reason of your multiple interests, yet in its detriment, makes you undecided.

I suppose you are sort of a jack of all the trades, yet master of none. You like everything, but can't really find yourself to specialize on something.

Yet I do agree medicine is a good career for you, because of 2 reasons:

- Mars in regency in its own house, ruling the 9th, clearly makes you a person with the mind for a higher learning education.

- The sun, the natural planet that represents the will, inside the 9th and in scorpio. Sun in scorpio usually provides an intuitive mind, sort of that sherlock homes type of mind where you enjoy discovering things.

So medicine is probably a good choice.

Zarathu 12-04-2014 02:43 PM

Re: career/finances in chart
 
Tell us a little bit about yourself. What kind of education do you have, what kind of training do you have? How much money do you have?

For example, suggesting that you become a doctor, when everyone knows that you need a BS degree with literally straight A's all through school, and the ability to come up with loans totally about $500,000, is unrealistic except for the very very small few. Or suggesting a teacher, when in the USA at least this requires a 4 year college degree, with very high grades, at the minimum, and often requires a Masters Degree(graduate school) since the job market for this is so tight they only have to take the very very best with the very best education.

Without knowing about you, its impossible to make realistic suggestions about what you could do.

The world around us impacts what we can actually do in a career.

tacobelle00 12-04-2014 02:52 PM

Re: career/finances in chart
 
More about myself- I am currently in college pursuing a BA in Biology deciding whether or not I should go to medical school, pursue law, entertainment business, or any other field, really. The problem is i'm indecisive, a jack of all trades, master of none as Dirius mentioned.
I have good grades, school comes easy to me, the only hard part is the financial aspect- i take out loans and can't pay out of pocket.

Looking at my chart, personality-wise, is there a specific career that would suit me best?

JUPITERASC 12-04-2014 02:57 PM

Re: career/finances in chart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tacobelle00 (Post 588948)

i'm just wondering if anyone can take a look at my natal chart
and give me an idea of what kind of career i should pursue
-having a hard time deciding-
and if it will help me become financially secure.


tacobelle00, there's a great thread discussion for you to refer to for guidance
and to improve understanding
on HOUSES OF WEALTH at
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=49941 :smile:
Quote:

Originally Posted by poyi (Post 388859)

The 2nd house is the first house that most people aware of it importance
in term of possessions and attitude toward money etc in a lower level.
In higher level, 2nd hous also represents our personal values such as self-esteem etc.

The sign,
ruler of the 2nd house' cusp,
the ruler's location in the chart, f
or and against aspects from other planets are some basic cues.


2nd house represents how a native spends and save money and what kind of things this individual treasure the most. For example, ruler of the 2nd house in 2nd house, the native has stronger than usual urge to acquire security in both material or/ and spiritual.

In positive way, ruler in his own house has the greatest power, in 2nd house will motivate this native to learn the skill to earn stable income and even motivate other people to do the same.

In a negative way, this native can become overindulgent, desire for possessions, luxury, money and a life of ease can also blind this person and therefore as an obstacle this person may have difficulty to reach spiritual enlightenment.

However, what sorts of things this native really treasures about will depending on the planet/s in the house and sign as well as the aspects with other planets and the native's overall personality. After all, 2nd house is only 1/12 part of a person. We should also remeber current attitude and trends are also depending on the planteary period at the time.


JUPITERASC 12-04-2014 03:05 PM

Re: career/finances in chart
 
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Originally Posted by tacobelle00 (Post 588961)

More about myself- I am currently in college pursuing a BA in Biology deciding whether or not I should go to medical school, pursue law, entertainment business, or any other field, really. The problem is i'm indecisive, a jack of all trades, master of none as Dirius mentioned.
I have good grades, school comes easy to me, the only hard part is the financial aspect- i take out loans and can't pay out of pocket.

Looking at my chart, personality-wise,
is there a specific career that would suit me best?


There's a traditional method of assessing the PRIMARY MOTIVATION of an individual
which master astrologer Robert Zoller has said is of great value

Quote:

".....By means of it, we may understand what the native wants.
All other wants and desires are negotiable,
but not the Primary Motivation.
If you interfere with another person's ability to realize their Primary Motivation, they are gone....." :smile:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...268#post382268

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnisphericus (Post 382268)

The type of Delineation I'm giving here is a mix of medieval techniques with those of the Hellenistic authors.
Robert Zoller played great role in my traditional astrology education and this is obvious for those who are familiar with his work.
I need to mention that even though Zoller was initially very fond on Arabia authors, his basic delineation techniques are taken from the early reneissance French astrologer Morin. Zoller studied with Zoltan Mason who introduced Morin and his basic natal delineation to Zoller. Zoltan was also one of the first translators of Morin.

Here are some tips for delineating the chart in this manner.

1. The good or bad signified by a house emanates from the ruler of the house.
This is the basic rule. The ruler of the house is giver of the material of the house.

Zoller gives the example of his own chart where he has Combusted Mercury in 11th, ruler of 4th. He comments that this kind of placement brings adversity to ones home and dwellings.

2. Benefit in one area of life can be produced by adversity, or even conflict, in another.

Again Zoller gives example from his own chart.
Jupiter in 9th in Scorpio disposited from Mars in 11th: Wisdom coming from conflicts.

3. The delineation tells you the what. The
predictive techniques tell you the when.


4. The Elemental Quality of the Sign of the Ascendant is showing the type of Primary Motivation of the native.
Fire goes for freedom of action and power.
Air goes for freedom of expression and movement.
The Water signs need emotional security
Earth signs need physical security.

The person with masculine Ascendant (or majority of planets in masculine signs) speaks in active terms: "I did this to that person".
The person with feminine sign on Ascendant or majority planets in feminine signs, speaks in passive terms: "This happened to me".

The Feminine signs seek advice because they need second hand in their decisions, in fact they want someone else to make the decision for them.
Masculine signs seek advice because they have many options so they are not sure which option is better.

Cardinal signs are most active. Cardinal water and earth (Cancer and Capricorn) are working great amount of actions but in circumstances and environment structured already by someone else.
Libra and Aries (Cardinal masculine) are working great in any kind of circumstances.

Fixed signs are centripetal, they need center. They are very successful in Acquisations.
Taurus hoards money.
Leo hoards glory and honor.
Scorpio hoards the hidden things, hidden motivations of other people, seek energy and vitality.
Aquarius hoards Knowledge.

Mutable signs vacillate between the two: cardinal and fixed.

5. Examine the planets which most closely aspects the Ascendant. These planets add to the whole Primary Motivation thing.

Planets aspecting the Ascendant represent powers the native can use in the world.

The aspecting planet's local determination will be added to the Primary
Motivation.
(Venus in 5th will add love for pleasure and entertainment to the native's Primary Motivation).

The aspect between the aspecting planet and the Ascendant tells you how the being of the planet and its local determination are linked.

6. The Ruler of the Ascendant by its house position tells you where (what area of life) the native will seek to realize his/her Primary Motivation.

Look also at all 5 dignity rulers in the place of the ASC. The Almuten and Exalted ruler are lamost as significant as the domicile ruler (sometimes even more).

The Ruler of the Ascendant (as well as the other rulers) by its nature and zodiacal state shows the methods the native will use and the success or failure of the drive.


Lets assume that a person has Cancer on the Ascendant,
The primary motivation of this person is the Need for Emotional Security.
The ruler/s of the Ascendant and their zodiacal and local state will determine How would this be achieved.

Lets assume Moon on IC in Libra Peregrine.
Jupiter in 6th (but 7th sign!) in Capricorn.
Venus in Sag in 6th - Peregrine.
Mars in Scorpio in 4th (but 5th sign!)
Saturn (term ruler) is in 5th Scorpio Peregrine.

We can see that Moon is strong by accident (being on angle), so we can judge first from there.
The need for Emotional Security this person would seek in the home, in the place of the father. The father would be the means through which this person would try to achieve the Emotional Security.
Jupiter - the exalted ruler is weak by being cadent, Venus too. They can't produce much in giving the emotional security this person seeks.
Jupiter by universal means suggest that the native would seek wisdom, religion (and the person actually did!) but by being cadent and in fall, it can't productively give what it promise.
Mars is in 4/5th and is strong by zodiacal state, but is out of sect malefic.
It would try to win competitions, but also with Saturn in 5th will give great deal of creativity. Mars rules the 10th - creativity and looking for career, would also give some amount of emotional security for this person. But by being square with Sun in 7th it means that it will have opposition from authorities and other people in general.

The primary motivation is great deal of what we unconsciously and often consciously seek for. Once that motivation is broken or someone interrupt it, we seek to fix that in the every possible way we can do that.

I will continue with the tips in my next post.



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