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or1000 07-24-2019 11:06 AM

mars sign and dissociation
 
so personally I have noticed when there's quite a mixture of water-air signs, the person can be quite 'spacey'. what are your opinions on the mars sign being in air making the person dissociative prone/not very in touch with the body?

Gemini888 07-24-2019 02:57 PM

Re: mars sign and dissociation
 
What's your mars sign?

moonkat235 07-24-2019 03:15 PM

Re: mars sign and dissociation
 
I struggle with dissociation I think. Do you mean like depersonalization or derealization? Do you mean to the clinical level where it impairs functioning or do you mean like just being out of touch with your body?

or1000 07-24-2019 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini888 (Post 988392)
What's your mars sign?

Gemini Mars. You?

or1000 07-24-2019 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by moonkat235 (Post 988404)
I struggle with dissociation I think. Do you mean like depersonalization or derealization? Do you mean to the clinical level where it impairs functioning or do you mean like just being out of touch with your body?

Dissociation can be a clinical problem. I think it depends on the degree at which you experience it he dissociation. in general, the feeling of being out of touch and strategising a lot/spending so much time in the thoughts is what Iím meaning.

Osamenor 07-24-2019 09:23 PM

Re: mars sign and dissociation
 
The most dissociative sign is Aquarius, if you're talking about being disassociated from the body. Having Aquarius very prominent in a chart tends to be linked with a tendency to, in a way, forget you have a body. That's the person who'll often skip meals just because they're doing something, and then realize with surprise that they haven't eaten all day, or possibly not even think of eating until someone reminds them. Or not pay any attention at all to their body unless they get sick, and then just want to get that inconvenient illness out of the way as soon as possible. (Many of us do that to some extent, but it's especially pronounced in Aquarius.)

If a person with prominent Aquarius isn't doing that, chalk it up to other chart factors that are more physical. Aquarius also has a certain emotional detachment. If it's a prominent sign for you, particularly moon sign, you might not be much in touch with your emotions, either. You might be very objective about things other people find highly emotional. You might not register strong emotion for yourself unless and until it's so strong you really can't ignore it.

Pisces is dissociative in another way. Pisces is very strongly in touch with emotion, extremely sensitive, but has no natural defense other than disappearing. All water signs are highly sensitive, but Cancer has its shell (security orientation) as a defense, and Scorpio has its sting (the vindictiveness and secretiveness Scorpio is known for). All the fish can do is swim away when things get too overwhelming. So, Pisces is very prone to disassociating from heavily emotional situations, which sometimes only the Pisces person perceives as heavily emotional.

Neptune also carries that disappearing tendency. So, if Neptune and/or Pisces is prominent in the chart, or Aquarius is, then we've got someone who's very prone to disassociating, in one way or another.

Osamenor 07-24-2019 09:29 PM

Re: mars sign and dissociation
 
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Originally Posted by or1000 (Post 988341)
what are your opinions on the mars sign being in air making the person dissociative prone/not very in touch with the body?

And to address the original question here, I don't think Mars sign has anything to do with it. But if you have a lot of Aquarius and/or Pisces, and Mars is in Gemini, it's likely to be in aspect with those planets, so helping to highlight their energies: trine Aquarius and square Pisces. If Mars is in Aquarius, it's part of that Aquarian energy. If it's in Libra, it wouldn't affect Pisces directly, unless there's a tight quincunx with a Pisces planet, but could trine Aquarius placements. So, Mars isn't the deciding factor, but it could reinforce dissociative tendencies that are found elsewhere in the chart.

Gemini888 07-25-2019 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by or1000 (Post 988463)
Gemini Mars. You?

Virgo Mars. It's my chart ruler and squares my Sun. A nice balance for the hyperactive Gemini ;)

And I also daydream a lot. I'm not out of touch with my body, but I can sometimes get so lost in thought that my concentration reduces. I have Cap Neptune and Aqua Uranus conj MC. My chart is geared towards Earth than Air though, and I only have 2 water planets.

I also saw your chart in the Read my Chart section. I'm looking through it at the moment, but from a first glance I'd say that your planets are pulling you in so many direction. It's easy to feel confused and dislocated with so much energy conflict.


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