Zelensky

[blackbery]

Yes. Are you able to support your opinion astrologically? This is an astrology forum, not chat.

But you haven't proved anything in your analysis because you are using houses with Putin's chart when no time of birth
can be verified! You can't just 'make up' stuff in astrology.

Even without the time, Putin's truth-telling comes through with leading to a strong leaning towards facts & logic.
Mix that with and he has that ability to fight 4 truth. Putin's is very well aspected...esp with that lovely
& the ability to see 'beyond the veil' & the 'big picture.
is very dominant in Putin's chart. This is a man who deals with reality & follows the rules.
At times, with that he's extremely intuitive & 'knows' things which completely pass by most people.
That's why he's able to call out the satanists in the NWO & their depraved, evil agenda.
He's very much in touch with spiritual or religious matters & has pointed out the depravity & the degeneracy of
western culture. A lot of people agree with him....those that don't follow the 'Putin bad' narrative pushed out by the
Mockingbird Whore Media that is.😏😏

 

[waybread]

The expression "coming home to Russia" is cynical in the extreme, given the mass destruction the Russian military has wreaked on Ukraine. Having Russia bomb your apartment building isn't exactly a welcoming home-coming. But don't believe me. Satellite imagery shows what happened. Everyone knows the "referendum" was a sham, with armed soldiers going door to door to collect "ballots." They would know exactly the identity of anyone who voted for Ukraine or declined to vote, where these "voters" live, and would go after them. A vote under that kind of coercion is a cruel sham.

Transiting Saturn (now retrograde) has been hovering around Volodymyr Zelensky's MC at 20 Aquarius and opposing his Leo moon for some time. But once Saturn goes direct, it will move very quickly, and be out-of-orb by January 2023. Jupiter in Aries has sextiled Zelensky's sun-Venus conjunction for some time, and, retrograde, will trine his natal Mars at the end of this year/early 2023.

I've had this Jupiter effect as well, with transiting Jupiter sextiling my Aquarian Mercury-Venus and trining my Leo moon. It has taken the edge off the effect of Saturn conjuncting my natal Aquarian sun. Things are bad for Ukraine, but Jupiter says, "Keep the faith."

Zelensky's progressed moon is also approaching a trine with his natal moon. The moon is one indicator of home and homeland.

Zelensky's relationship with Saturn would appear to be good. His natal Saturn sextiles natal Jupiter.

Nobody expects this winter to be easy for Europeans as they wean themselves off Russian oil. But they know that if they cave in on Ukraine, one or more of them will be next on Putin's land grab agenda-- provided the Russian army could somehow stanch its tremendous losses of troops and materiel.

 

[david starling]

Comedic actor Ronald "Bed Time For Bonzo" Reagan, an Aquarian Sun like comediic actor Zelensky, also went straight from show business into politics.

As President, Reagan was obsessed with ending the U.S.S.R., and was instrumental in making that happen. Coincidentally, President Zelensky is obsessed with preventing a U.S.S.R. KGB agent from restoring the Soviet hegemony in Eastern Europe.

 

[Vulcan]

Well plugging in local noon charts for Kyiv and Moscow, I got Pluto strongest for both. Zelensky's is in the 6th with pof in Libra 7th, suggesting he's better at warfare and diplomacy. Sun conjunct Venus in 10th and Gemini ruling 3rd seems a possible comedian profession. Putin's is in the 9th square Jupiter in Aries in 6th, suggesting to me he does believes he's fighting fascists. His fortune in 8th, suggesting he needs an oligarchy to stay in power and can't go the socialist route.

 

[david starling]

Well plugging in local noon charts for Kyiv and Moscow, I got Pluto strongest for both. Zelensky's is in the 6th with pof in Libra 7th, suggesting he's better at warfare and diplomacy. Sun conjunct Venus in 10th and Gemini ruling 3rd seems a possible comedian profession. Putin's is in the 9th square Jupiter in Aries in 6th, suggesting to me he does believes he's fighting fascists. His fortune in 8th, suggesting he needs an oligarchy to stay in power and can't go the socialist route.

What chart are you using for Putin?

 

[Vulcan]

What chart are you using for Putin?

The one posted on the astrodatabank site. I should maybe have mentioned Pluto is conjunct Lilith, that actually forms the square to Jupiter in Aries (I see Lilith as the feminine aspect of Pluto, suggesting also indolent elites and oligarchies).

 

[blackbery]

Don't think anyone did his Solar Return for 2022 but it's a mixed bag with MC !😗😗
MC can be very positive but not when it's afflicted with tense, hard aspects like the above.
The H! /MC can mean a loss of power, damage to reputation & career which we have seen throughout
2022 with him squeaky clean image turned into a 'nazi-supporting, war-mongering coke head from Kyiv!😏
Look at the AC & the stellium in H1; it's all about Zelensky & his push for war & fighting.
Latest plea from him for more money now brings the total from the US to around 80 BILLION!!!
Americans are sick of their monies going to the money-laundering, Ukraine grift; it never ends!☹️☹️☹️

How much longer can Zelensky cling onto power when he's shut down democracy, silenced the opposition
& all real news media were eradicated in Ukraine! The tyrant Zelensky can only rule like Ceasar 4 a little while longer
with those tense aspects in both his transits & Solar Return!!! The people are no longer with him.

After U.S. Soldiers Were Told to Go On Food Stamps,​

Congress Finds Another $12 Billion for Ukraine 😭😭😭​

After U.S. Soldiers Were Told to Go On Food Stamps, Congress Finds Another $12 Billion for Ukraine

Congressional lawmakers negotiating a stop-gap spending bill have agreed to a deal that would provide another $12 billion in aid to Ukraine.

thepoliticalinsider.com

 

[JUPITERASC]

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Don't think anyone did his Solar Return for 2022

ZELENSKY NATAL - 2022 SOLAR RETURN

but it's a mixed bag with MC !😗😗
MC can be very positive but not when it's afflicted with tense, hard aspects like the above.
The H! /MC can mean a loss of power, damage to reputation & career which we have seen throughout
2022 with him squeaky clean image turned into a 'nazi-supporting, war-mongering coke head from Kyiv!😏
Look at the AC & the stellium in H1; it's all about Zelensky & his push for war & fighting.
Latest plea from him for more money now brings the total from the US to around 80 BILLION!!!
Americans are sick of their monies going to the money-laundering, Ukraine grift; it never ends!☹️☹️☹️

How much longer can Zelensky cling onto power when he's shut down democracy, silenced the opposition
& all real news media were eradicated in Ukraine! The tyrant Zelensky can only rule like Ceasar 4 a little while longer
with those tense aspects in both his transits & Solar Return!!! The people are no longer with him.

After U.S. Soldiers Were Told to Go On Food Stamps,​

Congress Finds Another $12 Billion for Ukraine 😭😭😭​

After U.S. Soldiers Were Told to Go On Food Stamps, Congress Finds Another $12 Billion for Ukraine

Congressional lawmakers negotiating a stop-gap spending bill have agreed to a deal that would provide another $12 billion in aid to Ukraine.

thepoliticalinsider.com

 

[blackbery]

Thanks JA.
And here is his Solar Return stand-alone.
We'll have to draw a new one in Jan/2023 but let's wait to see if he's still in power then! I highly doubt it. But he can run
away to any one of his 3 multi-million dollar mansions in Italy, London or Florida!😏😏

 

[JUPITERASC]

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ZELENSKY NATAL - TRANSITS/PROGRESSIONS

Russia PUTIN has so much energy
Russia may put under floor heating on all the sidewalks.
To keep Russians feet warm when they go for a walk in the winter.
Russia and China showing restraint and letting the ZELENSKY/US destroy itself

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[waybread]

Realistically speaking (which I assume is OK here as an occasional diversion) military experts do not expect Putin's war against Ukraine to be over soon or within the next few months. Putin's pathological calculus seems to be that if Russia is going to be defeated, it's important that he not admit defeat too soon: not before he has destroyed many more Russian and Ukrainian lives. Meanwhile Putin is hoping that Europe will freeze in the dark this winter, and that the West will tire of backing Ukraine, notably if the US Congress flips in January. If those two don't work in his favor, Putin's options become a lot more limited.

Sanctions are hurting Russia's ability to import needed parts for all kinds of things electronic and mechanical. Oh, like the mechanical infrastructure needed for heating sidewalks in the Russian winter.

Astrologically, then, it makes sense to look well into 2023, or even 2024. Also, if something were to happen to Zelensky, Ukrainians would keep fighting for their homeland. It may make more sense to look at the Ukrainian national chart than to focus specifically on Zelensky.

Ukraine, as you know, is a very old country and ethnicity, but the current nation dates from the break-up of the former USSR in August 24, 1991.

I've had some luck forecasting with solar arcs. Worth a try-- they rotate the planets in the same relationship to the sun that they have in the natal.

Asteroids may be of interest-- and don't knock 'em unless you've tried 'em. Victoria was the Roman goddess of victory. Asteroid Victoria #12 conjuncts Ukraine's sun within 1 degree. Solar arc sun and Victoria keep that tight conjunction, trying Ukraine's natal Saturn into January 25, 2024 (Zelensky's birthday.)

Venus is the planetary ruler of peace. It makes a close out-of-sign conjunction to Ukraine's sun, a relationship it keeps in the solar arc chart.

Solar arc Jupiter conjuncts natal Mars. Solar arc Mars sextiles natal Jupiter, a double effect.

Of course, "the stars impel, they do not compel," but I wouldn't write out Ukraine and Zelensky just yet. It will take a generation to rebuild their shattered infrastructure, but I think they can do so without Russian military occupation.

 

[david starling]

Realistically speaking (which I assume is OK here as an occasional diversion) military experts do not expect Putin's war against Ukraine to be over soon or within the next few months. Putin's pathological calculus seems to be that if Russia is going to be defeated, it's important that he not admit defeat too soon: not before he has destroyed many more Russian and Ukrainian lives. Meanwhile Putin is hoping that Europe will freeze in the dark this winter, and that the West will tire of backing Ukraine, notably if the US Congress flips in January. If those two don't work in his favor, Putin's options become a lot more limited.

Sanctions are hurting Russia's ability to import needed parts for all kinds of things electronic and mechanical. Oh, like the mechanical infrastructure needed for heating sidewalks in the Russian winter.

Astrologically, then, it makes sense to look well into 2023, or even 2024. Also, if something were to happen to Zelensky, Ukrainians would keep fighting for their homeland. It may make more sense to look at the Ukrainian national chart than to focus specifically on Zelensky.

Ukraine, as you know, is a very old country and ethnicity, but the current nation dates from the break-up of the former USSR in August 24, 1991.

I've had some luck forecasting with solar arcs. Worth a try-- they rotate the planets in the same relationship to the sun that they have in the natal.

Asteroids may be of interest-- and don't knock 'em unless you've tried 'em. Victoria was the Roman goddess of victory. Asteroid Victoria #12 conjuncts Ukraine's sun within 1 degree. Solar arc sun and Victoria keep that tight conjunction, trying Ukraine's natal Saturn into January 25, 2024 (Zelensky's birthday.)

Venus is the planetary ruler of peace. It makes a close out-of-sign conjunction to Ukraine's sun, a relationship it keeps in the solar arc chart.

Solar arc Jupiter conjuncts natal Mars. Solar arc Mars sextiles natal Jupiter, a double effect.

Of course, "the stars impel, they do not compel," but I wouldn't write out Ukraine and Zelensky just yet. It will take a generation to rebuild their shattered infrastructure, but I think they can do so without Russian military occupation.

Ima report you for being too realistic!

 

[Oddity]

Where's all the money going to come from? As you may have noticed in the US 2022 spring ingress, we were about seven minutes to midnight on the economic crash front (moon rules 2 from 5 - speculation and gambling - at 29.53 Libra, all ready to fall). We've gone from seven minutes to 'what's tomorrow gonna look like?' if you've been following the financial news. Who's going to fund the new NATO (USA) instalment in Germany to train Ukrainian soldiers, give them weapons, and so forth? Will Zelensky be able to survive without his 10+ billion per month allowance from us?

And it isn't just America - the whole west is tanking. So who'll support the war? Or is it so important that the west will have to sacrifice even more?

 

[david starling]

[deleted attacking comment - Moderator] Saturn when he claims the 3rd Decant of Sagittarius as an addition to Capricorn! And then see what Jupiter has to say about it!

 

[JUPITERASC]

Where's all the money going to come from? As you may have noticed in the US 2022 spring ingress,

ARIES INGRESS WASHINGTON D.C. 2022 TROPICAL - CURRENT TRANSITS

we were about seven minutes to midnight on the economic crash front (moon rules 2 from 5 - speculation and gambling - at 29.53 Libra, all ready to fall). We've gone from seven minutes to 'what's tomorrow gonna look like?' if you've been following the financial news.

Who's going to fund the new NATO (USA) instalment in Germany to train Ukrainian soldiers, give them weapons, and so forth?

Will Zelensky be able to survive without his 10+ billion per month allowance from us?

And it isn't just America - the whole west is tanking. So who'll support the war? Or is it so important that the west will have to sacrifice even more?

 

[JUPITERASC]

ZELENSKY NATAL TRANSITS/PROGRESSIONS

According to Panama papers ZELENSKY transferred billions of dollars
to offshore accounts
in the Caribbean
and
also has a villa in Florida worth 32 million dollars
as well as other villas
Zelensky is walking away a very very rich man.
Straight from the US into his bank account - he gained more than 2 billion in 5 months
Let's see what the america flood victims get from the government

Where's all the money going to come from? ......... Will Zelensky be able to survive without his 10+ billion per month allowance from us?

And it isn't just America - the whole west is tanking. So who'll support the war? Or is it so important that the west will have to sacrifice even more?

 

[JUPITERASC]

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ZELENSKY Ukraine Attempts New Kherson Offensive
Suffers Heavy Losses, Slowed by Autumn Rains
the Autumn rains are a persistent unbelievable down pour
which blankets the entire Steppe.
tends to soak away quickly
but the ground is like a soggy sponge
like walking on a massive mattress.
already seeing the effect of the mud.
NATO vehicles are already burying themselves in the mud from the recent rains

The whole armor vehicles donated to Ukraine got stuck on the mud
and really likely that they not going to have easy time taking it out.
Apart from the muddies it's unbelievably tiring to move around in.

Zelenskyy and Elon getting into a fight

ZELENSKY TRANSITS/PROGRESSIONS

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[waybread]

Oddity, funding the war is a reasonable question. The short answer is that governments will do what they've always done-- run a deficit. Maybe raise some taxes to increase revenues, or cut some spending programs.

On the other hand right now the US dollar is very strong against other currencies, making foreign imports to the US cheaper, somewhat helping the balance of trade, and demand for US grain exports is high. So there's more than one way to slice and dice a budget.

In the US Sibly chart that I use, the 2nd house of money is ruled by Saturn, which seems bad, but the Sibly chart Saturn is exalted at 14 degrees Libra, in the angular 10th house. In synastry the Sibly Saturn conjuncts Zelensky's natal Pluto, which suggests the US understands foreign aid to Ukraine as an existential (Pluto) threat.

But it has to be understand that Zelensky is merely the most public face of Ukraine's resistance to the Russian invasion. If we compare the Sibly chart with Ukraine's post-USSR founding chart, the two countries have conjunct moons (within 5 degrees). The Sibly-Ukraine national charts, when placed into a composite midpoint chart, show a strong and positive relationship, with composite sun conjunct Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and Venu.

Despite far-right political agitation against funding Ukraine, I don't see US support for Ukraine vanishing anytime soon.

 

[JUPITERASC]

ZELENSKY - TRANSITS PROGRESSIONS

More on the Western strategy to get us all killed by provoking nuclear war
Western leaders are warning that Russia is set for nuclear war
and readying the public for their response.
Is this valid or propaganda?
Meanwhile, ZELENSKY Ukraine's application for NATO
was put exactly where it was before the public signing ceremony last week: waitlisted
The head of Nato denouncing "...nuclear rhetoric..." is himself engaged in exactly that.
One of the oldest tricks: accuse your enemy of what you do yourself

obvious that PUTIN has displayed Extraordinary restraint.
measured and precise, both in his language and his actions.
PUTIN does not need to bluff. And he is not bluffing. At all.
He honestly has not even started yet.

Ukraine has been delaying their obligations under the Minsk Agreement
which they signed in 2014 and then again in 2015.
In Feb. 2022 French President Macron warned ZELENSKY
that PUTIH was tired of waiting and they should implement the agreement.
ZELENSKY publicly announced he would do so
but then British PM Boris Johnston advised him not to. - Here we are

after the coup in 2014, Ukraine defaulted its debt
corruption index/hate crimes skyrocketed
many alarming reports and articles from international organizations and MSM were published
denouncing violations of human rights
and the concerning totalitarian derives of post-Maïdan regimes.
But, It suddently went all silent by the end of 2021

Russia and Ukraine agreed on a tentative deal to end the war in April
according to a recent piece in Foreign Affairs by Fiona Hill and Angela Stent.
"... Russian and Ukrainian negotiators tentatively agreed on the outlines of
a negotiated interim settlement.
Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23
when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange
Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership
and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries....”

Highlights the
impact of former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s efforts to stop negotiations
journalist Branko Marcetic noted on Twitter.
The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv
during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr ZELENSKY
to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons:
PUTIN cannot be negotiated with
and
West isn’t ready for the war to end.
Raises some key questions:
Why did Western leaders want to stop Kyiv from signing a seemingly good deal with Moscow?

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[blackbery]

Thank you for the info JupiterAC. Can you imagine that the conflict could have CEASED if only the NWO puppet
Johnson hadn't ordered the Zelensky cabal puppet to stop negotiating with Putin!😏😏
This intel is all coming out during the & we are in post-shadow now which is even more treacherous!
What other secrets will spill out during this time?😗

The more you study Zelensky's chart, the more you realize what a truly disturbed, erratic person he is.
No gentle easy placements, just unease & stress, probably because he's not comfortable with who he is.
Maybe he was teased about it in school & it's left a wounding. Too bad he has no integrity or honesty.
It's too bad that this NWO puppet has allowed hundreds of thousands of Ukranian military to be killed coz he's part of the
global, criminal enterprise. This is why he was installed in Ukraine as leader, to work 4 them & not the people.☹️☹️
We see the people suffering in the H1 & their own leader is actively destroying their country.

Meanwhile, Zelensky, NATO, Ukranian oligarchs & corrupt politicians in every party are getting very wealthy while
pushing Ukraine into a nuclear war!🤢🤢🤢


Meanwhile, Russia will be conducting military trials against the Ukranian nazis who committed mass war-crimes.
Will Zelensky be implicated? There is evidence that he (well, the cabal who control him via the CIA) tried to initiate a
nuclear meltdown in Ukraine to push Russia into dropping a nuke. swamp desperate & panicking. 😌😌
Putin sent in a special military op with scientists to halt this black op by the CIA-US.

These are the evil monsters we are dealing with. The same group who dropped cluster bombs & Agent Orange on
children & civilians in Vietnam/Cambodia, dropped nuclear bombs on Japan, carpet-bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya &
caused hundreds of thousands of deaths & now trying to wipe out 90% of the population with their 'green deal bull', their
vaccines & burning down farmland, killing animals & destroying food warehouses & processing plants.

All indicators in Zelensky's chart show that he'll be gone soon.
Which puppet will they install next?☹️☹️