WW3 coming in Taiwan soon? 😏

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No one could have predicted for sure what would happen
when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan.
Well, unless they were predicting
that Pelosi would deliver a nonsensical word salad of a speech if given the opportunity.
And that’s just what she did, waxing incomprehensibly :)
about the concepts of liberty, security and democracy, and even dragging poor Ben Franklin
into the bowl where she tossed this inscrutable word salad.

One can only imagine the struggle faced by the Chinese interpreters
who sought to make sense of it all.
Jimmy and America’s comedian Kurt Metzger discuss Pelosi’s gibberish-fest

while we all get to see how Kurt would look with a Pelosi-inspired hairpiece.


Pretty scary that the top 3 people in line for the most powerful person in the world
can’t say a coherent sentence when having it already written for them
This is horrifying. Why are these people being allowed to be in charge of anything
especially decisions that can start wars?
should scare everyone that an 82 year old who has clearly taken leave of her senses is still in office.
This is part scary, part embarrassing.

I'd like to speak on behalf of the Chinese and say
we are sorry we overreacted - after seeing Nancy Pelosi's speech in Taiwan
we now totally and actually understand that America is now absolutely no threat to us, whatsoever.
We thought Joe Biden was the only 80 year old politician with dementia :)
representing your once powerful country
but now we realise most of your self-serving, pocket lining politicians are actually deluded
so, onc again we are sorry we overreacted because we now know

you are no longer a threat to us or our domination of the world
 

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Defence Minister Richard Marles says reports of Chinese missiles being fired near Taiwan
is “...deeply concerning...”

In response to US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Taiwan visit, China’s military
is conducting its largest drills aimed at Taiwan in more than 25 years, which will last through to Sunday.
“...We really need to be moving down a path of trying to de-escalate tensions around Taiwan :)
Our position remains unchanged.
We don’t want to see any unilateral changes to the status quo on either side of the Taiwan Strait

and we really need to be urging everyone to de-escalate the tensions that we see there...”


US government doesn't think twice about starting wars on foreign lands as long as it doesn't occur on American soil.
It is NOT normal to visit anywhere in the world where you are told YOU ARE NOT WELCOME or asked NOT to visit!
FJB
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JUPITERASC

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Semi Conductors, Taiwan produces literally the world supply.
Pelosi bought shares in a company that produces Semiconductor :)
and guess where that company is and guess where she went on that very fleeting visit?
she was lining up up few more investments in the chip industry for hubby Paul, as she does. Follow the money

US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan looked like “...grandstanding.
We know that Taiwan is a sensitive issue
What it has done is brought forward a timeline, so Beijing now is agitated.
It is aggravated and it has said it is taking action.
So, that now then heightens the alert for everybody around Taiwan.
We are in a very precarious time right now and Pelosi
while she may have had every right to go there
all she has done is brought forward a very precarious and dangerous time in our near future....”
She's just laying the groundwork when they start talking about someone's freedom and democracy
there's a war coming and there's something they want.
Neocons in Congress have a bill now to give more recognition to Taiwan

change the one-China policy and challenge China again.


remember when they had a go at Trump when he got a congratulations phone call
from the president of Taiwan just after his election win

now they fly them in

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The US has an official policy of “...strategic ambiguity..” :)
that is really double talk :)
on the one-China policy.

If there is one China and Taiwan is not independent, then Taiwan is part of China.
But the US undermines the one-China policy
by treating Taiwan like its independent and arming Taiwan against China.

This is a clear interference in China’s internal affairs :)
and China’s tired of it
just as the US would be if the situation were reversed.

The US is not calming tensions between Taiwan and China by militarizing Taiwan
but rather making China see that it will ultimately have no choice
but to reunite with Taiwan by force.

This is the same kind of idiocy that sparked a Russian invasion of Ukraine. :)

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Why are they trembling now, I thought they called Chinese threats a bluff :)
They called it a bluff
now that they follow up on their threats
they cry oh no look at what China is doing
as if China did not forewarn this. :)
US is just pathetic

Taiwan passes legislation effective even through out mainland China
however cannot implement it
while the mainland is passing decrees and orders effective even through Taiwan

but not implement it. So there is only one China.
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The relationship between the US and China has expectedly plummeted
resulting in the cancellation of several meetings
because of the senseless and stupid act of a selfish woman :)

Let's hope that restraint will be exercised to avert any military confrontation

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The first country to ever attack Taiwan with warship was the US in 1867 :)
the country that supported Japan invading Taiwan
during the mudan incident, was the US in 1874.
the country that sold weapons to Japan during the first Sino-Japanese war, 1894 1895
leading to China's defeat, forcing China to cede Taiwan to Japan
was the US from 1894 to 1895.
the country that actively pushes for Japanese containment of China,
in Taiwanese containment of mainland China
is the US from the 19th century until today :)

So can we really say that the US is a friend ?

Taiwan is being used to serve US imperialist interests :)
these recent events show that so-called Taiwan separatism is not true independence
but it further embroils Taiwan into serving US imperialist interests .

True independence means independence from this sort of hegemonic
unequal relationship where you don't even have dignity as a human being
but instead
where everyone has equal rights to have voices heard as equal citizens
and not subjects of the western empire :)


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US talks about escalation
but also talks about putting a military base with missiles
and sending military equipment to make that little island a threat.
They don't see that as an escalation :)


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Perhaps the proud people of Tiawan should declare their independence of China to the world
then become a province of the United States and subsequent Statehood :)


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US: pelosi will visit Taiwan (baiting)

China: you will pay the price if you visit (baiting)

US: "...They took the bait..." pelosi lands TW.

China: "...They took the bait...." drills closer to TW, cancel talks...

US: hey hey, what are you doing.. stop that!!

China: uh uh too late. stop me if you can. LOL
to be continued :)

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We should have made Taiwan a American state or a protectorate of America :)
80 and 90 yr olds that can barely stand on their own two feet

are just not giving vote of confidence to the rest of the world
that they are still capable of their own bowel movements
let alone running a military superpower?!?

Her assistant must remind her who she is and why is she speaking in public

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JUPITERASC

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Never has the US lost so much so quickly for so little :)
US actions have made relations between Russia and China even closer.
This will also accelerate the creation of a "...brics..." currency.
Which will take the place of the dollar and diminish the United States ability to spend on its own military
and probably create social unrest within America itself.
in terms of logistics china's military is unmatched.
people gloss over the logistics
because china made moving 150-200 thousand troops, dozens of ships, hundreds of aircrafts
hundreds if not thousands of armored vehicles
look easier than moving into a new house

They mobilised 200k troops within 2 days, astonishing

You do not wound a tiger and then expect it to not bite.
There will be many different forms of punishment for Pelosi and Biden
the Taiwanese government, and the collective west.
The only constants will be their severity and their certainty.
Any fool knows that you do not jump the barrier at the Grand Canyon

and leap without a parachute and expect to survive. Some things should not require a lot of thought.


Russia and China working together and cooperating is West's nightmare. China will most certainly work together with the developing world.

two funny things
1. Reason for Pelosi to visit Taiwan.
Officially they say Pelosi wanted to do something extraordinary before retirement.
But some people say she is not going to retire. Just opposite. She decided to run for president in 2024
and this event is the beginning of her election campaign :)

2. Many people realize that TSMC is one of the most important producers of electronic chips.
Many people know that machinery is the monopoly of the Netherlands' ASML,
design is the monopoly of the USA, and chemical components are the monopoly of Japan.

Probably much fewer people realize that chips need a special kind of specially prepared sand (pure quartz) :)
Guess who has the monopoly in this field?
Rightly you guess.
The Chinese government announced the delivery of sand to Taiwan is halted :)
since August 3rd China has cut supply of Silicon to Taiwan for their chip manufacturing.

70% of china's economy is already reliant on domestic consumption according to IMF
they are also dumping US treasury bond holdings
and are becoming even more self sufficient in terms of high end technologies.
In short the US is already running out of cards to play


Keep in mind the Taiwan Constitution says that Taiwan is a province of China
Just facts. Taiwan island has always been a part of China.
That is the one China policy - recognized by the United Nation.
And recognized by the US since 1979 signed document.
The local passport of the Taiwan province is printed “...The Republic of China...” (ROC) from day 1.
Taiwan is a not a country. It is a province of China. This is in the local govt constitution of the Taiwan province.
China PLA has entered the territorial waters and airspace claimed by Taiwan during the exercise
and has controlled all the waterways.
In fact it has demonstrated its sovereignty over the island of Taiwan.
The West has no objection, because it is completely in line with the one-China policy they all recognized.
And China will have the ability to normalize such displays of sovereignty.

China does not need to land on Taiwan to complete its oath of sovereignty over Taiwan

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Curtain University’s Professor Joe Siracusa says there is likely more fallout to come
from US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan, starting with cut-off communication. :)
shows you just how bad it can get and just how good was Trump.

“...We’re getting the Australia treatment in the United States now
the Chinese don’t want to talk to us, just cutting off all kinds of communications
all kinds of security and crime dialogs, climate change
The consensus in the United States is that the trip was unnecessary, arbitrary, and reckless...”

Professor Siracusa said the belief was Ms Pelosi “...didn’t accomplish anything...”
and there was not a clear point to the visit.
“...She created nightmares for both President Biden and President Xi :)

She accomplished absolutely nothing and she created a lot of difficulties for people....”


hypocrisy and inconsistency of the United States government which is the one who everyone listens to:
on the one hand everyone agrees on the "...one china policy..." including Pelosi :)

(because it is the official guideline of the United States)
Last poll in Taiwan shows 98% of people in Taiwan support the One China Policy
which means Taiwan is part of China.

on the other hand Pelosi's words during her trips and on her tweets are incoherent and inconsistent
with what her own government says
and this creates confusion and tensions.
Pelosi should really consider the nursing home instead of taking certain unnecessary risks
and playing with people's lives.
Pride and selfishness, self interest and narrow mindedness have corrupted these political leaders
She was able to shore up her investments and underhanded deals
She accomplished a lot for her husband's stock portfolio
Her trip over to Taiwan as well as her going to Ukraine, was for returning to the US with laundered $$$
She made sure that her money laundering and insider trading operations continued without any interruptions.

She provided a great distraction from the problems at home in the US
she took the spotlight off her husband DUI court appearance :)
both cars involved were totaled.. how he had some kinda drugs in his system.
how the cop asked for his license he pulled out his “...husband of the ***** in charge...” card
to hint a bribe
how he was sooo out of his mind drunk and looked so F’d up slurring his words
they let him wait to take his mug shot
but
a certain maturity of an 82-year-old with in a certain office is expected
for the first time in history both China and Russia became closer than ever.
Now China is going to support Russia openly in Ukraine.
For this new development on Nancy is eligible to get credit.

She got computer chips for voting machines in upcoming elections :)
All you have to do is the math. She just bought stock in the chips industry through insider trading s
he is also pushing a bill through Congress to fund a Company in Taiwan that makes these chips
that she invested in that will enable Her stock to skyrocket

it was a self serving trip on the taxpayers dollar

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Col Macgregor is down to earth , brilliant analyst of the global changing situation
and the need to accept the legitimate rights
of both Russia and China regarding Ukraine and TAIWAN.
The USA needs badly clear sighted people like him
in order to walk away from American futile confrontational policy.
Thanks Jackson for bringing into focus some American people who can still think clearly :)
in the full interview Colonel Macgregor mentioned
“...The Chinese are not like us, they consider force as the LAST resort

but once they decide to use force, they will go all the way everything they can...”- Col MacGregor


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all this because of an octogenarian
who wanted to visit countries feeling like queen of the world.



The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged.
They hoped the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests & leadership.
That didn’t happen.
So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end :)
Their goal is to destroy the country.
That’s why the United States has killed several million people
and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.

China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters.
They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone
bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government
or used its military on anything since 1979.

China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West.
To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened.

The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago.
Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.
From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship.
And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it.
There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia.
But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America?
They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery.

Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does.

In the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China.
We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth.
This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria
but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence.

The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments

China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies.
For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded
and isolated economically and politically by the West.
It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly.
And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy
a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine.
And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders.
Why on earth would it do that now?

China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that.
The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year
to become the world’s largest by 2035.
That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill.
The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants
recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along.
Has any of it made a difference?

China can adapt to any situation.
It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress
from participating in the “...International...” Space Station
to building its own Space Station from zero.

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Taiwan, you need to pick your friends better.
It’s always best to regard Nancy as an enemy.
The United States owes you abject apologies.
Apologies to China too. You were both used by the U.S.
for a possible hot conflict right before the U.S. November elections.
Expect more possibilities to emerge :)
US will defend Taiwan like Ukraine from a safe distance, monitoring and making belligerent speeches
Someone should have told Nancy that if you're already in a hole you should probably stop digging
Pelosi's husband plays the stock market
he knows what companies would be hardest hit by this move of his wife
and he also knows what company is will do the best.
He could easily invest his money knowing the outcome of what she's going to do
nobody else knew what she was going to do but he knew for sure.
This is the whole problem in the US
these guys have people working for them and they have insider trading
and she cannot be charged for insiders trading because she's a member of the house.
Check it out she's exempt :)

be aware of the fact that Chinese exercises
also partially blocked the shipping lanes in Taiwan Strait and Bashi Channel to South Korea and Japan.
These shipping lanes are their life line.
The MSM do not want to talk about it.
China is sending a clear message to both South Korea and Japan.
Don't stand against China in Taiwan.

Parents in China now tell their kids they have to finish their dinner cuz

“...Think of all the starving kids in America...“
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Taiwan and China are not two separate nations
no country in the world recognizes Taiwan as separate :)
the UN doesn't recognize this, and neither does Taiwan's own constitution
which clearly says it's a part of China.

Stationing troops in a country without the permission of the legitimate government of that country
(which is Beijing, recognized as the sole legitimate government of China by the UN
and almost every country in the world including the US
according to the One China Principle since Nixon's visit to China)
is literally called an invasion.

If the US invades China by violating its sovereignty over Taiwan
and attempting to station military assets there without Beijing's consent
China has a right to defend itself and its territorial integrity

and this is not an invasion it's legitimate self-defense.

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Nancy Pelosi bringing her son, Paul Pelosi Jr., on her trip to Taiwan wasn't reported :)


Now we know why Nancy was soooooo mad
when President Trump wisely cancelled her "...family..." trip to South Korea, etc
Dealing in energy, fossil fuels and electric cars and microchips is a vast market
and is very lucrative.
Everyone wants to get in on the action.
Biden's and Polosi's are in the thick of it :)
There is a perfectly good reason all these trips took place.
the plot thickens and more pieces of the puzzle are in place!


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significance of 2049 is
that year will be the 100th aniversary of the PRC (1949).
No CN leader can shoulder the guilt/blame of losing a piece of CN territory (TW)
it's a Chinese thing, not a CCP thing
but it was never really the intention to take TW back by force :)
which would obviously
slow down CN's economic growth, and bloodbath does not help with the subsequent reign
(and both sides are Chinese). The plan has always been peaceful re-unification:
in the old days, the mainland was much poorer, it's completely understandable that
TW-nese does not want to come back, as time goes on, the economic gap is much smaller
(despite TW's nominal GDP per capita is much higher than that of the mainland
the real purchasing power is probably a different story
and if you've been to Taipei and Beijing or Shanghai or Shenzhen
you'll know TW still lives in the 1990s, while mainland is in 2022).

In recent years, people also start to see Taiwanese are proud of the technological
or other achievements by the mainland. Many TW-nese live on the mainland
actual knowing what it is like kills irrational fears/propaganda
(many Westerners have biases against CN simply because they have not travelled extensively).
If it's not the US driving the wedge/selling arms/actively supporting separatism relentlessly
peaceful negotiation would have been possible - let's not talk about "...democracy..."
the US only makes an issue about it when you are not an ally.
And if we are seriously honest, democratic process is really controlled by capitals/interest groups
the bipartisan cut throat in the US really reveals the most grotesque form of the voting culture
people end up with political scorings like Pelosi's visit to Taiwan
and leaders with no vision no plan no genuine effort for the country and people
with no accountability but pointing fingers.
Ultimately, every country including the US is governed by elite groups
the only difference is which group and who are the real drivers.
Not voting does not mean people does not have a say in CN: it's a government for the people
of the people and by the people, it's an innate duty for the government to manage everything
for the benefit of the country and people (parent like gov - analogy of parents)
it's just something probably difficult
for people from a perfunctory democracy/superficial voting culture to understand


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It is a universal strategy that can be used in all kinds of contexts.
The strategy is aka "...Slicing the Salami..."
- what US has been doing to both Russia /China for decades.

HOW IT WORKS

On Taiwan in particular :)
here's some of the "...2 millimeters..." US has made just in the past few years
- Put 20 US marines to train Taiwanese troops.
US closed its Taiwan base in 1979 when it signed up for One China.
- Landed a US airforce jet in Taipei for 1 hour
to deliver a diplomatic package
for no reason because diplomatic packages are delivered commercial all the time
- Trump phone call with Taiwanese president
- Removed "...Taiwan is part of China..." from State Department website
- Executive order banning all US federal agencies from buying maps that depict Taiwan as part of China
- Pelosi visit

All of these "...2 millimeters..." prompted protests from Beijing
that they violate the One China Principle, but none, in and of itself

were enough or worth starting a war over.

The way this ends, at least in the case of Russia and China

is that "...3 miles back..." they eventually lash out.

And then of course the US reaction is: "Wow, we just went 2 millimeters
and they just lashed out and went completely crazy.

This is unacceptable behavior in the international community.
Russia/China is the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler...."
It's always Hitler, never Stalin or any number of other historical dictators. KISS.

Latest Chinese military response is however going the other direction.

Encroaching on Taiwan territorial waters
and holding military drills all around Taiwan has now been normalized.
There are complaints, but nobody thinks PLA will invde Taiwan this or next week.
But they are going to be getting closer and closer and closer to Taiwan as further salami is sliced

We will end up in war sooner or later. US doesn't care
because just like in Ukraine, Americans won't be dying - except loser mercenaries

and US weapons manufacturers will get some taxpayer money
to arm Taiwan, Japan and others
while ordinary Americans wave Taiwanese flags. (Repeat Ukraine scenario)

The only people who can stop this train wreck in slow motion is the Taiwanese themselves

and it is very much in their interest to do so or
unfortunately

Taipei will end up looking like Mariupol and reunification will happen by force.
(Not to mention the dead people and those Taiwanese who will leave their home forever)


Mariupol is getting rebuilt, and so would Taipei, but it will take decades.
Not something anybody should choose, when status quo de-facto independence is perfectly fine.


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