What Rising Sign Has the Best looks

[may28gemini]

When you look at the ascendant or a planet you will always have to look at the final dispositor cause the final dispositor in a chart will always have the final say as the actual boss telling what the rest of the planets can do or not to do. A person appearance is a product and result of physical and mental health and of course his or her food consumption. It is impossible to ask an anorexic to be curvy and in her case this extreme water element off balance manifested in her mental state instead of manifesting physically as curves cause she hate it and by all mean eliminated this natural occurrence.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA yeah good point!

Karen Carpenter's rising final depositor would be Saturn or Mercury? Either way, both those planets HATE fleshiness.

As for Chloe... her final Asc depositor is Mars. Mars doesn't want to have bulk or extra weight since he cannot function optimally if he's weighed down by his own body so I can see why she stays so thin.

I'm just not convinced that water dominant charts gives curvy females. If I saw Karla's chart without seeing her pics, I would have said point blank, "this is a fat chick." Upon seeing her pictures, I know that I'm right.

 

[The_Saturnian]

How would Water POF give a female curvier figure than any other elemental POF?

Having a lot of Water in a female chart doesn't mean she'd be curvy. I've seen a lot of Water in female charts and they aren't curvy but can be rather fleshy and bloated OR can be quite straight. Look at Karen Carpenter. Cancer rising, Pisces Sun near the MC, and 5 planets in "Water houses" (4th and 8th), although I don't believe in houses having elements.

Another thing, even when well shaped and thin women are photographed, their picture gets heavily edited, so every picture Karla James is in has been totally photo edited. I'm not saying her boobs are fake, the size of it may be natural. But her body is proportionately WRONG in the natural sense- she does not have a flat, smooth stomach and her body is all over tanned when she's a pasty white British chick? HAHAHAAHA

Since she's in "public" and like any other female that's had a lot of exposure, her published stats are completely fake. It lists that her weight is 120 something to 130 pounds and her bra size is 30 H or J or K. THOSE ARE COMPLETE LIES!!! She's going to be at least around 200lbs (c'mon, be REALISTIC). She probably does have some insane cup size but the back band is definitely NOT 30. Her back is big and she has rolls of fat in the back which would not give her a 30 band, but more accurately, around 42, maybe 44. Katy Perry is 32D and weighs 130lbs and her body is tiny.

As soon as I saw this chart, I because of her Uranus exactly conjunct her Ascendant. The thought of being born with this placement tickled me. Gosh, she must have been a very unique indeed. I've just read from Wikipedia (unless it's a different Karen Carpenter), that she was an ace drummer of '70s.

 

[poyi]

I like her songs very much even I was born after her time. She had this very deep, calming but saden tone in her voice. I think in medical astrology Venus, Taurus and 2nd house govern larynx, voice so deepness could have been the condition of theses planet/sign/house they are at. Mercury and Jupiter and few other points in the chart would explain her talent in writing songs. Same configurations manifest in many ways. Her chart is AA so worth studying.

 

[Clinton Soule]

poyi stated:

In medical astrology 4th house literally rules the chest and the breasts. If you go into the details, you can see each body parts by houses that's how medical astrology works to determine which part of the body had injury or disease and so on. 7th house rules the lower back and the kidney as example. 1st house is the head and face.

I said Jupiter dignified in 4th can give bigger than average size breast. Cause I do have 38DD...

Yes William F. Lilly wrote extensively about the houses and signs describing the body for both medical reasons and to impress his clients of his abilities when they wrote him letters while he had never met them!

Years ago I dated a gal I'll never forget who was going through a divorce and soooooo womanly, she had Apollo with the Ram rising, Luna in 4H; naturally she was larger than most women with the Moon in the 4th and Cancer. And she could be such a teaser, I'd take her swimming up at the lake and she'd try to tempt me by intentionally changing in front of me. Luckily my 9th is very strong for when I learned of her husband and her's religious denomination, they were both Christians, so I having Not committed that sin with her, I got the two of them back together.

He, her husband, having Sol(sun) in Cancer, had been undergoing getting over his homosexual love affair with Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, Budweiser, Bud Light, etc.,

when he moved back in with her they invited me over to their house and after dinner he and I sat out in the jacuzzi and he humbly thanked me for not violating his marriage. For those whom don't know Cancer has troubles with alcohol and cancer males typically love big bosomed women, and she was his, not mine! This is WHY I got them back together and didn't cross that line:

"Mark 10 New International Version (NIV)
2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”
3 “What did Moses command you?” he replied.
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”
5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”

Poyi, as an Asian extraction genetic type woman what astrological factors gave you those womanly curves as you know it's Not so typical in most of the orient to my understanding?

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Yes Enquiring minds wish to know!

 

[may28gemini]

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It's called a skilled plastic surgeon.

 

[may28gemini]

As soon as I saw this chart, I because of her Uranus exactly conjunct her Ascendant. The thought of being born with this placement tickled me. Gosh, she must have been a very unique indeed. I've just read from Wikipedia (unless it's a different Karen Carpenter), that she was an ace drummer of '70s.

Yes indeed. And her Uranus is in critical degree of 0 and in a cardinal sign. Heh. That's a very strong but volatile energy. Those born with Uranus on the AC are quite electric (for better or worse) and always very unique and must march to their own beat. Of course, that's exactly what she did with her songs. But she was not happy about her looks and committed suicide (suddenly).

 

[Love2Know]

Whatever he has but he looks too perfect, Justin Clynes I believe?
Also my husband and myself - Leo risingers <3 hehehehe..ehehhehehehe
This thread started in 2007 wow.

 

[may28gemini]

Ummm...dang he does look perfect. But I detect some gayness, and when I say some, I mean a LOT. I swear, Fire sign rising men are just too hot to handle!

 

[The_Saturnian]

But she was not happy about her looks and committed suicide (suddenly).

Very Uranian indeed! Especially since it was on the Ascendant plane a possibility of 12th house influence too which would may well have explained the sudden committing of suicide.

 

[Love2Know]

Ummm...dang he does look perfect. But I detect some gayness, and when I say some, I mean a LOT. I swear, Fire sign rising men are just too hot to handle!

Yeah I kinda meant gay by "too perfect" lol that is usually the case. I have not consciously known any fire rising men besides my brother and husband hmm now I am trying to figure it out. Scorpio rising and libra rising are hotties I believe, aqua rising I know 3 women for a fact have it and are beautiful I love all 3 of them. They make me seem a bit less insane, I can almost come off normal around them, (not really).

 

[Clinton Soule]

Here is a curve ball for all of you as Charles Manson must have had both mind control and strong sexual magnetism in what took place with so many:

I just know someone is going to comment the strength of his attract came from Venus cjt sun!

But note Venus is COMBUST despite being in the 7th:

See what Tom states about Manson's Venus:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/geniture.html

Why am I bringing up this true renegade?

He had women who adored him for all the wrong reasons!

 

[poyi]

Wow didn't know this man until I google his name.

Taurus ascendant, Venus is in detriment and in combustion. Venus rules 1st and 6th.

Health, Mental illness, ascendant, 1st, 6th, 3rd, 9th, 8th, 12th, POF

1st house Taurus>Venus combusted in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus in 12th Aries>Mars in Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th again.

6th house as above begining from Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th

3rd house Gemini>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th

8th & 9th house, Jupiter in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus in 12th Aries>Mars in Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th again.

12th house Pisces>Neptune in Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th

By traditional mean, Saturn in Aquarius is the only one in his own full rulership also placed in 11th house. Simple, quincunx POF in 3rd house close to IC, private life, one of the hidden houses. Saturn rules the Moon, and square the Sun two luminaries, also square Venus the ascendant ruler. 11th house the group, community, mass of people.

Saturn in Aquarius 21 degrees 45 mins, should check if any midpoint/transit or progression hit the antisicia at 8 degrees 15 Scoprio, which is most likely the progressed Jupiter. Progressed Mercury would hit this antisicia at much younger age. When Jupiter progressed to this antisicia can also check the location of Sun and Venus if they were at Sagittarius.

 

[Love2Know]

Yet he manages to appear quite vile to me both physically and mentally.

 

[may28gemini]

I never understood what was so horrible about Charles Manson's chart. His chart is very similar to my father's. They both have the same Scorpio Sun, Aqua Moon, Taurus Rising with huge Scorpio stellium in the 7th house and detriment Scorpio Venus Via Combusta. Hey, if I could survive being raised by a man who has a similar chart to Charles Manson, maybe he's not such a bad guy? HAHAHAHAHA

But seriously, I do know intimately that someone with that chart is very brutal. You cannot be made of anything but tough stuff if you are to survive living or even being around that sort of domineering energy.

 

[Clinton Soule]

This is Maria Zarring, the natural wonder of Russia,

born:

Moscow, Russian Federation,​

November 19, 1986​

Don't know her time as yet.​

Got any leads to her horoscope?​

Russian language is sure to be a barrier!​

Height: 166 cm - 5 feet and 5 inches
Weight:
64 kg - 141 lbs Measurements: 34K-31-41

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Taurus or leo rising, maybe cancer or luna is tau on ascendant?????????

 

[Zarathu]

OMG! Clinton! Its a wonder she can even stand upright!

What exactly does this have to do with astrology? I think we've moved to the pin-up board. Clearly we need a special section just for your pictures which are getting more and more risque with every post.

At some point she's going to need reduction surgery.

 

[Love2Know]

Good observation

 

[Clinton Soule]

Zarathu:

What exactly does this have to do with astrology?

I'm in the difficult process of writing the TALK SHOW HOST & Model, Mia Zarring, about her exact birthtime; but she is russian and not well versed in English!

Thought someone would already have her time of birth as she is presently a major russian celebrity!

All ascendants can and have been seen attractive or good looking by someone; and note the asc., aspects, etc. ...

Like I have a friend who thinks women with only fried eggs on their ribcages are knockouts, he is repulsed by ample chested gals while I prefer womanly natural curves!

zarathu:

At some point she's going to need reduction surgery.

I hope not, as like I have a Cancer rising layman who was an F cup who went and had a reduction only because she was stared at constantly and her husband was enraged having Sun in the 4H of her act without his knowlege. As Poyi point out the 4th is the breasts!

Love2know:

Good observation

Sounds like a lil female jealousy as like between the below starlets:

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Relax, I've heard many males react the same when Arnold Swartznegger walked into the room in his bodybuilding heyday!

 

[Clinton Soule]

Well some may think Arnold's asc. is attractive:

Note Luna is not in a great place being in capricorn, her detriment!

Moon(asc, lord) squ Neptune, yet separates from a trine to N. Node!

Aphroditein the 1H separates from trine to Zeus, and has an applying from a trine to M.C.!
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[dioskouris]

What's troubling to me about this thread at the moment is the flaunting of female subjects that aggrandize the stereotype of feminine attractiveness, to the levels of fantasticating pornographic exoticism or fetishism. That is, saying a woman is a "wonder" or "beautiful" based solely on the quality (or quantity) of her bust, hips, and other "stats", is just an overly sexualized version of what one would see at a dog show. It reminds me very much of the 'Hottentot Venus' story in it's implication.

That said, I am a heterosexual male (so no "female jealousy" here), and I do enjoy ample bosoms (perhaps it's my 8th house Mars in Cancer). But I feel and think that this fantasticating of a couple way exaggerated physical qualities does damage to the very broad concept of beauty, and femininity.