What could be the cause of my sexual perversions?

[Kayen]

OK, so I have some strange fetishes which I am very ashamed of.

However I can't understand why I am sometimes aroused by such things (nothing illegal btw).
I can control it if I want to using my own rational thinking, but this is usually only for a few days before my urges tend to 'take over'.

I have studied astrology (although I still consider myself a complete newb) but I cant seem to make sense of my chart and figure where it all goes pear shaped for me regarding this situation (my sexuality).

any Ideas?

 

[NicholasH]

pluto in the fifth house. in the intercepted sign of scorpio. also aquarius on the cusp of the 8th. i have aquarius on the 5th and i can be sexually perverted myself.

dont be ashamed, that will only cause you to have more issues around this. accept it as part of your psyche.

pluto in the fifth, intercepted, can show

I can control it if I want to using my own rational thinking, but this is usually only for a few days before my urges tend to 'take over'.

like with all pluto matters, i say check out some sort of therapist who you trust to talk about all of your desires, "perversions", etc... with pluto its important to become conscious of its energies.
you use your conscience mind to surpress these urges, but then they came back. you must allow these urges to come forth and be understood, so you dont blindly act on them.

 

[Claire19]

pluto in the fifth house. in the intercepted sign of scorpio. also aquarius on the cusp of the 8th. i have aquarius on the 5th and i can be sexually perverted myself.

dont be ashamed, that will only cause you to have more issues around this. accept it as part of your psyche.

pluto in the fifth, intercepted, can show

like with all pluto matters, i say check out some sort of therapist who you trust to talk about all of your desires, "perversions", etc... with pluto its important to become conscious of its energies.
you use your conscience mind to surpress these urges, but then they came back. you must allow these urges to come forth and be understood, so you dont blindly act on them.

As the nature of the perversions has not been stated it is hard to discern what may be the causes but the comments here are very good.

 

[Courtney Love]

Am i being obvious when I assumed that Uranus would be hitting mars or venus? I know that we're supposed to be using Saturn as the 8th house ruler , but if we use uranus to represent aquarius, or at least as a co-ruler, you have potential for some surprising sexual practices, I'm guessing.

I see that people are looking to the 5th house, but why not the 8th for sexual habits?

 

[Modcleopatra]

Ugh. No offense, but in my opinion, most so-called sexual perversions are just unique forms of sexual expression... which everyone has.

So you like shoes, or banana peels, or the moo-ing of a cow... as long as its not little kids, or dead people, or animals (meaning, as long as what is part of the sexual fetish is either inanimate (shoes and banana peels), consenting (i.e. not dead or an animal), benign (even if weird, like cows moo-ing), and able to approach the sex act as a whole person (i.e., not a child), then it's FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE. IT IS NOT PERVERTED. The term is, how should I say this, ARCHAIC.

Anyway, I have Venus square Uranus natally, with Venus in the 8th house, and Uranus in the 12th, virgo and sag respectively.

People might blame my queer (read: lesbian/gay/bisexual in ARCHAIC terms) sexuality on this, and call it a sexual perversion. It is not, it is loving, sometimes same-sex, sexual and romantic expression. And I personally don't think Venus square Uranus makes someone "sexually perverted." I think outer society (Uranus) reads one's sexuality (Venus, and Mars), as perverted in ACCORDANCE WITH SOCIAL NORMS. Meaning, what's "perverted" now, might not be in a hundred years.

I mean, 200 years ago, recreational sex was "perverted."

But if it bothers you, whatever your sexuality might be so inclined to be like, therapy can help...

just my two (or three) cents. Can't help myself when this topic comes up...

Mod!

 

[HeyPlayGirl]

hi,
i'm new to astrology but something tells me that yod with mars at the apex in the 12th could have something to do with it?

with mars + pluto + neptune, i can imagine ur into some taboo (pluto) role playing/fantasies (neptune) of a sexual nature (mars) that you're keeping secret or dealing with mentally(12th house=subconcious, secrets).

i don't know which house represents sex. ive heard the 5th and the 8th. regardless, your 5th house has pluto and your 8th house is in the sign of aquarius whose ruler is uranus (which is the odd quirky planet IMO) so that might be influencing your "perversions" as well.

you should read up on yods, they get mixed explanations. to my understanding whatever planet is at the point and it's house (which would be mars in the 12th in your case) is knid of like a focal point of energy.

if i'm wrong about all this please dont btie my head of!!
anyway hope i helped!!

 

[CapAquaPis]

In relation to the topic: I believe my natal star chart points out a possible romance in my life either is a pregnant woman or a single mother. On my star chart, the high or true node is in Leo and there were two full moons in Feb. 1980 on the 1st (moon in Leo) and 29th on leap year night, when the moon was in Virgo. The body parts ruled most by Cancer, Leo and Virgo are the breast/chest (by cancer), heart/front (by Leo) and womb/hips (by Virgo)...all seem to relate to the woman's body where pregnancy takes place may affect me on having a fetish to pregnancy. My 5th sign-Scorpio and 8th sign-Aquarius may well explain my maiseiophilia.

The sun and moon in Aquarius, Cancer ascendant/rising (2:21pm PST), the presence of Venus in Aries moving into Taurus in the MC (highest point) as strong feminine/maternal influences, the Mars-Jupiter-Saturn in Virgo with my ruling planet Uranus in Scorpio symbolizes strong love and Pluto in Libra being the 8th sign (and 5th house on my natal star chart), Mercury is in Pisces and Neptune in Sagittarius (my Dad's sign) are signs ruled by planets Jupiter or Neptune...indicates the oddest possibility for me in future romance is a woman carrying a child from a broken previous relationship. How terrible would it be for someone I just met. but the presence of Chiron in Taurus, yet lack of a planet in my 12th house-Gemini (an air sign like Aquarius) is rather interesting.

You know, I have a healthy attitude about women and their pregnancy is a symbol of feminity, natural beauty and the positives of sexuality when she's in love with her man. Pregnancy fetishism or maiseiophilia focuses mainly on the woman's changing body as a result of pregnancy, because her becoming a mother will show and well...her belly grow and her face glows. She got to be willing to start a new romantic relationship firsthand. To have my Mom and Bro to be Taurans, plus my Dad (Dec. 17) and his first daughter/ my half-sis to be Sagitarians (her B-date Dec. 21 cusp day Sag/Capricorn) and my nephew (Jan. 18 cusp Cap/Aquarius) indicates the importance of family by blood and by heart.

 

[RaptInReverie]

As the nature of the perversions has not been stated it is hard to discern what may be the causes but the comments here are very good.

I agree with Claire19. More information is needed, although I understand if you're not comfortable discussing them publicly. Would it help if I told you that I had horribly perverted dreams when the Moon is transiting Scorpio? I have Pluto in Scorpio as well, and my guess is that this placement is somehow involved.

 

[virgo18]

I find more than one thing that can "incline" you to such thing you say to have:

Sexual perversions are mental. I see you mercury very challenged, although that doesn't make a person "perverted", but maybe strange fetishes.
Mercury, Venus, and Sun are in conjunction under the power of the sexual planet: Mars which is living in your 12th house and in mutual reception with mercury. Remember 12th house represent also things we hide in our lives.

A lot of people can have strange sexual attractions: But not all the people can carry out them openly, because of feelings and empathy (MOON)
I dont know if you carry out that stuff you say to have, but your Moon is very challenged, in the sign of detriment and with a conjunction to saturn. This makes a person very cold in their feelings and they don't feel much guilt about their actions.
Venus is also very challenged and in detriment, ruling the 5th house of romance and creativity, Venus in Aries is very very SEXUAL. The same as sexual as a Venus in Scorpio, but without the feelings of scorpio, Aries Venus is more shallow in her feelings.
Pluto lives in the 5th so that can lead to find sex as a hobby or something to have fun.
Mercury is elevated in a conjunction with Sun and Venus so I think thats why you are concerned about this.

 

[CapAquaPis]

Virgo18, thanks for further explaining my fetish or sexual attraction from your analysis of my natal star chart.

I never think of dating a pregnant woman, but I would like to experiment in my sexual desires the right way and ensure she's not offended, nor want to make her uncomfortable (I can try, just a regular LTR if she so desires). I wonder she shares the same fetish or POV about pregnancy or giving birth in a semi-erotic manner, but that's an opinion we have to share or the relationship won't happen, not to use her (or misuse me).

I can say by the star chart says: A partnership with a woman may be more friend than wife, or something tells me a hint of a polyamorous bond (a married woman and husband mutually agrees on her seeing me). It's tough and costly for me to have a marriage, but I witnessed my parents' divorce when I was 7 and my brother became a single Dad 11 years ago while he was a high school senior, but his relationship with the ex-GF: she never seen their son in 8 years.

I never thought I will be a biological father, also family history of mental disorders, alcohol abuse, diabetes, metabolic disorders and lack of close family plus racial/ethnic problems: my father's family all the way in France and my mother's side is of Cherokee/Osage Indian descent, thus I have a French name and some inherited Native American ethnological features.

It comes to show not everyone wants a kid, nor able to have one and in some cases, have an inborne (not mental, can be genetic if there's a bio-evolutionary cause) sexual orientation to a woman during mid stage or late pregnancy.

 

[virgo18]

Virgo18, thanks for further explaining my fetish or sexual attraction from your analysis of my natal star chart.

I never think of dating a pregnant woman, but I would like to experiment in my sexual desires the right way and ensure she's not offended, nor want to make her uncomfortable (I can try, just a regular LTR if she so desires). I wonder she shares the same fetish or POV about pregnancy or giving birth in a semi-erotic manner, but that's an opinion we have to share or the relationship won't happen, not to use her (or misuse me).

I can say by the star chart says: A partnership with a woman may be more friend than wife, or something tells me a hint of a polyamorous bond (a married woman and husband mutually agrees on her seeing me). It's tough and costly for me to have a marriage, but I witnessed my parents' divorce when I was 7 and my brother became a single Dad 11 years ago while he was a high school senior, but his relationship with the ex-GF: she never seen their son in 8 years.

I never thought I will be a biological father, also family history of mental disorders, alcohol abuse, diabetes, metabolic disorders and lack of close family plus racial/ethnic problems: my father's family all the way in France and my mother's side is of Cherokee/Osage Indian descent, thus I have a French name and some inherited Native American ethnological features.

It comes to show not everyone wants a kid, nor able to have one and in some cases, have an inborne (not mental, can be genetic if there's a bio-evolutionary cause) sexual orientation to a woman during mid stage or late pregnancy.

The chart tells us an overall of our personalities. But remember that personality is inherited. You should take a look to your family background. For more information.

 

[felkin]

Aquarius is the ruler of your 8th House. Dun Dun Dun...sex. Aquarius, by nature is known to be one of the kinkiest in the zodiac. So basically how you get initmate and show up in sex is ruled by Aquarius. If it bothers you a lot, then go talk to a therapist. Or Google it. Something else that may be helpful is to try to get when this first started. This has to be some sort of comfort for you, otherwise you wouldn't be doing it.

Pluto points to what is hidden that can transform us. Pluto also shows us our obsessions and what we take really, really deep. Pluto in the 5th house to me, would point to maybe you only do this in your home? Scoprio, your ruler of the 5th house is touched by the planet of transformation and Scorpio rules the genitals. Scoprio likes things dark, wet and mysterious. But an evolved Scorpio is all about trasformation. Does it occur to you that maybe all of this is to help get you to your next level in life? Maybe you looking at this and accepting it on some level is your path.

Bob Marks is great for chart designs and what they mean. Stelliums are concentrated energy. If you have a lot of planets in one sign, most everything has to pass through that.

Blessings.

 

[StillOne]

OP, you may consider looking at your chart in Equal house as some of your houses are really large. It could impact quite significantly. For example, the apex of the yod could potentially move to the 11th house.

I'd research your Yod as HPG suggested. Especially with the apex receiving quite a bit of energy from your aries stellium also! That position is intense... The apex is the position that needs to be understood. I'd suggest taking some time to contemplate it as it can be quite confusing which tends to be the nature of the quincunx aspects.

Also, Pluto is a Singleton in the Water element as it is the only "planet" here. So, since it's in Scorpio where it's quite comfortable, the energies can be strong here.

Also interesting to note is the largely unaspected Moon. That should be looked at. I think that conjunction with Saturn appears a bit weak.

 

[CapAquaPis]

I want to add pregnancy fetishism isn't entirely perverse nor immoral, many ancient cultures and religions other than Judeo-Christianity dominant in the western world: They always beautified, emphasized not condemned, or sexualize pregnancy andr female bodily "mother" figures. I think its my upbringing not religiously, but my parents were Christian (Dad a Catholic from France and Mom a Baptist of parents from the South or Midwest US) never viewed women in an inferior role, but they treat pregnancy like a personal taboo or taught me as a male, not to be privy in female issues probably out of concern being politically correct or respect people's feelings about controversial topics like sex or gender.

There are some astrological aspects in a number of zodiac signs tied to maternity as a major symbol of femininity, was in sort, agreed with the connection of pregnancy from sexual intimacy, procreation, enlarged breasts or other private parts. The earliest religious sense finds the female body have "god-like" powers and was of importance though not sexual in polytheistic or pro-feminine/matrilineal religions in prehistory of mankind. A sexual prudent/puritan society or male-dominant/ patriarchal religion seems to lowered and tried to censor the image of pregnancy or female sexuality, and astrologers believe heightens the risk of one have a sexual fetish to pregnancy or related subject matter.

 

[astrologer50]

YOu do all realise this OLD thread is from 2009. capaquapis, perhaps a better idea is to start your own thread AND post your chart as we are all visually orentiated rather than just data...

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[CapAquaPis]

YOu do all realise this OLD thread is from 2009. capaquapis, perhaps a better idea is to start your own thread AND post your chart as we are all visually orentiated rather than just data...

Yes, A50 (understood)...but here's the most recent and still open thread on the topic about sexual fetishes/perversions. I had virgo18 offer his 2 cents of advice and I read the thread about astrological origins of sexual fetishes many of us have, but most of us keep our personal turnons to outselves. It's good we get to express them here in a clean legitimate way.