What are you learning from COVID?

Oddity

Oddity

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The states in India that have had success have been the ones that provided the ivermectin/vit d/doxycycline/something else I can't remember to not only the infected person, but to everyone in the household. Not every state in India is faring well, even with masks.


Hell, we're not faring well here at 90+% vaxxed and masks for all - there's a 2300$ fine for not wearing one in public buildings (or even in the common areas of apartment buildings), so we do it. I'm not convinced - I think it might lower the inoculum a bit if you get a faceful of virus, but that's about it.


I wouldn't take ivermectin prophylactically regularly, but I do take it the night before doctor's appointments, given that here that means sitting in a windowless waiting area with a whole bunch of sick people. I would start taking it regularly if I felt symptoms coming on, though. I think it did help when I got sick, because my case was quite mild compared to most, and the worst of it was over in a week.



Early treatment really seems to be the key here.
 
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david starling

Well-known member
Oddity said:
The states in India that have had success have been the ones that provided the ivermectin/vit d/doxycycline/something else I can't remember to not only the infected person, but to everyone in the household. Not every state in India is faring well, even with masks.


Hell, we're not faring well here at 90+% vaxxed and masks for all - there's a 2300$ fine for not wearing one in public buildings (or even in the common areas of apartment buildings), so we do it. I'm not convinced - I think it might lower the inoculum a bit if you get a faceful of virus, but that's about it.


I wouldn't take ivermectin prophylactically regularly, but I do take it the night before doctor's appointments, given that here that means sitting in a windowless waiting area with a whole bunch of sick people. I would start taking it regularly if I felt symptoms coming on, though. I think it did help when I got sick, because my case was quite mild compared to most, and the worst of it was over in a week.



Early treatment really seems to be the key here.
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India, surprisingly, doesn't have 5G yet. The success of Ivermectin there will be put to the test once they do have it.

It occurs to me that the studies showing that Ivermectin is of little or no use against Covid-19 were conducted in areas already contaminated by 5G radiation.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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chay said:
Then we have then poorest countries who can't get enough of the vaccine yet.
You can't deny
that countries where the population is immunised against many illnesses
people have a better quality of life and longevity.
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keep in mind that
the poorest countries lack of hygiene facilities
such as
limited
- if any :smile:
access to a piped water supply
when
frequent handwashing is mandated
as a basic protection against covid
places the poorest countries
in a situation
where the vast majority of the population
lacks suitable facilities for recommended frequent handwashing

and so
not only is better quality of life and longevity in wealthier nations
clearly related to access to good nutrition
but also to
access to clean toilet facilities
and
access to fresh running water

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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Oddity said:
The states in India that have had success have been the ones that provided the ivermectin/vit d/doxycycline/something else I can't remember to not only the infected person, but to everyone in the household. Not every state in India is faring well, even with masks.

Hell, we're not faring well here at 90+% vaxxed and masks for all - there's a 2300$ fine for not wearing one in public buildings (or even in the common areas of apartment buildings), so we do it. I'm not convinced - I think it might lower the inoculum a bit if you get a faceful of virus, but that's about it.

I wouldn't take ivermectin prophylactically regularly, but I do take it the night before doctor's appointments, given that here that means sitting in a windowless waiting area with a whole bunch of sick people. I would start taking it regularly if I felt symptoms coming on, though. I think it did help when I got sick, because my case was quite mild compared to most, and the worst of it was over in a week.

Early treatment really seems to be the key here.
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keep in mind also
World Health Assembly’s 194 members unanimously agreed
to ensure universal access to water, sanitation, and hygiene
in all hospitals and other health facilities
– since then


the pandemic has highlighted just how vital these basic services are in controlling infection :smile:


Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General
has described soap and water as akin to personal protective equipment
and
absolutely fundamental for stopping the spread of COVID-19.
Last December the WHO estimated that
to bring clean water, handwashing facilities and decent toilets
to the health care centres in the poorest countries would cost just $3.6billion
– which equates to around an hour and a half’s worth
of what the whole world’s spent in a year on the Covid-19 response.

WaterAid have been speaking to health workers, patients and families
about the challenges of keeping themselves and patients safe
without soap and water to wash your hands
 or somewhere decent to go to the toilet.
Dr. Chandrashekhar Prasad
Deputy Superintendent of Jai Prakash Narayan Hospital in Gaya, Bihar,
in India

which is being hit hard by a surge in COVID-19 cases

said:

“...There is an overall lack of sanitisation across the hospital
with no cleaning of wards
and
inadequate measures to dispose of bio-medical waste.
As a result
a few sanitation workers tested positive for Covid-19 recently.
Basic handwashing stations are missing at the vaccination and testing facilities
and patients are not displaying essential Covid-19 appropriate behaviours....”

Nurse, Lalmani Devi, who also works at the hospital
added:
“...There are very few functional toilets in the hospital premises.
The rest are either broken or lying in a state of disrepair.

The handwashing stations do not have any provision for liquid soap or sanitisers either....”


Water Aid is calling for global leaders to prioritise basic hygiene for health care facilities
as part of COVID-19 pandemic recovery plans.



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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
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Against a backdrop of international struggles
to bring the virus under control
In the world’s poorest countries
half of all hospitals and clinics have no clean water on site :smile:
This data shows that across the world
almost 2 billion people depend on healthcare facilities without basic water services
putting them at greater risk of catching COVID-19
and other deadly diseases






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chay

Banned
JUPITERASC said:
keep in mind that
the poorest countries lack of hygiene facilities
such as
limited
- if any :smile:
access to a piped water supply
when
frequent handwashing is mandated
as a basic protection against covid
places the poorest countries
in a situation
where the vast majority of the population
lacks suitable facilities for recommended frequent handwashing

and so
not only is better quality of life and longevity in wealthier nations
clearly related to access to good nutrition
but also to
access to clean toilet facilities
and
access to fresh running water

.
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Maybe Republican Trucmpers have poor hygiene as well then because they are getting Covid in large numbers in those states.
 
Opal

Opal

Premium Member
JUPITERASC said:
keep in mind also
World Health Assembly’s 194 members unanimously agreed
to ensure universal access to water, sanitation, and hygiene
in all hospitals and other health facilities
– since then


the pandemic has highlighted just how vital these basic services are in controlling infection :smile:


Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General
has described soap and water as akin to personal protective equipment
and
absolutely fundamental for stopping the spread of COVID-19.
Last December the WHO estimated that
to bring clean water, handwashing facilities and decent toilets
to the health care centres in the poorest countries would cost just $3.6billion
– which equates to around an hour and a half’s worth
of what the whole world’s spent in a year on the Covid-19 response.

WaterAid have been speaking to health workers, patients and families
about the challenges of keeping themselves and patients safe
without soap and water to wash your hands
 or somewhere decent to go to the toilet.
Dr. Chandrashekhar Prasad
Deputy Superintendent of Jai Prakash Narayan Hospital in Gaya, Bihar,
in India

which is being hit hard by a surge in COVID-19 cases

said:

“...There is an overall lack of sanitisation across the hospital
with no cleaning of wards
and
inadequate measures to dispose of bio-medical waste.
As a result
a few sanitation workers tested positive for Covid-19 recently.
Basic handwashing stations are missing at the vaccination and testing facilities
and patients are not displaying essential Covid-19 appropriate behaviours....”

Nurse, Lalmani Devi, who also works at the hospital
added:
“...There are very few functional toilets in the hospital premises.
The rest are either broken or lying in a state of disrepair.

The handwashing stations do not have any provision for liquid soap or sanitisers either....”


Water Aid is calling for global leaders to prioritise basic hygiene for health care facilities
as part of COVID-19 pandemic recovery plans.



.
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Real aid.

Clean water equals healthy people.

Real math.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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NEW SCIENTIFIC STUDY:

Natural Immunity Persists For MORE THAN 12 MONTHS After Infection
Natural antibodies last a lifetime
and
your natural immune system can kick start them again at any time :smile:

Each strain shares some similarities. It's those similarities
that can still trigger your immune system.
We have been exposed to 4 different strains of covid pre-2019
for decades.
They allowed most to have an immune response to the new strain that hit us 2019.

If it was about health
they would close off illegal immigration.
they would allow for natural immunity and NOT MANDATE this jab.

Facts Matter
Creepy Joe's urgency for forced vaxxes, is
so the unvaxxed won't see the vaccinated dropping like flies.

These mandates are not law. They skirt around the law
by not having the courts hear cases and arguments
most importantly
millions of people would have died in the streets.
literally NOTHING would be open
and the world economy would collapse.
it's been a farce since the beginning
suddenly an experimental treatment is ok for every human on the planet.

All common sense went out the window.
in New York you can't eat without ID but you can vote without it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8KZMBFQcc




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C

chay

Banned
JUPITERASC said:
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NEW SCIENTIFIC STUDY:

Natural Immunity Persists For MORE THAN 12 MONTHS After Infection
Natural antibodies last a lifetime
and
your natural immune system can kick start them again at any time :smile:

Each strain shares some similarities. It's those similarities
that can still trigger your immune system.
We have been exposed to 4 different strains of covid pre-2019
for decades.
They allowed most to have an immune response to the new strain that hit us 2019.

If it was about health
they would close off illegal immigration.
they would allow for natural immunity and NOT MANDATE this jab.

Facts Matter
Creepy Joe's urgency for forced vaxxes, is
so the unvaxxed won't see the vaccinated dropping like flies.

These mandates are not law. They skirt around the law
by not having the courts hear cases and arguments
most importantly
millions of people would have died in the streets.
literally NOTHING would be open
and the world economy would collapse.
it's been a farce since the beginning
suddenly an experimental treatment is ok for every human on the planet.

All common sense went out the window.
in New York you can't eat without ID but you can vote without it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8KZMBFQcc




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More irresponsible misinformation contributing to death and suffering. Shame on you.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
NEW SCIENTIFIC STUDY:

Natural Immunity Persists For MORE THAN 12 MONTHS After Infection
Natural antibodies last a lifetime
and
your natural immune system can kick start them again at any time :smile:

Each strain shares some similarities. It's those similarities
that can still trigger your immune system.
We have been exposed to 4 different strains of covid pre-2019
for decades.
They allowed most to have an immune response to the new strain that hit us 2019.

If it was about health
they would close off illegal immigration.
they would allow for natural immunity and NOT MANDATE this jab.

Facts Matter
Creepy Joe's urgency for forced vaxxes, is
so the unvaxxed won't see the vaccinated dropping like flies.

These mandates are not law. They skirt around the law
by not having the courts hear cases and arguments
most importantly
millions of people would have died in the streets.
literally NOTHING would be open
and the world economy would collapse.
it's been a farce since the beginning
suddenly an experimental treatment is ok for every human on the planet.

All common sense went out the window.
in New York you can't eat without ID but you can vote without it.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8KZMBFQcc


reliable NEW SCIENTIFIC STUDY study :smile:




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david starling

Well-known member
JUPITERASC said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8KZMBFQcc


reliable NEW SCIENTIFIC STUDY study :smile:




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This "reliable study" disproves ITSELF by ignoring the over 700,000 fatalities from the virus in the U.S. alone, and going on 5 Million worldwide. There's an average of 20,000 fatalities a DAY in the U.S.

ALSO, the "dropping like flies" claim, regarding those who have been vaccinated, puts this so-called "reliable study" right into the Looney tunes garbage bin!
 
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