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<blockquote data-quote="piercethevale" data-source="post: 1147016" data-attributes="member: 5785"><p>Well, now I suspected I might also find this in your natal chart but put it aside for the amount of research it required and that the same deal has to do with this also applying to my own natal chart, but a certain degree of uncertainty remains as of yet [Oh me of a bit less faith than one would think I would have by now.... or something as like that. But I've also yet to fully figure out what it means, and a few other questions I have] and I was more likely to have bet it wasn't going to show up in association with your chart...but ... it did.</p><p></p><p>This is about that "Star" and while what Rudhyar wrote in his book about it seems to imply that it would be tied in with the Asc. [As He also seemed to imply that the Asc. would be the 1st degree of Aries... and whether people want to believe He was predicting that the natal chart for Yeshu'a/Jesus were ever to be produced that it would have as it's Asc. the 1st degree of Aries AND that this "Star" was also to be assumed to have the Asc. as one of its points, is kind of a moot point. As the 25th degree of Leo, my M.C.'s location along with that of my Part of Fortune, just so happens to be one of the points of a Grand Quintile constructed in perfect symmetry with the 1st degree of Aries.</p><p></p><p>As he Sabian Symbols involved with any of the 72 perfectly symmetrical Grand Quintiles [a pentagram] that can be found in the Zodiac each of those is the perfect plot outline for a story...as Marc Edmond Jones discovered not long after He first obtained them, as he made a very lucrative second income from writing and selling plot scripts to Hollywood beginning in 1928 or 29.</p><p></p><p>It wasn't until just a few years ago that I read that Rudolf Steiner had said that the reincarnation of Parsival would happen once the completion of the 1200 year cycle of Venus Sun conjunctions had happened. </p><p></p><p>A Venus Sun conjunction [superior] to the 7th degree of Scorpio, one of the two quintiles of the five points that make up a pentagram, or Grand Quintile [ and there's two in bi-quintile aspect], to my natal M.C.,in the 25th of Leo did occur on October 30, 1998, a Venus Sun inferior conj. at the 25th degree of Leo then occurred on August 18, 2007, then another superior conjunction at the 19th deg. of Capricorn om the 9th of January in 2018, and another will occur again at the 19th of Capricorn, superior, on this January 9th, 2022, a superior at the 13th of Gemini on June 2, 2032 and the last point of that pentagram on March 30, 2033 in the 1st of Aries.</p><p></p><p>As your M.C. is in the very next degree of Leo, right next to mine, I checked it out tonight...and, sure enough. The first was in the 8th of Scorpio, inferior, Oct. 31, 2002, then on August 18, 2003, a superior conj., at the 26th of Leo your M.C., and on June 3, 2020 an inferior conj. in the 14th of Gemini and then the next shows up on March 21 2037 a superior conj. at the 2nd of Aries...but I can't see one in this table for the 20th of Capricorn and why such a big gap in time from June 2020 until then?</p><p></p><p>The answer, best that I can figure is that one of those two listed as being both in the 19th is wrong and that one of them is actually in the 20th degree of Cap. As the table I have gives the exact [to the minute of a degree] position for Jan. 9, 2018 as 18° Cap. 57' and the one for this week as 18° Cap 43', I have to suspect that the one in 2018 was miscalculated and that it likely did occur in the 20th degree instead.</p><p></p><p>It will take some time working with the computer ephemeris to ascertain the solution to this, and I'm rather exhausted from what has been a busy and hectic December and Holiday season. I might not even get to that this week, but seeing as this next one will be this coming Sunday and is one of the two in question [as it is possible that this next conj. was listed wrongly] and that it also involves my chart, I'll surely have some answer before then, but feel free to find out for yourself as I'm not guaranteeing anything, and considering the large gap in time I mentioned it may well be the one that concerns yourself.</p><p></p><p>Inferior conjunctions are those that occur when Venus is retrograde and Venus is between us and the Sun, the superior conjunctions are just the opposite.</p><p></p><p>Here's a link o the table of all the Venus Sun conjunctions from 1900 to 2050. <a href="https://alabe.com/VeCycle-1.pdf" target="_blank">https://alabe.com/VeCycle-1.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>As to what Rudolf Steiner wrote about Parsival, I found the tables for these conjunctions 1200 years ago and , yep, the same conjunctions were occurring almost exactly 1200 years to the day before I was born. The exact span of time is 1235 or it may be 1225 years, around there... I forget. But it's what the Mayans used to keep their calendars accurate and is a more accurate system than the Europeans were using. </p><p>I lost the link to the older tables.. if anyone wants to see them you'll just have to hunt them down yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="piercethevale, post: 1147016, member: 5785"] Well, now I suspected I might also find this in your natal chart but put it aside for the amount of research it required and that the same deal has to do with this also applying to my own natal chart, but a certain degree of uncertainty remains as of yet [Oh me of a bit less faith than one would think I would have by now.... or something as like that. But I've also yet to fully figure out what it means, and a few other questions I have] and I was more likely to have bet it wasn't going to show up in association with your chart...but ... it did. This is about that "Star" and while what Rudhyar wrote in his book about it seems to imply that it would be tied in with the Asc. [As He also seemed to imply that the Asc. would be the 1st degree of Aries... and whether people want to believe He was predicting that the natal chart for Yeshu'a/Jesus were ever to be produced that it would have as it's Asc. the 1st degree of Aries AND that this "Star" was also to be assumed to have the Asc. as one of its points, is kind of a moot point. As the 25th degree of Leo, my M.C.'s location along with that of my Part of Fortune, just so happens to be one of the points of a Grand Quintile constructed in perfect symmetry with the 1st degree of Aries. As he Sabian Symbols involved with any of the 72 perfectly symmetrical Grand Quintiles [a pentagram] that can be found in the Zodiac each of those is the perfect plot outline for a story...as Marc Edmond Jones discovered not long after He first obtained them, as he made a very lucrative second income from writing and selling plot scripts to Hollywood beginning in 1928 or 29. It wasn't until just a few years ago that I read that Rudolf Steiner had said that the reincarnation of Parsival would happen once the completion of the 1200 year cycle of Venus Sun conjunctions had happened. A Venus Sun conjunction [superior] to the 7th degree of Scorpio, one of the two quintiles of the five points that make up a pentagram, or Grand Quintile [ and there's two in bi-quintile aspect], to my natal M.C.,in the 25th of Leo did occur on October 30, 1998, a Venus Sun inferior conj. at the 25th degree of Leo then occurred on August 18, 2007, then another superior conjunction at the 19th deg. of Capricorn om the 9th of January in 2018, and another will occur again at the 19th of Capricorn, superior, on this January 9th, 2022, a superior at the 13th of Gemini on June 2, 2032 and the last point of that pentagram on March 30, 2033 in the 1st of Aries. As your M.C. is in the very next degree of Leo, right next to mine, I checked it out tonight...and, sure enough. The first was in the 8th of Scorpio, inferior, Oct. 31, 2002, then on August 18, 2003, a superior conj., at the 26th of Leo your M.C., and on June 3, 2020 an inferior conj. in the 14th of Gemini and then the next shows up on March 21 2037 a superior conj. at the 2nd of Aries...but I can't see one in this table for the 20th of Capricorn and why such a big gap in time from June 2020 until then? The answer, best that I can figure is that one of those two listed as being both in the 19th is wrong and that one of them is actually in the 20th degree of Cap. As the table I have gives the exact [to the minute of a degree] position for Jan. 9, 2018 as 18° Cap. 57' and the one for this week as 18° Cap 43', I have to suspect that the one in 2018 was miscalculated and that it likely did occur in the 20th degree instead. It will take some time working with the computer ephemeris to ascertain the solution to this, and I'm rather exhausted from what has been a busy and hectic December and Holiday season. I might not even get to that this week, but seeing as this next one will be this coming Sunday and is one of the two in question [as it is possible that this next conj. was listed wrongly] and that it also involves my chart, I'll surely have some answer before then, but feel free to find out for yourself as I'm not guaranteeing anything, and considering the large gap in time I mentioned it may well be the one that concerns yourself. Inferior conjunctions are those that occur when Venus is retrograde and Venus is between us and the Sun, the superior conjunctions are just the opposite. Here's a link o the table of all the Venus Sun conjunctions from 1900 to 2050. [url]https://alabe.com/VeCycle-1.pdf[/url] As to what Rudolf Steiner wrote about Parsival, I found the tables for these conjunctions 1200 years ago and , yep, the same conjunctions were occurring almost exactly 1200 years to the day before I was born. The exact span of time is 1235 or it may be 1225 years, around there... I forget. But it's what the Mayans used to keep their calendars accurate and is a more accurate system than the Europeans were using. I lost the link to the older tables.. if anyone wants to see them you'll just have to hunt them down yourself. [/QUOTE]
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