Jeremy said:I am frequently counselling [...] to think about how they might counsel others with the same problems; this appears to be an extremely effective way of bringing the Chiron wound into the light because invariably they discover that they have real wisdom on the subject which they only become aware of when they are hypothesising about how they would counsel somebody
flea said:I wonder if we will be seeing any stories in the media regarding such wounds.
Flea said:I am not sure what EJ means by deskilling astrology... is that where the client can really see their own wound and so can counsell themselves to a degree?
It would.Flea said:Would be cool to have a thread about chiron placements.
Flea said:I kind of think Pisces could also be about a sense of individuality that is lost, being more aware of and part of the continuum. I always had a faith in something bigger, just not able to identify that with human organisations. I was fine when I went my own path, yet still struggle with individuality and a sense of self?
Radu said:As EJ said, I find the process of self-understanding my personal Chiron wound quite difficult. This is because I'm constantly using an approach based on other people's patterns of dealing with that topic. I haven't found my own yet.
This is why I was particularly inspired by Jeremy's comment:
A perfect meditation topic!
Jeremy said:As for Chiron in Capricorn, one interpretation of that particular placement according to Lass is a wound of being igonored or not taken seriously
Julie said:I am not sure I will ever really get the meaning of my Chiron in Taurus/9th...... Probably has a lot to do with my Venus/Jupiter 5th/11th axis, yet Chiron squares my Jupiter in 11th.
flea said:..... insights from others always help you see things from different persepctives...so mypotential gift of chiron maybe an understanding the imperceptible wounds a child experiences so deeply yet is of no concern to the parents because it is beyond their ken is some way.....
EJ53 said:This seems pedantic, but my view is that all psychological/chiron wounds stem not from what happens to us but from how we felt at the time or fear will happen in the future.
tsquare said:I don't know if it's better to dig for this bugger in a chart, or through simply working with recalls of ones past, starting there instead....
If one uses the chart I have had the theory that mabie the first chiron oppositon may show some insight into the first this life moment of the deep wound that may repeat itself as it roles along the chart, showing up specifically in squares, mabie easy times durring trines.
Mabie by checking out that specific aspect, then by a loose form of date and locate through concious recall....
There is also the problem of this being a deep wound....it can be vey painfull....But I would say confronting the first moment of the wound would either cool this wound off or handle it for eternity.......yet is one ready for that?
....it is a bit like learning from a failure...what good does it do?
It seems to be similar to an unconfronted personal aspect of life, in which one seeks to escape the wound and having experienced it, while extroverting it on those that have a similar, even if they may have similar, "saving" them from the trouble that "they" have had, when it is really the trouble one has had theirself.
With chiron it seems that helping others is an escape from dealing with personal issues, that were painfull enough to throw one out of ones own identity and path......
Trouble is, the word heal, it means finished, done, for eternity, cleared up....not a cover up of symptoms........
The above is speculation of course