Venus square Chiron

Chirongirl

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A sure sign that you will never be trusted by your romantic partner, no matter how faithful you are? Thats certainly a hard aspect to deal with and I have been experiencing this over and over in my life. Anyone knows how to break this Karmic Pattern? Anyone else have experience this?
 

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dhundhun

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A sure sign that you will never be trusted by your romantic partner, no matter how faithful you are? Thats certainly a hard aspect to deal with and I have been experiencing this over and over in my life. Anyone knows how to break this Karmic Pattern? Anyone else have experience this?

As it appears, Venus has no aspect within proper orb with any planets (Moon - Saturn, Uranus - Pluto). So Venus, lord of the and 12 is not blended with rest of chart. This basically means marriage and companionship has not much role in life.

However 5th has Saturn as well as Chiron. Presence of Saturn alone can be suffering in love life, it seems to be afflicted by other planets. Look for those aspects for Karmic relationship.

Saturn is more linked with Karmik relationship and Chiron is more linked with wound, which heals other. Are you in the process of healing others?

Good luck in your search.
 

Chirongirl

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Do you have kite in chart?

Then focus will become apex. Tail suffers in kite.


Hi Dhundhun,
Thank you ever so much for your response. Yes, I do have a kite, Saturn/chiron is in the tail of the kite. and...venus is the lord of my 7th.

Would you please be able to tell me if the focus of kite changes with progression? It seems, at the moment, my kite has broken down and turned into a grand trine in water involving, Sun, Saturn/moon/chiron and Neptune. Do you have any idea how this is going to work?

Once again, thanks a lot for your insight.
 

dhundhun

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Grand trine is like blessing due to good kerma of past life (those who believe in rebirth). Affairs related to those planets go so smooth. But end is not always good. The problem comes from ignoring affairs of planets involved in Grand Trine.

With kite, this problem can be magnified, tail is totally ignored.

Answering your question: the progressions are not going to change Kite.
#1. Very few people can effectively take benefit of Transits with respect to progressed planets.
#2. Very few people remain indifferent to Natal Transits.
I don't consider Kite being broken due to progressions - it remains lifetime.

The effects of transits can be modified only when you are few of #1 and #2 above. It requires a lot maturity and understanding.
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From Vedic view, Diamond ring would be suggested to help Venus. Astrologically effective rings are touching and their weight will be usually above a caret.
 
A sure sign that you will never be trusted by your romantic partner, no matter how faithful you are? Thats certainly a hard aspect to deal with and I have been experiencing this over and over in my life. Anyone knows how to break this Karmic Pattern? Anyone else have experience this?

Is there some reason why we can't see the WHOLE chart. Your problems may well be connected to hard aspect from 7th house planets.

Chiron conj Saturn suggests wounds from father/males authority figures. Venus square saturn suggests feelings of being unloved in early childhood and you may always feel that you have to give out twice as much love than you receive back...

Chiron thread
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9786
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11976

Further discussions on AW and links from this thread….
http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html

http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm
http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm
http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&l r=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as _maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO#v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=fals e
 

Chirongirl

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But in terms of "breaking a karmic pattern" - if that's what happening - then for the Ve sq Chiron the positions of Scorpio 25 and Libra 25 become interesting.

From Scorpio 25 (or near) you'd get a trine to Chiron and a quincunx to Venus - both very good aspects.
From Libra 25 (or near) you get trine to Venus and quincunx to Chiron.

So, if you interacted with a person that had either Sun, Venus, Jupiter, Neptune, Chiron (and perhaps Pluto, but would be intense) at these positions you'd most likely experience a very different dynamic. These structures are called Romantic Super Linkages in Magi Astrology.

You could also natalise something on such a day - create an "event".

The other option would be to meditate or otherwise "inspect" what is causal for your Ve sq Chiron.
Could be "wounding around attraction," for instance.
I know that people who have Venus square Saturn have always experienced a loss in childhood - and for you it could be something similar, but as Chiron also rules reincarnation, the loss might have occured in a past life.

Cheers,
Sven



Hi Svencanz,
Thank you ever so much for your kind reply. You make so much sense. Most of my significat relationships were with peopel whos personal planets conjuncts my Ascendant or Neptune, which is my South node point too, and they always tend to end in disaster!

25 degree of scorpio is my degree of ascendent and 22 scorpio is the degree is my South node (ascendant conjunct south node) and 20 is the degree of my Neptune. I have no planet in Libra, but I have Mars conjuncting my North node in 7th house along with Sun (the Orb of conjunction to sun is pretty wide though). Please forgive me if I am being silly, but as I am just a novice, I do not understand the implications of these aspects as you have tried to point out with my chiron. I woudl be extremely greatful if you would kindly make it a bit clear for me. I always feel I have terrible Karma from past life. Sometimes when I meet people who conjunct my south node or ascendant, I feel terrible fear or resentment while they feel extreme obsessions towards me. I try my best to be positive in paying back my Karmic debts, accpet my sufferings with grace asking God to help me go through the process yet at times, it feels so dark! I see no light anywhere.

At the moment, Transiting Uranus from my 5th house squaring my 8th house Mercury and Jupiter which are Natally squared by Saturn and Chiron along with Transiting Pluto opposite of them from my 2nd house. I am going through the worst headache of my life. It is Uranus in Aries kind of headache-explosive, combined with Pluto's intensity!! Appearently there is no medical reason for me to have these headaches other than stress, but to be honest I am not partucularly stressed for any reason. Or perhaps I am always lives in so much stress that I don't even notice when I am stressed! I am now taking Codin regularly, but even that is not helping. I feel like I am going to die or have a brain haeomarage or something for this this pain, its soo intense and explosive!

This again feels like some kind of Karmic payback! Only if I knew what it was and how to end this! I feel so miserable. Could you please show me a way to get out of these? I will be extremely grateful.

Thanks once again for your kind reply. I appreciate it greatly.

Kind regards.
 

Chirongirl

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Hi Astrologer50, thank you so much for your reply and the links. Yes, I do have a malicious and aflicted 7th house. Having Mars is in 7th house conjunct Sun, NN, Juno squared by Pluto and Uranus is not fun! I hope I know how to break the Karmic pattern and finish this paying back! Its been too long and I am totally out of my wit now!

Thanks once again. You have always been very kidn to me and helped me a lot understanding my situation. I am ever so grateful for that.

Kind regards.
 
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