Venus lines in relocation charts

archergirl

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Hi folks,

I have no clue about Astrocartography, so maybe someone here can enlighten me. I have been playing around with the Astrocartography function on Astrodienst, using my natal chart. I discovered something interesting.

Using my plain old natal chart, I've got a Venus DC line running right through the following places in Europe:

Scotland and northern England
Western France
Switzerland
Almost all of Italy down through Sicily and beyond.

I found this rather funny, because I have always found Italians to be very attractive [who doesn't?], as well as men from northern England rather than southern England (a lot of northern Brits, like northern Italians, are dark with blue eyes, my favourite 'type').

Now, I guess my question is: does the Venus line (or any other line) affect how other people perceive *you*, or is it just how you perceive *them*? In other words, what I really want to know is, when I travel to northern Italy someday, will I have lots of handsome Italian men following me around because they think I'm irresistible, or will it just be me looking around longingly?:p

Also, I have the Sun line running right through Greece (a country I just love) but nothing running through Spain, where I was thinking about moving to at one point. I assume that Greece, having a Sun line, would be a better place for me? Or should it be Italy?;)

Thanks for any pointers!
AG:)
 

Moulin

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archergirl said:
Now, I guess my question is: does the Venus line (or any other line) affect how other people perceive *you*, or is it just how you perceive *them*? In other words, what I really want to know is, when I travel to northern Italy someday, will I have lots of handsome Italian men following me around because they think I'm irresistible, or will it just be me looking around longingly?:p


LOL AG.
I wish l could help you but l know nothing about this subject although l would have thought that venus and jupiter lines were good ones to look at.

I found your "chased by italians" line hilarious :D
 

Otay

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Yo' is a funny one, got to agree there with Moulin! A friend of mine visited Italy at her post-high school graduation/pre-college trip compliments of her parents. She related a story of the admiration she recieved from those emotionally generous italian guys: "he stood there leaning against the wall of a building as I passed, gave a little whistle to get my attention, gestured with his index finger in and out of circled thumb and index of his left hand and winked and smiled at me". hahahahaha! She loved it!

Aside from downloading some free software (some are stingey and give you only "samples") to play with for a month before you buy.
Your birthchart & progressions and transits still figure first timing-wise. Why not schedule a trip when the time is right/ripe to one of those places. Maybe you'll meet someone on a flight or right where you live from one of those countries.

Hey, you could be like me. I have a venus line running through Japan and some godforsaken place in upper east Norway. Sad, sad sad.
 

Jilly

Banned
LOL Archer, and will these Italian men be chasing you with Cornettos singing 'Just one cornetto?' and plead lovingly at you with their big brown eyes he he he he he :)
 

jupiter

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Dear Archegirl,

Astrocartography can be much more complicated than that.
Check out Robert Couteau's site, he speaks about the least -aspected planet.

Succintly, in every chart there are planets that receive many aspects and those that we think they are unaspected.

The areas in the world in which by plain, traditional astrocartography techniques our MOST aspected planets fall can present immense difficulties to us. (Even if it is Venus or Jupiter!)

The geographical areas in which our least aspected planets fall are more beneficial to us, even if it is Saturn.

This theory is based on something we all know that we have to find balance in our charts and in our lives. Imagine a person with a very strong mars (mars receiving many aspects in his chart) going to his mars line in the map.


My least aspected planet is Jupiter by the way, in my early astrological years I really thought he was completely unaspected - not true- it forms some minor aspects - but Yes jupiter is by far my least aspected planet.

You see , according to Mr Couteau's theory, but also to traditional astrology I will have to become as much Jupiterian as I can, in the good sense -not gain weight and go on the casinos - but personalize the higher jupiterian values.

Go to the site, it has some very interesting articles too.

I really believe that astrocartography is one of the most difficult sectors of our Art.

Good luck
Jupiter (to be)
 

tikana

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AG

honestly i don't believe in lines/relocation at all!
LA is beautiful for me *supposedly* I have Venus running through it!
well guess what
I HATE IT here
incredibly miserable.

my 2 areas where i would love to live are either German or Scandinavia!

I feel incredibly close with Scandinavians .. believe it or not .. but it is much warmer fuzzy feeling than with my own countrymen..

so go figure
Tik
 

jupiter

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Dear Tikana,
You said exactly what I was trying to say.

That's why Venus or jupiter lines are not always the best place to be.

Of course the majority of people feel a connection to their birthplaces. It's only natural.
 

tikana

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Hidiy hi Jupiter

I do not even want to ever go to the place where i was born.
basically, i am a gal who was raised by right family but born in a wrong country!

Tik
 

Moulin

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LOL

you scandi you!! :)

tikana said:
Hidiy hi Jupiter

I do not even want to ever go to the place where i was born.
basically, i am a gal who was raised by right family but born in a wrong country!

Tik
 

lexia523

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hey that line sounds fun.. can someone send me that link to astrodienst? grazie.. efgartissto... umm dont know any other pleases...:eek:
but if i get alaska or syberia... im not going..no no:mad: even for loveeeeeeeeeee:p
 

lexia523

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never mind ,, i found it
:confused: :confused: :confused: greenland... rushia................ahh who needs love:D
they do say that love is in the bottom of a vodka bottle...:p
 

archergirl

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So when we're talking about least-aspected planets, how wide of an orb do we give them? In my chart it's probably Mercury: there is a square with Uranus, but that's about it.

My Venus is actually aspected a lot, if we use orbs of 10 degrees: conjunct the Sun, trine the Moon, sextile Uranus, and square Pluto.

So I would assume that the Venus DSC line (that's what it's called in the cartography chart) would be a place where one gets very 'involved', because of all the aspects to other planets? In other words, the more aspects you have to a planet, the more involvement you attract from others to play out those aspects? Am I on the right track?

Thanks!
AG:)
 

jupiter

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Dear archergirl,

I presume that You had already read some examples in Mr Couteau's site about Astrocartography and the Least - aspected planet.

Who am I to say if You are on the right track or not?

All I know (after reading again and again Mr Couteau's extremely interesting site) is that we have to bring balance to our charts.

We already know that - when I work a lot and all I care about is my career (10th) my home life (4th )is a little bit neglected, when I only care about everyday issues (6th house), my internal life is neglected (12 th). etc- we should achieve balance in our lives.

If Your venus is Your most aspected planet You have integrated well all venusian qualities, sometimes we tend to abuse or to overuse the qualities of our most -aspected planet, because it is like a room in our house with all the lights on. If You go on a place in the world where Your venus in on the Dsc line or Mc line or any other axis etc, you would agree that you stress even more these venusian qualities.
You can see Mr Couteau's point here, it is crystal clear to me at least- too much of something can destroy. Too much cake or ice-cream (venus) can make you feel sick.

But if Your mercury is your least aspected planet, it is like You should go after it. You should try to light at least a candle in that dark room. You should try to bring your mercury to center stage.

You know, at least that is what I have understood from Mr. Couteau's site, our true nature, our goal in life, is our least aspected planet.

To be sure Venus Dsc Line seems wery enticing for traditional astrocartography, I used to think that too. Romance, good venusian vibrations and then I came across the least -aspected planet theory and I understood the "hybris", as we say in Greece.

As far as orbs are concerned I believe that Mr Couteau explains how he works in his site.

But I wouldn't use 10 degrees orb, 9 degrees is my maximum orb for major aspects and up to 6 for the minor ones, I also consider more strict orbs for the out of sign aspects. To tell You the truth I asked Mr Couteau to calculate my least -aspected planets since I am going to relocate a lot in my life - because of my work- and I wanted to avoid any surprises.

So, You see I have many reasons to find the best method of astrocartography.

I tried to help, I recommend this site wholeheartedly, it makes sense and it is a major breakthrough in astrology.

A jupiter least-aspected human being
 
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jupiter

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Dear Tikana,
a lot of negativity, why?????

Try positive thinking.
Right down on a piece of paper what You want and look at it from time to time (See "the secret") make a wish in written form and thank the universe for all you got, thank it for the things you want and you don;t have right now.

You know it sounds strange but the universe hears our voices and everything comes right back to us!!!

It is about a year now, sth was really not right in work, I wrote in a piece of paper :"Thank You I have this and that .........in my work" 2 months after that I had what I had asked for...........

It is unbelievable but it works, see for yourself and always think the best scenario, be positive, be optimistic........

Hey, how jupiterian is this!!!

A jupiter least-aspected soul.....
Good luck to all!
 

jupiter

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I agree with lexia523. Australia Rocks.

We don't have to go there to feel the influence of these countries.
People coming from these countries are an equal influence to our lives.
My best friend in the world comes from Australia.
But Jenna I really don't think You paid any attention to what I was trying to say here. Are jupiter and Venus your least aspected planets or what.

Don't go for Jupiter and venus lines blindly....
Choose wisely...............
 

QuaOs

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This reminds me that a while ago I have experimented with Local Space Chart technique, and have found that if I - starting from my birthplace - follow in the direction of Venus at birth, would go out into the vast south ocean, crossing the continents only at far southern ends of Africa and South America. Maybe stopping dead at Antarctica. :eek:

I've also somewhat tried to cast my natal chart in various places around the world where I feel good affinity with. (Among the top list Australia, yeah, that land rocks. A huge rock that is :D)
 

tikana

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jupiter said:
Dear Tikana,
a lot of negativity, why?????

*** lol CAUSE I HATE LA! what is possitive in this sh*thole .. sorry for my swedish****

Try positive thinking.

** possitive thinking is me planning a way to get the HELL OUT OF HERE! ***

Right down on a piece of paper what You want and look at it from time to time (See "the secret") make a wish in written form and thank the universe for all you got, thank it for the things you want and you don;t have right now.

*** i am not 10 years old.. thanks but it doesnt quite work.. what i dont have is a town to call home! ***

You know it sounds strange but the universe hears our voices and everything comes right back to us!!!


*** well we have had SETI scanning universe for 30+ years.. so far no one is replying so it doesnt quite work ***

It is about a year now, sth was really not right in work, I wrote in a piece of paper :"Thank You I have this and that .........in my work" 2 months after that I had what I had asked for...........

*** coincidence! when i will be filing my residential visa then i will be a happy person .. that is when my writing will come into a play *GRIN* ***

It is unbelievable but it works, see for yourself and always think the best scenario, be positive, be optimistic........

Hey, how jupiterian is this!!!

*** well .. i am plutonian.. i like raising hell! i have pluto/mars opposition .. me being a scorpio and mars ruling my 9th .. that is pressuring for getting the hell out .. or i could turn myself into a monk hermit and lock myself in church or something.***

A jupiter least-aspected soul.....
Good luck to all!

*** cheers
Tik
 

jupiter

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Dear Tikana,
I see why You are negative.
Although my Asc is Scorpio and I'm currently in a phase that my progressed Sun conjuncts my natal Pluto and progressed Moon conjuncts natal Saturn I cannot feel the way you do, neither think the way you do.
Just try to write down your wish and you will see it taking form. I hope that you will find your place in the world.
Good luck, from my universe where" happy go lucky" is the motto!!!
 

Moulin

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Oz rocks IF you never wanna go to USA or Europe LOL

If you do, it's a nightmare.

I would live in Sydney OZ tomorrow IF there was a plane that didn't take 21 hrs to get there :D Who the hell wants to be 21 hrs from home?

Tik,
Cosmic ordering would help you l think. I've been doing it for a week now and a few things have happen already that are positive! :p

xx

jupiter said:
I agree with lexia523. Australia Rocks.

We don't have to go there to feel the influence of these countries.
People coming from these countries are an equal influence to our lives.
My best friend in the world comes from Australia.
But Jenna I really don't think You paid any attention to what I was trying to say here. Are jupiter and Venus your least aspected planets or what.

Don't go for Jupiter and venus lines blindly....
Choose wisely...............
 
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