My son has Mars-Venus, with Uranus and Neptune in the mix (6th house stellum mostly in Aquarius with Neptune at 28.5 degrees of Capricorn) + Leo rising and a 5th house Sun-Mercury combo. But a WHOLE bunch of planets also aspect his ascendant. Some astrologers don't count Grand Trines with angles, but I do, and he's got a double Grand Trine with the Leo Asc, 9th house/Aries Saturn in both, and a 5th house/Sagittarian Mercury for 1, with a 4th house/Sagittarian Pluto for the 2. He also has Jupiter, Uranus, and Venus all in opposition to the ascendant, and Uranus-Venus form a T-square with the Ascendant and Chiron.
So he's a great example of how multiple planetary aspects to the ascendant can make one's appearance so complicated, there is no clear "type." He's a planetary Heinz 57. :-D
He's taller than the family average (we're short), at 5'11", and I'm not sure he's done growing yet (he's only 15, but matured early). He's also thin, in part as a result of his ADHD meds (which reduce hunger), but he has a long, narrow face, a larger-than-average but straight nose, large eyes, heavy eyebrows, a good mouth with notable lips, a good jaw and chin and a nice long neck. Long fingers, notable body hair, if not yet on his chest. He's working on a full beard ... at 15. His father could grow a true beard at 16. Ethnic background is US mixed: Danish, French, German, American Indian, Italian, and Scottish dominate (astrological appearance can't ignore ethnic markers).
He has a saunter gait, not terrible but not good posture. A good head of hair (he is Leo rising). His hair was also lighter at birth than I'd expected: both I and his father have v. dark brown hair while he was dark blond/light brown at birth and while that did darken, he was at best a light-to-medium brown in childhood, although in adolescence it's what I'd call "dark medium brown.' (Others call it dark brown, but I had true dark brown, and my mother was native black, so it's not that dark to me. *grin*) Although his eyes look brown at a distance, they're actually hazel-green-brown, what we (natives) sometimes call "part-blood eyes." His skin is exceedingly fair, several shades lighter than either myself or his father, and he doesn't really tan, although he also doesn't really burn. He is the whitest Red Boy I know. *grin* He did inherit the Indian cheek-bones, but I think that's about all!
Despite the whole Venus-Neptune conjunction, he can't sing (not tone deaf, but bad ear), although he loves music. He can dance and has a certain grace of movement even as a gangly adolescent, although he tends to downplay it. While he's strong for his build and size, and has athletic ability, he has little athletic *interest*. His voice is a tenor, and he inherited the family timbre that projects well. Like both myself and his grandfather (and unlike his father), he can be heard all over the house without trying. When he smiles, it lights up his whole face. He doesn't have true dimples, but does have "brackets" at the corners of his mouth that resemble dimples.
Girls do consider him attractive, and watch him when he passes, but he's not conventional model pretty -- although he photographs very well, good bone structure. Rarely takes a truly BAD picture (unlike his parents). Right now, he exhibits more of his Virgo Moon than Leo Rising or Sagittarius Sun -- he is NOT at all outgoing -- although especially the Sagittarian Sun pops out with his blunt tongue ("I-do-not-know-the-meaning-of-tact-when-it-interferes-with-honesty"), ha. His Libra Sun "make nice" mother sometimes shudders at what comes out of his mouth ... but his charm lets him get away with it. If I said half of what he says, I'd get punched in the nose. 8}
There is, obviously a lot of other stuff, but I wanted to focus primarily on appearance and carriage. And it does back up the "Mars-Venus isn't necessarily conventional attractiveness" theme. For him, there's a whole STELLUM involved, which obviously modifies it, and placed in Aquarius, that's unlikely to take a "normal" presentation anyway. I'm attaching his chart and a small picture (face only)
Oh, yeah, he's got the whole beauty-mark/facial mole thing going on. hee.
