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If the Ukrainian Nazis are not targeting the nuclear power plant in Zaporozhye
then foreign mercenaries are doing it

maybe even Americans who choose targets on the Russian side




Zelinski is trying to internationalise the conflict :)

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JUPITERASC

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Iran has always been considered as the best
or one of the best
alternatives to Russian natural as and oil.
The problem is US sanctions against Iran

and Europe’s full support of those sanctions :)




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david starling

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Try to understand: •There was no military attack on Russia prior to Putin's invasion of the Ukraine.
• Putin launched the attack after cancelling diplomatic negotiations.
• No invasion of Russia is planned.

Those who are cheering Putin on are like those movie goers who love to cheer for the homicidal villain and hope he wins. Except, this ISN'T a movie.
 
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Politicians in Germany: "...WE have to tighten OUR belts in solidarity with Ukraine..."
Meanwhile the poverty rate is already nearly at 17%
and
it is likely to double in the next few years because of the economic effect of the sanctions
So seeing Frau Faeser enjoying champagne on a sunny balcony
while warning about energy protests in Germany, already framing them as right wing
before even one foot had hit the street.
Well, that - even for a German is a reason for mild criticism.
pic with "...Fancy Naser..." is so upsetting is because
there was an earlier pic of that day
where she visited some ruins with a sad face and in a flak-jacket
that makes believe how tragic the situation in UA is.
And then came that pic
This "...war-tourism..." which our politicans think is the "...hip place to be at..."

is morally as rotten as thai-child-pron-tourism.
world is completely messed up because of these people that drink mid day
shopping, concerts, flowers no mention of the victims of the war

the needless death of many young men -civilians - what a shameless lot


sad that many Ukrainian refugees that come to EU countries are forced to lie
about why they had to run away from Ukraine. Even if it is the Ukrainian regime they run away from
- they must say it is the Russians they run away from if they want a easy way in.

But when they get to know you and trust you, they will tell the truth
and they will also tell you that they do not understand anything media is talking about

only reason Zelensky remains

is to validate Ukraine’s surrender of Donbas and any other territory
once Russia decides it has been satisfied. Once this occurs, Zelensky will be given the boot.
Period. For now Zelensky is an hair on fire leader

serving Russia’s need to poke the collective west


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JUPITERASC

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The whole country has been turned into a joke
under a comedian president
this is a truly unique page in world history
Ministries of Nineteen Eighty-Four:
The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war
the Ministry of Truth with lies
the Ministry of Love with torture
and
the Ministry of Plenty with starvation.
a clown in a castle doesn’t become a King
instead the castle becomes a circus

NATO clown Zelensky loves doing PR, he was and still is an actor after all :)



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JUPITERASC

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Russia can be just as clever responding to the peacekeeping zone stunt
as the West was in proposing it. :)

Russia and China both have seats on the Security Council
and nothing can be approved over their veto.

Russia can ask for an inquiry to establish that Ukraine is shelling the plant
and say all they need is for the Security Council to order them to stop.

If there’s a peacekeeping zone, then it should be limited to the plant and its grounds.

If there are peacekeepers, then it should be less than 10 of them
and all of them should be from countries that are not hostile to Russia.
That would exclude members of NATO, the EU, and

any country that participates in any kind of sanction.:)

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JUPITERASC

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watched a man kick and scream
as he was being taken by police to the recruitment center in Ukraine
by force
he resisted the entire time and screamed because he knew he was being sent to death.

It was horrible to watch as the recruitment officers were laughing.
Imagine knowing for sure you fate is sealed.



regarding nuclear power plant I find Dima's (Military Summary channel) hypothesis most plausible.
He thinks the Russians are trying to re-route the power
from the plant away from the Ukrainian controlled territories
and the Ukrainians are shelling
either to prevent the engineers from making that happen
or simply as a premature retaliation.

The plant produces aprox. 20-25% of Ukrainian electricity so that would be a huge issue for Ukraine :)

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If UK suffers this crises because of Ukraine
the political leadership will be quite satisfied.
Ukraine is more important to UK political leaders than the wellbeing of its(UK) citizens :)
Under such an economic situation the UK is giving 1.5 billion Pounds to Ukraine to continue war
UK banks have issued LIMITS of £2,000 per person per week starting November 1, 2022

. If people want to do a withdrawal, they must notify the bank 24 hours beforehand!!



UK has hidden agreements with the EU it's now become obvious
and putting more and more illegal boat people in four star hotels
at the cost of £5 million pounds a day isn't helping
while people can't afford to pay their own bills is disgraceful.
Norway has a severe drought so they are unable to supply the energy that the UK needs.
UK companies had unlimited access to oil development fields in Western Siberia
for years building and working hard
but arrogance, stupidity and degradation of their politicians screwed up wide spectrum of activities
it was big % of UK GDP
These problems can be solved easily

let's divert the attention by creating issues with Russia and China!

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JUPITERASC

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Zelensky, the man who profited massively out of his oligarch controller looting Privatbank
to the tune of $5.5bn, is hardly in a position to claim the moral high ground. :)
Him & his wife own vast amounts of assets, way out of scale with his career as a clown.




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JUPITERASC

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Russia already has the biggest deposit of raw material and resources
plus biggest deposit of titanium , gold and palladium
total valuing up to 80 trillion
biggest in the world due to sheer size of their country
but majority of their resources are buried under permafrost
which could eventually melt due to global temperature rising
now you add Ukrainian resources well you have new superpower In making

This is an astonishing reward for Russia's special millitary operation in Ukraine
and equally so, an astonishing loss for Ukraine
which is also very painful for the Ukrainians to even think about.
Great job Zelensky!!!! You're the hero of heroes

US spends more on the military, but they forgot how to wage a war.
Kicking doors down in a desert and killing some Iraqi T-55s is hardly a display of power.
Russia on the other hand is defeating the strongest military in Europe
that ALSO is hiding behind human shields. Now that is professional.




Right now Russia has no way to export oil or natural gas to Hungary and Serbia.
When they capture a path from Kherson to Moldova, they will have this path.
After Hungary takes back the Uzhhorod oblask there is just a very short distance
of unpopulated land and they have a pipeline from Russia to Hungary
almost completely controlled by Russia

Once Russia connects to Transnistria then all the areas it would have taken
are 100% of the commercial holdings of Ukraine. Its industrial areas, fields, natural resources
and most importantly the people who could use these areas to produce economic output.
A fun fact no one wants you to know is that once the Ukraine pivoted completely to the West
It's GDP shrank by a considerable amount.
Russia will be investing in this area mightily and there will be an ROI increase.
Russians are rebuilding Mariupol at an astounding rate.
It seems that Putin ordered that the Azovstal won't be rebuilt but converted into a tech area.
So much for the sanctions against Russia
Why do you think America is so interested in Ukraine, it isn't altruism :)

Just like Syria, Iraq and Libya with the petroleum


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JUPITERASC

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CNN recently ran a segment about the Ukraine situation
that must have left many viewers scratching their heads.
Specifically, the news network ran a piece highlighting all the Ukrainian civilians
crossing over from Ukrainian territory
into areas held by the Russian military.
Wouldn’t these people be rounded up and slaughtered by Russian soldiers, viewers must have wondered
based on the kind of reporting they’ve seen from CNN previously? :)
Jimmy and his panel of The Dive’s Jackson Hinkle and America’s comedian Kurt Metzger discuss

the likely apocryphal reasons given by motorists for making their way into “...enemy...”-held territory.


One is bankrupt country run by a comedian :)
who is using his citizens as sacrificial lamb for his NATO master
vs a country which has seen the strongest currency & supported by most of the world
another funny fact:
Between Russian and Ukraine was an agreement for visa free travel
which Ukrainians violated whole time
until they introduced the law forcing russians to apply for visa, when crossing into Ukraine.

There was a report about ukrainian minister complaining
that during 10 month NONE russian
(like zero.. absolutely nada)
applied for such visa.

Thousands of russians, who crossed in refused to do so just because they were visiting their relatives.
over 70% of ukrainians have relatives in Russian Federation.
And now say to me this is not a citizen war.
also you can see many men crossing into Russian areas.
Russians do not draft into the army
Wow, the folks driving into Russia seem to be solving their issues themselves.
They've probably realized that it is safer to be in Russia than in any other part of Europe.
There may be many valid reasons for that.
That’s why when the Crimea held its referendum, 95% jumped at the chance to be part of the RF
quite obvious that they don't want to openly admit on camera
they are freely choosing to live in Russian controlled area .
Before the war broke out, many Ukrainian people identified with Russia
held shared values and spoke the same language. Of course they jumped ship
I wish them well and I hope they can resettle somewhere safe. Good luck people

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blatant falsehoods from the Ukranian side and their Western masters :)
just made it impossible for anyone with an ounce of common sense
to believe anything they say anymore.

WHY would Russia shell the biggest power station in Europe
when they intend to supply South Ukraine and Crimea with electricity from it??? :)
This Russia vs NATO/Ukraine operation should teach us that
'...failing to plan is planning to fail...'
The Russians have spent 8 years planning their military and economic strategy
while the West/NATO cabal were woke virtue signalling all the time.

Food and energy > democracy and human rights


saying that it's the Ukrainians bombing the Zaphorasia NPP, whereas in reality it's USA :)
which is actually the culprit. Because HIMARS are operated completely by the US
including providing the targeting priority, the coordinates of the target, the missiles
and the crew needed to operate the firing units.

So it does look like US/Ukr wants to make the territories they lost to Russians uninhabitable
as well as to nuke the rest of the Europe.

The Russians have no intention of giving up the ZNPP which they have controlled since March
- they are also in the process of
getting the ZNPP connected to the Russian and Crimea electric grids
and separating it from the Ukraine grid.

It’s the US directing the power plant shelling

Ukraine: OMG why are you guys bombing yourselves?

Russia: We aren't it's you and here's proof.

Ukraine: No it's not! Stop it you guys.

UN: We don't believe you Ukraine.

Ukraine: We WILL!! ATTACK THE REACTOR.

Russia: You already have and are risking destroying parts of Europe.

Ukraine: Rrreeeeeeeee

Zelenski: “...Hi… at a Nuclear Power Plant with a molotov cocktail… hold my beer...” :)

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its all about who does the funding - who are the donors keeping them in office :)
Soros - defence industry - people are being to wake up
lobbyists bribe politicians to work for them, and in most cases that means against us
Americans SOLD our manufacturing base to China
Ingredients for a whole range of deadly drugs are put on trains in San Diego, San Francisco
and shipped down to Mexico - the cartels mix, repackage and send them up North
if we would like that to stop THEN CLOSE THE BORDER
Washington's game of musical chairs is destroying the world
US is plutocratic Oligarchy with a war economy.

DON'T BLAME CHINA


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Zelinsky admitting bombing the NPP is not a good look :)

attitudes of western governments will be shaped less by what happens in Ukraine
and much more by the economic blowback from the economic warfare on Russia.
Germany may be facing a significant deindustrialisation, while Britain is already
going into recession and a serious economic crisis,
which will no doubt be repeated elsewhere in Europe.
If the European economy really starts to suffer
then questions might start to be asked about where this is going if it carries on for years.
The US economy is not immune either.
Political consequences are already emerging in western societies


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JUPITERASC

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Russia and China know they don't have to win :)
They merely need to give the US Empire every chance to defeat itself
with its own crass ineptitude.

Meanwhile, all Russia and China need do is remain resiliant.


As a result of offensive operations by the Russian armed forces
the settlement of Udy in the Kharkov Region has been completely liberated.
Russian air forces killed up to 35 Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU)
destroyed 15 units of armored vehicles and equipment
near Belaya Krinitsa and Belogorka settlements, Kherson region
and eliminated almost 40 nationalists and nine military equipment assets near Dzerzhinsk, DPR.

More than 200 Ukrainian servicemen have refused to perform combat tasks :)
and voluntarily abandoned their positions :)
because of heavy losses near Opytnoye and Pervomayskoye, DPR.
Russian artillery destroyed two Ukrainian missile and artillery weapon depots
in Artemovsk, DPR and near Bereznegovatoye in the Nikolaev region.
Russian air defences have shot down two Ukrainian drones near Lisichansk
LPR and near Glubokoye in Kharkov region
one Ukrainian Tochka-U was intercepted near Lisichansk in LPR.
A new group of volunteers, who underwent training in the Chechnya-based
university of special forces, left the Russian North Caucasus Republic and is headed to Ukraine.


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JUPITERASC

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how can a newspaper based in UK/Europe be publishing the sort of dangerous rhetoric
and calls for violence against a country's leader?
Tisdall should get a job writing for Marvel Comics.
He obviously has no perception of real military strategy.
He, along with so many other Western buffoons, is living in a "...superhero..." narrative
fascinating to watch Russian leaders collaborate with so many other countries
to build a whole new system
while the West insists on making one bad decision after another.
I guess this is how you successfully fight on multiple fronts

- actively fight on one and let the stubborn, short-sighted ones defeat themselves on all the others.


Finally
the comedian blabbers that he was the one shelling the Zaprozhiya Nuclear power plant :)

maybe with a little bit more snorting of powder
he may even say the truth that who told him to do so

or maybe turn the gun against them for blocking the money supply

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The Ukrainian border was never ratified after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Technically, it remains a legal entity of Russia. Why would Russia declare war in itself?
Moreover, if they declare war, it gives the west license to declare Ukraine a sovereign entity

and the '...right...' to legally intervene :)

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