Ukraine.

blackbery

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David uses lamesteam media to get his 'info' which is all fake news.

But here are the FACTS.

Is there a draft in Ukraine?
Ukraine has always had military conscription. ....Since when it was part of the Soviet Union.
They never changed it.

Russian Federation
As of 2021, all male citizens aged 18–27 are subject to conscription for 1 year of active duty military service
in armed forces
, but the precise number of conscripts for each of the recruitment campaigns, which are usually held
twice annually.
Conscriptioning men to fight in Ukraine was a decree by Putin to add another 220,000 to the small # that
originally entered Ukraine. More than 500,000 showed up & 1/2 were turned away as they didn't need them.
Russians are probably the bravest, most Patriotic soldiers & proved that in ww2 where more Russian soldiers
died fighting against the Germans than all the other countries combined.
They really hate hazis.😗😗

Fun fact: During ww2, Ukranians fought WITH the German nazis against Russia & the west. And they neve left.

The country is infested with nazis with children as young as 5 being taught the nazi salute.
How sickening that NATO supports nazis after what they did during the Holocaust!:sick::sick::sick:


Plenty of other countries have mandatory military draft.... Israel, South Korea...just to name a couple.


Ukraine is the center of the deep state.​

It's the head of the snake and Putin's taking the head off.​


 

blackbery

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P {paranoid}
U {unhinged}
T {tyrannical}
I {irrational}
N {nihilistic}


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
OK.

But good to know David that you Support the CIA-US backed coups, the overthrow of legitimate govt's
& Zelensky's suppression of political opponents & shutting down all free press & even the Ukrainian Church.

Zelensky's transformation from lowly-paid comedian to full-blown, billionnaire
dictactor tyrant is now complete!


The nazis in Ukraine are giving the demon beast Zelensky their salute.😌😌😌



Zelensky announced a ban on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.​

Ukraine:​

UOC Churches and Holy Sites Raided by SBU, Zelensky Supports Banning UOC​



 

blackbery

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blackbery

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Still not one criticsm against the O'Biden regime receiving billions in payouts from the Ukraine
money-laundering grift.
If THEY cared about the Ukranian people, they wouldn't steal the money that Congress approved
4 the country.
If THEY cared about the Ukranian people, they wouldn't be pushing Ukraine into NATO membership.
If THEY cared about Ukraine, they wouldn't have initiated a coup in 2014 to remove a duly elected president.
If THEY cared about Ukrainian people, they would have stopped funding the nazis who have killed over
14,000 in Eastern Ukraine.
If THEY cared about Ukraine, they wouldn't have blown up NS2.
If THEY cared about the Ukranian people, they wouldn't have cut off buying oil/gas from Russia.

But we know that THEY, the NWO, don't care about anyone except keeping wealth & power to the top 1%
& using their puppets like Zelensky, O'Biden to keep the corporate-industrial military complex going.

Plenty more BILLIONS to be grifted from the USA.

:sick::sick::sick:


Ermm. David, in case you're not aware, Ukraine/Russia are at war. Russia targeting military & industrial
areas like the power/electricity grid is what happens in war. The people suffer but Ukraine only has
its own gov't to blame 4 putting them in this tragic situation.







 

david starling

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Still not one criticsm against the O'Biden regime receiving billions in payouts from the Ukraine
money-laundering grift.
If THEY cared about the Ukranian people, they wouldn't steal the money that Congress approved
4 the country.
If THEY cared about the Ukranian people, they wouldn't be pushing Ukraine into NATO membership.
If THEY cared about Ukraine, they wouldn't have initiated a coup in 2014 to remove a duly elected president.
If THEY cared about Ukrainian people, they would have stopped funding the nazis who have killed over
14,000 in Eastern Ukraine.
If THEY cared about Ukraine, they wouldn't have blown up NS2.
If THEY cared about the Ukranian people, they wouldn't have cut off buying oil/gas from Russia.

But we know that THEY, the NWO, don't care about anyone except keeping wealth & power to the top 1%
& using their puppets like Zelensky, O'Biden to keep the corporate-industrial military complex going.

Plenty more BILLIONS to be grifted from the USA.

:sick::sick::sick:


Ermm. David, in case you're not aware, Ukraine/Russia are at war. Russia targeting military & industrial
areas like the power/electricity grid is what happens in war. The people suffer but Ukraine only has
its own gov't to blame 4 putting them in this tragic situation.

It's not Russia's war OR Ukraine's war--it's brutal dictator Putin's War ON Ukraine, like when Hitler invaded Russia.
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi David,
interestng alignments in January, on tenth, Sirius culminates in Moscow at midnight day marker, and on 17 Jan as Sun sets, Alnilam rises.
 

david starling

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Just as a point of interest, the Battle of Stalingrad was not in Germany's interest. It was personal for Hitler, and a waste of Germany's fighting force, even if Germany hadn't met with a catastrophic defeat. His generals begged him to forget about taking the Soviet capital, and concentrate on the strategic objective of securing some of the Russian oil fields for fighting the war against the U.S. and England, but Hitler wouldn't listen.

This war in Ukraine is personal for Putin, the same as defeating Stalin was to Hitler, and it's not in Mother Russia's best interests. That's why it's "Putin's War", and NOT a war "between Russia and Ukraine".
 

Moondancing

Premium Member
Ermm. David, in case you're not aware, Ukraine/Russia are at war. Russia targeting military & industrial
areas like the power/electricity grid is what happens in war. The people suffer but Ukraine only has
its own gov't to blame 4 putting them in this tragic situation.
Listening to Colonel Douglas Macgregor it is what USA did in WWII to Germany. Targeted their fuel storage, fuel distributions and power plants putting countries in the dark and making it impossible to lead normal lives. It brought the Air Force and Army almost to a stand still.
 

david starling

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Listening to Colonel Douglas Macgregor it is what USA did in WWII to Germany. Targeted their fuel storage, fuel distributions and power plants putting countries in the dark and making it impossible to lead normal lives. It brought the Air Force and Army almost to a stand still.

Are you really comparing Putin's unilateral war on Ukraine to the U.S. WWII campaign against Hitler's Germany?

In WWII, Hitler's Germany was the powerful aggressor, bent on world conquest. In Putin's War, the powerful aggressor is Putin himself, bent on conquering Ukraine, which had no intention of attacking Russia.
 

Moondancing

Premium Member
Just as a point of interest, the Battle of Stalingrad was not in Germany's interest. It was personal for Hitler, and a waste of Germany's fighting force, even if Germany hadn't met with a catastrophic defeat. His generals begged him to forget about taking the Soviet capital, and concentrate on the strategic objective of securing some of the Russian oil fields for fighting the war against the U.S. and England, but Hitler wouldn't listen.

This war in Ukraine is personal for Putin, the same as defeating Stalin was to Hitler, and it's not in Mother Russia's best interests. That's why it's "Putin's War", and NOT a war "between Russia and Ukraine".
Zelensky was acquiring military equipment from Germany, USA and Canada, and is hostile to Russia. How is that not in Russia's interests?
 

david starling

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Zelensky was acquiring military equipment from Germany, USA and Canada, and is hostile to Russia. How is that not in Russia's interests?

Zelensky wasn't hostile to Russia before Putin started a carefully planned campaign against Ukraine. He speaks both Russian and Ukrainian.
Now, he needs weapons to defend Ukraine against Putin's unilateral aggression.

Zelensky wasn't even in favor of making Ukrainian the official language. That was done before he took office. And, it's still no big deal. Russian is the official language of Russia. Lots of countries have an official language for conducting official government business.

As Putin well-knows, NO ONE is going to threaten Russian sovereignty within its own sovereign borders. Not with the Nuclear Arsenal he has at his disposal! His false claim that "OMG, NATO is trying to overthrow me :crying:" is just a ruse to excuse his own brutal War on Ukraine.
 

Moondancing

Premium Member
Zelensky wasn't hostile to Russia before Putin started a carefully planned campaign against Ukraine. He speaks both Russian and Ukrainian.
Now, he needs weapons to defend Ukraine against Putin's unilateral aggression.

Zelensky wasn't even in favor of making Ukrainian the official language. That was done before he took office. And, it's still no big deal. Russian is the official language of Russia. Lots of countries have an official language for conducting official government business.

As Putin well-knows, NO ONE is going to threaten Russian sovereignty within its own sovereign borders. Not with the Nuclear Arsenal he has at his disposal! His false claim that "OMG, NATO is trying to overthrow me :crying:" is just a ruse to excuse his own brutal War on Ukraine.
Yet look how quickly they have become a severe threat and forced Russia from a special military operation, very limited, very targeted to now sending hundreds of thousands of men to fight a war. It pisses me off that our leaders could not see an opportunity to build a peaceful co-existence with Russia like China, India, Turkey and many other countries are doing and instead acted recklessly and predatory. Using propaganda to feed the flames of people's fear of Russia yelling "OMG, Putin is threatening to go nuclear" 24/7 on the news. Now, it is Russia's intention to make Ukraine people freeze and Europe too. It's a war for their survival whether you see it that way or not. It is the way the Russian's see it.
 
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blackbery

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Listening to Colonel Douglas Macgregor it is what USA did in WWII to Germany. Targeted their fuel storage, fuel distributions and power plants putting countries in the dark and making it impossible to lead normal lives. It brought the Air Force and Army almost to a stand still.

Col Douglas Macgregor is the most informed military person on Ukraine.
He recently said in an interview that Russia is planning on a huge offensive in the winter which
will bring the war to an end.
There won't be much of Ukraine left anyways since half the country voted to join Mother Russia.

The bulk of the Russia military has been held back until now. Macgregor has stated previously that the
Russians only deployed a tiny fraction of their military to accomplish her mission. (biolabs, etc).
Now that there will never be peace negotiations, Russia is going to 'let loose' a large military continguent.
They have under arrest the many Ukranian nazis who committed war crimes & will be holding military
tribunals at some point.
Ukraine lost the war a long time ago. Russian is just doing a 'clean up' military job this winter.

Meanwhile, Zelensky is going into studios in Italy & Poland (he & his family left in March 22) begging for
more & more money. Now says he needs one TRILLION dollars to rebuild Ukraine.
The man is delusional clearly.....too much cocaine!
Many countries want peace talks & have stopped sending arms &
money since it's re-sold on the black market & the entire thing is a money-laundering scam.

In the end, it's always the innocent people who suffer & die because of the greed & corruption of their leaders.
Look at the thousands of American military who died fighting 'bankers wars' in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Libya, etc etc
with many more with serious injuries.

The fourth day of this winter is coming to an end.​

The winter, which will obviously be difficult.​


 
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