Ukraine.

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Jup,

The only thing i can find was in London, Gulp!
It is interesting that a replica of an Arch that was in Syria was put up in London, from a Temple of BA-AL, the date of this was 18th April 2016, sun was rising being ancient Egyptian day marker while Sirius was on the Nadir in London, quote below:-
https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/at623c7b1a.png


Quote below:-

"The apparent outcry to such a spectacle of a replica of the Gateway to the Temple of the god of sexual perversion and abortion to be publically displayed attests to the power of coordinated objection, be it from the secular and/or religious communities. As a concession, the organizers of such a presentation have opted-out to render the replica of the Arch of Triumph of Palmyra instead. The first replica of the Triumphant Arch or gate nonetheless is on display in London’s Trafalgar Square in commemoration of UNESCO’s World Heritage Week. [Additional note: Also the celebrations of Queen Elizabeth’s Birthday]

This time segment began on April 18, 2016 and ended on the 22nd. The Arch of Triumph is said to rise in Times Square sometime towards the end of 2017."
https://coercioncode.com/2016/05/01/archway-of-triumph-baal-built-and-in-trafalgar-square/
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Yesterday, we had the Russo-Ukraine conference in Istanbul:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60912474

It was marked by ancient Greek day marker, previous sunset to 29th March 2022, when Sirius was culminating at location:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/vl62447f98.png
Hi Monk :smile:



POTUS JB multiple Ukraine scandals

Parans to usual suspects a possibility


JOE BIDEN - BIRTH TIME UNRELIABLE
joseph-biden.png
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Joe Biden was born at approx. 08:30am on Friday 20th November 1942,

i've adjusted time to 08:33am to have Alnilam within one degree of setting, graph below:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fr6245a94e.png

https://www.astro-seek.com/birth-chart/joseph-biden-horoscope
Hi Monk :smile:

Thank you - that's food for thought




Alnilam, Anilam, Ainilam, and Alnihan are from Al Nitham

or Al Nathm, the String of Pearls

or
as British physicist Robert Recorde (1500-1558) said
the Bullions set in the middle of Orion’s Belt.

It portended fleeting public honors to those born under its influence


The celestial equator now passes through the Belt
but was 12° below it 4000 years ago

Tennyson in his Princess:
“...those three stars of the airy Giants’ zone
That glitter burnished by the frosty dark....”

https://www.constellationsofwords.com/alnilam/
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Yesterday, we had the Russo-Ukraine conference in Istanbul:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60912474

It was marked by ancient Greek day marker, previous sunset to 29th March 2022, when Sirius was culminating at location:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/vl62447f98.png
Hi Monk :smile:


But - which is THE Ukraine Horoscope?

There are three possible dates for the Ukraine horoscope
listed in the Book of World Horoscopes by Nicholas Campion.

The first date is for independence
set for 22 January 1918
but that independence was short-lived.

The second date is

for the Proclamation of Independence from Russia
on 24 August 1991.

Astro Databank uses this date: Astrology: Nation: Ukraine.


The final chart that Campion gives
is for a referendum confirming independence on 1 December 1991.


There is another chart for Kiev, of 8 May 882, which astrotheme uses: Astrology: Kiev (Ukraine)


Which would you recommend as an HERMETIC ASTROLOGER?




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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hi Jup,

The only thing i can find was in London, Gulp!
It is interesting that a replica of an Arch that was in Syria was put up in London, from a Temple of BA-AL, the date of this was 18th April 2016, sun was rising being ancient Egyptian day marker while Sirius was on the Nadir in London, quote below:-
https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/at623c7b1a.png


Quote below:-

"The apparent outcry to such a spectacle of a replica of the Gateway to the Temple of the god of sexual perversion and abortion to be publically displayed attests to the power of coordinated objection, be it from the secular and/or religious communities. As a concession, the organizers of such a presentation have opted-out to render the replica of the Arch of Triumph of Palmyra instead. The first replica of the Triumphant Arch or gate nonetheless is on display in London’s Trafalgar Square in commemoration of UNESCO’s World Heritage Week. [Additional note: Also the celebrations of Queen Elizabeth’s Birthday]

This time segment began on April 18, 2016 and ended on the 22nd. The Arch of Triumph is said to rise in Times Square sometime towards the end of 2017."
https://coercioncode.com/2016/05/01/archway-of-triumph-baal-built-and-in-trafalgar-square/
Hi Monk :smile:


A 20 foot (6.1 m) replica of the central part of the Monumental Arch

was carved out of Egyptian marble in Italy by machinery using a 3D computer model

by the Institute for Digital Archaeology in Oxford, England.

The replica was installed in Trafalgar Square, London April 2016.
It was displayed there for three days
before being moved to a number of other locations
including New York City, Florence, Geneva, Washington D.C.,
and Dubai.

It was sent to Syria afterwards
There Russians began Restoration of the Arch 12 November 2021.






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Monk

Premium Member
Hi Monk :smile:


But - which is THE Ukraine Horoscope?

There are three possible dates for the Ukraine horoscope
listed in the Book of World Horoscopes by Nicholas Campion.

The first date is for independence
set for 22 January 1918
but that independence was short-lived.

The second date is

for the Proclamation of Independence from Russia
on 24 August 1991.

Astro Databank uses this date: Astrology: Nation: Ukraine.


The final chart that Campion gives
is for a referendum confirming independence on 1 December 1991.


There is another chart for Kiev, of 8 May 882, which astrotheme uses: Astrology: Kiev (Ukraine)


Which would you recommend as an HERMETIC ASTROLOGER?




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Hi Jup,
I don't like any of the above but as a hermetic astrologer i like the one below:-
Ukraine first declared independence on 20 November 1917, link below:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Universal_of_the_Ukrainian_Central_Council

Egyptian sunrise day marker used as Sirius and Alnilam set in the West in Kiev:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/vp624d9afc.png
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Jup,
Previous comments:-
"Perhaps i could give charts in the future that Hermetic astrologers may use in the next few months, these alignments will continue every year till precession kicks in.

I am only showing Moscow alignments and telling you when these alignments happen in Kiev.

Hermetic astrologers love poetry, therefore the midnight daymarker with Sirius setting on 15th March being the Ides of March, seems beckoning for a assassination attempt on Putin, but parhaps not this year.
The same alignment happens in Kiev, Ukraine on 12th March.

In Moscow on 23rd March 2022 at midnight day marker in Moscow Alnilam sets at midnight, the same happens in Kiev on 15th March 2022.

Alnilam sets with the Sun in Moscow on 15 May 2022, in Kiev this happens on 20 May 2022
Sirius sets with the Sun in Moscow on 10 May 2022, in Kiev this happens on 17th May 2022

Only Moscow alignments shown:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/qx62222ab9.png

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/at62223c4f.png


As you see, i wrote that 10th of May could be used, however a better alignment could be 9th of May, which is Victory Day in Moscow, which is mentioned on link:-
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/03/europe/russia-victory-day-explainer-intl/index.html

However a better alignment with Sirius sligntly above horizon in Moscow happens on 9th May 2022, which is an important date for Putin, being Victory Day, who may make a declaration of war on Ukraine on this date as so far he has said it is only special military operations. He also may announce annexation of the South Eastern buffer zone of Ukraine or he may increase military operations on this day. We will see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
The chart for sunset on 9th May 2022 in Moscow is on link below:-
https://i.imgur.com/sIBd1wZ.png
 

david starling

Well-known member
Hi Jup,
Previous comments:-
"Perhaps i could give charts in the future that Hermetic astrologers may use in the next few months, these alignments will continue every year till precession kicks in.

I am only showing Moscow alignments and telling you when these alignments happen in Kiev.

Hermetic astrologers love poetry, therefore the midnight daymarker with Sirius setting on 15th March being the Ides of March, seems beckoning for a assassination attempt on Putin, but parhaps not this year.
The same alignment happens in Kiev, Ukraine on 12th March.

In Moscow on 23rd March 2022 at midnight day marker in Moscow Alnilam sets at midnight, the same happens in Kiev on 15th March 2022.

Alnilam sets with the Sun in Moscow on 15 May 2022, in Kiev this happens on 20 May 2022
Sirius sets with the Sun in Moscow on 10 May 2022, in Kiev this happens on 17th May 2022

Only Moscow alignments shown:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/qx62222ab9.png

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/at62223c4f.png


As you see, i wrote that 10th of May could be used, however a better alignment could be 9th of May, which is Victory Day in Moscow, which is mentioned on link:-
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/03/europe/russia-victory-day-explainer-intl/index.html

However a better alignment with Sirius sligntly above horizon in Moscow happens on 9th May 2022, which is an important date for Putin, being Victory Day, who may make a declaration of war on Ukraine on this date as so far he has said it is only special military operations. He also may announce annexation of the South Eastern buffer zone of Ukraine or he may increase military operations on this day. We will see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
The chart for sunset on 9th May 2022 in Moscow is on link below:-
https://i.imgur.com/sIBd1wZ.png


Monk, two questions:

Do you think Putin is deliberately using alignments with Sirius to plan his war strategy?

And, is it possible that an alignment with Sirius could signal a de-escalation, rather than an escalation?
 

dr. farr

Well-known member
Monk, two questions:

Do you think Putin is deliberately using alignments with Sirius to plan his war strategy?

And, is it possible that an alignment with Sirius could signal a de-escalation, rather than an escalation?

I doubt if Putin is using any astrological or other divinatory methods in running Russia or this war. Also, Sirius can on occasion give a very malign influence to events-it is a star that can cut either way.
 

dr. farr

Well-known member
One of the mundane charts for the independence of ukraine has the sun in the sign of taurus; note that Uranus entered Taurus a couple years ago-Taurus is the fall of Uranus (according to modernist astrology) and Uranus is (co-ruler) of Aquarius (according to some modernists) and Aquarius is affinitive to Russia in political astrology. Uranus in its fall in Taurus might partially explain why Russia has been having such a tough time of it in conquering ukraine.
 

waybread

Well-known member
An interesting thesis.

Taurus loves stability. Uranus rules sudden change-- and liberation.

I don't know about detriments, falls, and exaltations in modern astrology, but there does seem to be a sign-planet mismatch here.

Uranus advances to 18 Taurus, then goes retrograde on August 25, all the way back to 14 degrees 56' in January 2023, when it turns direct.

I use the Astrodienst chart for Vladimir Putin (Oct. 7, 1952, 9:30 am, or the Isaac Starkman 9:35 am rectification.)

Transiting Uranus doesn't seem to mess to seriously with Vladimir Putin's chart during this period, but it will square Volodymyr Zelenskyy's natal moon at 17 Leo and his natal Uranus in Scorpio quite a bit. Which I guess is to be expected even if/when Ukraine prevails.

Saturn seems to be Putin's major nemesis, with solar arc Saturn hitting his natal (militaristic) Mars, and transiting Saturn hovering around his natal IC/opposite MC-Pluto.

If any of you do primary directions, hopefully you can get a better read than I did.
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Jup, David Starling, Dr. Farr and Waybread,

I know it is difficult to get to the truth regarding Putin and electional astrology, however it has gone on as long as astrology has existed, as a few of you come from the area of the North East coast of America, i thought another Leader/ Governor of California would interest being the future President Reagan who was known to follow astrology,

He become Governor on 2nd January 1967 as shown below:-
https://governors.library.ca.gov/ad...html?msclkid=23d69024cf6a11ec94032a5a85460ea5

Parans have three starts of the day and one of them is midnight, where on date and location of Sacramento, being the Capitol, sirius is culminating at due South link below:-

https://i.imgur.com/pdXPN6L.png

Hi David,
Dr Farr is right, Sirius has duality, so can be used for good and bad purposes, in the case it is a positive alignment.
 

dr. farr

Well-known member
Regarding influences on Putin, star connections with his natal asc and mc and with the ruler or most elevated planet in his natal, would likely be the most revealing factors concerning this sinister dictator…
 

dr. farr

Well-known member
Looking at the astrodatabank Putin chart, I noticed Scorpio on the asc, sun inn 12th in its fall in libra, mars rising in the 2nd in fiery Sagittarius, with Pluto the most elevated planet, conjunct the mc.

Seems to me that mars/Pluto=the rulers of this nativity, which accords with the history of this man. 2 stars have connections in this chart; one, the malefic algorab conjunct the already detrimented sun; and one of Draco’s eyes, etamin, a powerful influence on chart co-ruler mars via close conjunction.

Keynotes: Pluto/mars chart rulers, sun in fall and afflicted by algorab, Venus in asc in detriment in Scorpio, Pluto conjunct mc, co-ruler mars made more fiery in Sagittarius rising in 2nd house, mars conjunct etamin, one of the eyes of Draco, potential for showering evil over the whole world…

Also; Pluto at mc in fiery Leo, conjunct Lilith and south node; Pluto and Uranus in near exact declination; saturn conjunct sun in its exaltation of libra and in its house of joy (12th)
 
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david starling

Well-known member
As a Modernist astrologer, I consider Mars strong in Scorpio, but not domicled. The 3 most recently discovered astrological planets each has its own domicile-Sign. Two planets, Mercury and Venus, are accorded two domicile-Signs, because, as the only planets inside of Earth's orbit, they regularly appear as both morning and evening "stars".

So, planets CAN have two domicile-Signs, but no Sign has two major astrological planets as domicile-planets. That's how it's always been.
 

david starling

Well-known member
Modernist astrologers have gone "On beyond Saturn" when it comes to Sign-rulers.

Let Modernists be Modernists and Traditionalists be Traditionalists.

Peaceful coexistence! :joyful:
 
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