Tucker Carlson

wilsontc

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All,

Tucker Carlson is going through some changes. Many transiting (moving planet in the sky) Saturn (duty, also responsibility) squares (energy needs to be combined with) to planets in his natal chart. Also transiting Neptune (spirituality, also deception) on his North node (future goals) opposing (energy is over-excited by) the stellium (collection of energy) on his South node (the past). And transiting Pluto (transformation) trine (energy goes easily with) Jupiter (expansion, also opportunity) and Sun (self-expression).

Stay Tuned,

Tim
 

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waybread

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Tucker Carlson is not home free, either professionally or astrologically.

Litigation is a 7th house matter, and Carlson is now being sued by a former staffer. Dominion is not the only voting machine company suing Fox. News A suit from SmartMatic has yet to be heard.

Carlson's and other Fox staffers' emails reveal that Carlson well knew that he was broadcasting bald-faced lies about the (not stolen) 2020 election, but he stated them anyway, to keep his employer's ratings up with Trump's fan base.

Pluto is now transiting Carlson's 7th house, suggesting more upheaval and Plutonian reveals of what once lay hidden. Unfortunately for him, transiting Pluto is now within orb of a square to the karmic debt collector-- his Saturn in early Taurus.

Carlson has a close natal sun-Neptune opposition. Transiting Neptune currently opposes his natal Jupiter-Pluto-Uranus stellium. Neptune is not the planet of grounded reality. It deals with illusion and disillusionment. Something one thought was real turns out to be illusory. Something one thought was not real turns out to be very real indeed.

Of course, election denying isn't Carlson's only illusion. He is a major climate change denier,is unperturbed about school shootings, and so on-- just about any cause that might conceivably be tainted by a hint of a whiff of liberalism. I see a lot of Neptunian illusion in Carlson's outlook and apparent prior sense of his own infallibility, but with these hard aspects, I think he is due for some serious reckoning.

I hope no arch-conservatives worry about him. Carlson is a very rich man, who made a lot of money from lying to the public.

I suspect another seismic change for him when Uranus in Taurus conjuncts his sun.

I think it would be super if Carlson could use this period to reflect-- and repent.
 

waybread

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sentR89day, in traditional astrology, Jupiter is in detriment in Virgo, so that's not specifically a strong placement for it.

Speaking of which, I sometimes look at whole signs houses when Placidus doesn't seem to entirely capture what I think the person is like, or if I wonder how a more traditional interpretation would play out.

In whole signs houses, Carlson's Mercury moves to the 12th house, which gives it much more of the flavor of the liar or trickster. With Mercury domiciled and with the Mars opposition in the mix, we would expect Carlson to be a very forceful speaker-- but to what end?

Despite Carlson's forcefulness as a speaker, Mars is actually a very weak planet in his chart. It has no essential dignity and is retrograde. People with Mars retrograde are often very hard on themselves, with a lot of that natural aggression turned inwards. He's probably gotten his bombast from other planets.

Carlson has 3 planets in Taurus, including a Saturn with no essential dignity and no major aspects. This probably affects his sense of responsibility. Taurus isn't specifically interested in the truth per se, but in material stability.

I certainly wish Carlson no harm. Like millions of other politically moderate Americans, however, I just wish he'd return to the old journalism standards of focusing on facts.
 

AlterAntiscia

Premium Member
In whole signs houses, Carlson's Mercury moves to the 12th house, which gives it much more of the flavor of the liar or trickster.
He has Mercury in 12th in quadrant houses by declination. He is a pretty forceful speaker with a very bold perspective but I wouldn’t say Mercury is a huge factor in this as much as some other placements which may not be readily obvious to you
 

ElenaJ

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No politics, just astrology.
The legal case between Dominion and Fox was settled out of court, so nothing has been completely proven or dis-proven.
Thanks wilsontc for starting the thread.

I've redrawn the charts, so also inserted POF and name asteroid Tucker. And added the progressed natal chart.

Some very powerful and concentrated aspects are in the natal chart.
Moon/sun conjunction opposing Neptune.
Mercury opposing mars.
Pluto/jupiter/SN/uranus trine sun/moon.

Moon rules the ascendent, mars in creative 5th rules the MH, mercury the 3rd of communication.
It's clear he is in journalism, and with Neptune he is in show business rather than newspaper writing.

The charts attached are drawn up with the transits for the 24th of April, which is when the case exploded.
Neptune transiting over natal NN, Sun and NN transiting over natal Saturn.
Transiting venus/moon on mercury opposing mars.
Transiting pluto trine natal sun.

In the progressed chart:
Mercury is the new ascendent and MH ruler.
Transiting sun/NN is exactly conjunct Saturn, ruler of the 5th and 6th..
His natal virgo stellium is now conjunct ascendent, making him much more forceful, and work oriented, detailed and precise, with respect to the more timid natal cancer ascendent (now we know where he gets his soft rounded facial features from!) .
Transiting Neptune exactly trine natal Neptune, so he is fine tuning his screen presentation.
Progressed Neptune in 3rd with retrograde progressed mars closing in on the conjunction.
This can be deception, but also inspiration. It also has a basis in theology. Which way will he go with it?
It's helped by the transiting pluto in sextile from 5th, creativity. Pluto is the researcher. Getting down to the root, the facts.
We now see SN almost conjunct Pluto in 1st house.
The natal trine between Venus and mars, MH and IC, is now an opposition. Tensions. And it has strengthened, as the orb is almost exact with MH. Uranus is in exact sextile and trine with the opposition, with Uranus ruling 6th house in the progressed chart.
Mercury has just progressed past a square to progressed Uranus, showing a loss of income, and involving the 6th, an unexpected job loss.

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waybread

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Elena, I love your astrology.

I am curious to learn how you see my analysis, starting with transiting Pluto in the 7th house of litigation square Saturn.

I would just point out the obvious. Carlson's damning emails are a matter of public record. They were part of the evidence in Dominion's lawsuit against Fox News.

Nobody settles a lawsuit for 3/4 of a billion dollars unless they know they were at fault and really, really do not want the public embarrassment of the case going to trial.

I think Carlson was fired as much as for his criticizing his superiors at Fox News, as for his blatant lying on-air about the 2020 election outcome.

Seriously.
 

ElenaJ

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transiting Pluto in the 7th house
The 7th is also the "other", which in his case is also his public.
Major transformation of his image.
I'm curious about how it is effecting his marriage and homelife.
The Venus/mars trine covers the relationship between career and home/family, MH and IC, and it has progressed into an opposition.
 

AlterAntiscia

Premium Member
While I can’t speak much on whether Tucker lied or whether his conspiracy theories are inaccurate, I think some members responding to this thread sound really lost….

The main post already states that Transit Saturn activates these events & I have to agree because Tucker’s profection starting in September 2022 had Capricorn rising thus Saturn becomes a time lord & T Saturn squares natal Sun/Moon during events leading up to the lawsuit.
 

ElenaJ

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I can’t speak much on whether Tucker lied or whether his conspiracy theories are inaccurate,
Actually, none of us really can.
What we should probably concentrate on, is what is happening with his chart(s) that reflect the sudden media explosion of the situation.
 

waybread

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AlterAntisicia, taking a more traditional look at Carlson's Saturn in his 10th house of career, if we go by Ptolemaic aspects alone, Saturn is unaspected. It has no essential dignity. Its ruler Venus is in detriment, with no essential dignity While not technically feral, I think there is a "wild" aspect to Carlson's Saturn because it's not well socialized into other planets in the chart.

Carlson seemed to see himself as a law onto himself. I think his fans loved him for it, but he was a very polarizing figure on Fox News.

If we follow the dispositer chain around the horoscope, we get Mars retrograde, the ruler of Venus, disposited by Jupiter in its fall/detriment in Virgo, with a domiciled Mercury in Gemini as his final dispositor. This is all well and good, but in WSH, Mercury is in the 12th house (deception.)

The moon is exalted but I don't know what you would make of combustion and the 29th degree.

Saturn rules Carlson's 7th house of litigation and open enemies.

Carlson's TV ratings demonstrate his loyal audience base; but realistically, I see this horoscope as indicating a troubled person. Transiting Saturn in the 7th house of litigation hasn't done him any favors.

The facts of Carlson's emails and his firing from Fox News are incontrovertible. Carlson's emails state that he knew full well that Trump lost the 2020 election. He broadcast the lie of a stolen election because Rupert Murdoch and the Fox management team wanted to keep up their pro-Trump audience and ratings. That's now in the court documents. His emails were submitted as evidence in the Dominion lawsuit. Fox News never contested their authenticity in court. We all agree that Carlson was fired.

I doubt that rightwing media are giving out all of the facts.
 

ElenaJ

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by Ptolemaic aspects alone, Saturn is unaspected. It has no essential dignity.
Saturn rules Carlson's 7th house of litigation and open enemies.
This is a very curious situation. Thanks for picking up on this, Waybread.
How does an un-aspected planet express itself in a natal chart?
It can't "hook" onto another energy for development, and it isn't brought into play by being approached by other planets.
We know Saturn is responsibility, stricture, regulations and rules, ambition.
It is where we apply the brakes and where the brakes are applied to our actions.
It is the task master, the teacher.

Here is a good take on it, and especially considering Carlson's Saturn is in 10th.

Unaspected Saturn: Disconnected Father, Intensified Ambition

Unaspected Saturn possibly suggests a lack of support from the father figure. Emphasis on work accomplishment or self-discipline may compensate for initial insecurity. Unaspected Saturn can also suggest intensified ambition, especially in terms of Saturn’s sign and house placement.

So:
Intensified ambition. Lack of support from the father figure.
All of this perhaps to attract the approval of the father? Ambition to "compensate" for insecurity?

If we look at the midpoints, we find the Saturn/Jupiter midpoint at 14 cancer.
Jupiter is knowledge. It is also religion.
So we have the teacher, and knowledge in exact square to Venus, near the MH.
We know the MH is how a person is perceived.
Venus is kind, warm, friendly, in Aries it is aggressive.
So we do have a Saturn role in the chart...
The energy of teaching and higher education, is part of the kind friendly image of the personality.
(Remember we are not making judgements here, just analysing!).
Carlson often refers to religion in his presentations.
And he presents the story, or the topic, in a didactic manner, one easily grasped by the public.
He lays out a series of facts about a situation, that he then develops, sometimes with an interview of someone, but always with informative references. This is part of his base style.

Another midpoint is Saturn/NN which is exactly at 14 Aries, exactly on that friendly, kind and charming Venus on MH!
The Nodes are relationships, and Saturn rules the 7th of Carlson's "other", his public.
This is another step towards understanding his enormous popularity with the public.

Another midpoint .... Saturn/neptune, the weaving of the storyline, the telling of the facts in an imaginative way.
The midpoint is at 14 Aquarius, this time exactly trine his kind and charming Venus on MH!
He weaves the tale in a serious way, charming his audience.
This is something like a Pied Piper effect!

The 14 Aquarius point also just happens to be the Venus/mars midpoint!

Venus in Aries is weakened by being in detriment, while it is in the sign of Saturn's fall, but Saturn's natural house, the 10th.
Venus is in the Terms of mercury... all this takes place in the sphere of communication !

Saturn is in the sign of Venus, triplicity of Venus, terms of Venus, and Face of mercury!

This native couldn't have done anything other than the job he does!
And he was almost destined to have great success at it.

It's an amazing picture puzzle that once put together gives us a fascinating glimpse at astrology at work.
 

ElenaJ

Well-known member
The facts of Carlson's emails and his firing from Fox News are incontrovertible. Carlson's emails state that he knew full well that Trump lost the 2020 election. He broadcast the lie of a stolen election because Rupert Murdoch and the Fox management team wanted to keep up their pro-Trump audience and ratings. That's now in the court documents. His emails were submitted as evidence in the Dominion lawsuit. Fox News never contested their authenticity in court. We all agree that Carlson was fired.
Actually, Fox did dispute the emails, not only Carlson's but the others from staff as well, as being taken out of context and heavily redacted. Having settled out of court, we'll never get the true story about this.
Especially not with transiting Neptune on NN.

I doubt that rightwing media are giving out all of the facts.
Not to mention leftwing media!
Transiting Neptune opposing Carlson's 3rd house

Let's keep left - right- and in-between out of the thread, if possible....
 

waybread

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Elena, here is a bit about Tucker Carlson's father. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Carlson Dad seems to have had a difficult early life, but to have had a successful career thereafter. Tucker Carlson's father seems to have been a good dad, so"intensified ambition" (as you wrote re: an unaspected Saturn) seems very much like Tucker.

In my posts, I have focused on undeniable facts. Are you suggesting that liberal media would lie about court documents that are in the public record? Are you suggesting that Tucker Carlson somehow was not fired from Fox News?

Who redacted those emails? Dominion had no power to do that. It must have been Fox News with the court's agreement or the court itself.

Generally a judge would order emails redacted if they were (a) irrelevant to the proceedings, and (b) prejudicial to the party accused of wrong-doing, but in a way deemed immaterial to the case. Post-settlement, Carlson or Fox could have the full text of those emails released if they thought it would be helpful to them. But keep in mind that Carlson and Fox are now enemies, each threatening secret dossiers to damage the other.

Then let's look at sweet reason. Who pays $785,000,000 to Dominion Voting Systems if they think they can prevail in Dominion's lawsuit against them??? To argue that a settlement does not prove anything does not compute. Why settle if you are confident that you will win? Fox has far deeper pockets than Dominion, for a protracted legal battle.

And here's the other (astrological) thing.) A lot of rightwingers adore Tucker Carlson, but to put it mildly, he is a highly polarizing figure to everyone else. (Such as moderate Republicans.) I think he is a pulpit bully and anti-science, so obviously "warm and friendly" doesn't fit all viewers'perceptions when he assaults his favorite targets like climate change and Covid vaccinations.

I have no problem in looking at midpoints, but I don't think they will tell a story that we don't see in the major themes of Carlson's chart.

To be really meaningful, a midpoint should hit something important in the nativity. And then we have to be clear about what it means. Venus in detriment in Aries (squared by Jupiter/Saturn) is not a warm fuzzy midpoint contact, due to Saturn and the square. Indeed, Carlson comes across as very aggressive, notably when whaling into his favorite targets.

I have never heard of the lunar nodes indicating relationships, unless they fall into a relationship house.

Saturn has nothing to do with "weaving story lines." Mercury, yes. And note the Mars opposition to Mercury. Note that Carlson's Neptune opposes his sun-Moon conjunction.

I have no problem in seeing Tucker Carlson as astrologically suited to being a TV broadcaster, aside from the point that he knew he was lying about the 2020 election. Journalist standards alone dictate truthfulness. But I think it's inaccurate to paint Carlson as somehow kindly and charming. Perhaps he's like that in person, but his pending lawsuit by one of his former staffers will portray him as a misogynist bully behind the TV set.
 

waybread

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Where are you picking up on this in the chart?
I am picking up Carlson as a troubled person astrologically from the more detailed traditional reading I gave earlier today, and (modernly) from his sun-moon conjunction opposite Neptune, and his Mercury opposite Mars retrograde.

The moon is out of bounds. Carlson's mother left the family when he was 6, and his father got custody of him and his brother. However, Dad remarried-- an heiress, so the family was financially well off.

If I didn't see Carlson's bombast on Fox News, I would say, this is a person with self-worth issues. Neptune tends to erase or dissolve what it touches. With the sun involved, Neptune is liable to lead to low self-esteem and difficulty in being realistic about oneself. Mars retrograde indicates people who are very hard on themselves.

Retrograde Mars is out-of-bounds and counter-parallel Carlson's moon and Mercury within the degree. (counter-parallels working like oppositions.)

Of course psychologists will tell us that bullies typically over-compensate for inner fears of weakness.

The real mitigators in Carlson's charts are the Point of Thales planets (that sextile one member of an opposition and trine the other.) But Pluto, Uranus, and Jupiter as outlets for a sun-moon opposition with Neptune precisely seem like someone who would look to sh*t-disturbing as a way to release his inner tension.

Saturn does make some minor aspects. The sesqui-square to Mars (tension) and the quintile to his third house Jupiter, indicating talent plus ambition to manifest it-- in the house of communication.

Obviously Tucker Carlson did very well in his career, reputed to be making $13 million per year as a Fox News celebrity. He's a wealthy man.

It will be interesting to see how he reformulates his career,
 

ElenaJ

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here is a bit about Tucker Carlson's father. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Carlson Dad seems to have had a difficult early life, but to have had a successful career thereafter. Tucker Carlson's father seems to have been a good dad, so"intensified ambition" (as you wrote re: an unaspected Saturn) seems very much like Tucker.
Fascinating family history, thanks for this. Amazing the likeness to the photo of his father.

In my posts, I have focused on undeniable facts. Are you suggesting that liberal media would lie about court documents that are in the public record? Are you suggesting that Tucker Carlson somehow was not fired from Fox News?

Who redacted those emails? Dominion had no power to do that.
The case was settled out of court, so nothing further may come to light on this. Dominion submitted the documents as part of their case, and they were accused, by the opposing side, of having taken the quotes out of context and redacting them. The court of course never got to the point of asking for the un-redacted documents, because of the settlement.

To argue that a settlement does not prove anything does not compute. Why settle if you are confident that you will win?
Hundreds do this. Just to avoid long drawn out court cases, where mudslinging can do a great deal of damage, whether or not a case is won. You can be as confident as you want, but it's never over until it's over, as they say, and there are no guarantees you will win, even if you are on the "right" side.

A lot of rightwingers adore Tucker Carlson
A lot of viewers followed him and enjoyed his presentations. He is a very able communicator.

I think he is a pulpit bully and anti-science, so obviously "warm and friendly" doesn't fit all viewers'perceptions when he assaults his favorite targets like climate change and Covid vaccinations.
He doesn't bully anyone. He examines cases, presenting info to the public.
You assume your opinions are "correct" and don't agree with him, but millions do agree with him.
Please let's not go down the left-winger/rightwinger road, and just analyse him and his life and work with his chart. No polemics.

looking at midpoints, but I don't think they will tell a story that we don't see in the major themes of Carlson's chart.

To be really meaningful, a midpoint should hit something important in the nativity.
In fact, the midpoints add to the general picture, they are not the main factor, but give added insight.

Venus in detriment in Aries (squared by Jupiter/Saturn) is not a warm fuzzy midpoint contact, due to Saturn and the square.
Venus is Venus.

I have never heard of the lunar nodes indicating relationships, unless they fall into a relationship house.
"The Lunar Nodes represent life lessons that we need to learn to realize our full potential. These lessons are about how we relate to other people and are associated with certain relationship patterns.

Identifying the blocks that prevent the development of harmonious and happy relationships is one of the goals of studying the Lunar Nodes in the birth chart."


The relationship of aspects to the nodes in the natal chart can give us more insight into how a person relates to others.
The difference, for example, between Saturn square Nodes and Venus square nodes, etc, in a natal can reinforce or weaken other configurations in the chart.

And note the Mars opposition to Mercury. Note that Carlson's Neptune opposes his sun-Moon conjunction.
Mars gives an active mind, and the overly energetic mars opposition can come out at times as snappiness.
Also, lots and lots of communication, talking. It's energy, that can help and can overdo as well. It's the tendency to blurt out thoughts. And Carlson is never lacking for words.
The Neptune opposition can give a lack of self-esteem, and shyness.
The other day I was looking at the actor John Forsythe's chart, he has an exact sun/neptune opposition.
Excellent actor, and giving that somewhat shy timidness (Waybread, don't jump out of your seat, please!) that Neptune lends to the character.
Neptune gives the possibility of rendering allure and illusion, especially on the screen, whether cinema or TV or social media.
Makes for very good actors, and unfortunately also lends itself to addiction, drugs/alcohol problems that so many in the industry suffer from.
It's all in how you channel it.

The moon is out of bounds. Carlson's mother left the family when he was 6, and his father got custody of him and his brother. However, Dad remarried-- an heiress, so the family was financially well off.
Interesting to look into Tucker Carlson's wife's chart. The moon is not only his mother, but women in general.

Mars retrograde indicates people who are very hard on themselves.
Hmmm. My mars is retrograde. I've always equated it with peddling backwards, psychologically.

The real mitigators in Carlson's charts are the Point of Thales planets (that sextile one member of an opposition and trine the other.)
" It is a great asset in enabling you to use your opposition in a balanced, co-operative way that benefits all parties.

Therefore the Point of Thales pattern in astrology can describe an excellent negotiator, or someone who is able to solve disputes and disagreements harmoniously."


Saturn does make some minor aspects. The sesqui-square to Mars (tension) and the quintile to his third house Jupiter, indicating talent plus ambition to manifest it-- in the house of communication.

Obviously Tucker Carlson did very well in his career, reputed to be making $13 million per year as a Fox News celebrity. He's a wealthy man.

It will be interesting to see how he reformulates his career,
Indeed.

Thanks Waybread for your reply, thought provoking as always!
 

ElenaJ

Well-known member
Here is the chart of a well-known and accomplished entertainment personality, born two days before Carlson.
Same sun/neptune opposition, mercury/mars opposition, Venus in Aries trine mars. Venus rules the ascendent.
Here too Saturn is practically not integrated into the chart, the conjunction with moon is very wide.
This is important because Saturn is MH ruler.
So is this chart of a troubled person? A liar?
Actually we can't really know this, because like with Carlson we only see the public persona, not the intimate private personality.
We do know they are very successful. Widely acclaimed for their beauty. Very wealthy. Very outspoken on political issues.
At 10 years of age the father died, and the mother was left to raise the children.
For the moment I won't name the personality, to avoid being influenced by what we know of the person.
This is a person you would probably admire.


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Dingo

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2 days difference in date of birth - plus other AC?
What kind of astrology is this supposed to be?

Not only the two completely different AC, just a moon in Aries from her to his moon in Taurus results in a completely different statement.

Is that supposed to be an attempt to relieve TuCa ?

Dingo
 
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