Such an interesting thread!
For predictions like what you’re talking about concerning a public personality the life of whom affects world events,
I mean, we’re talking about a presidential election of arguably the most powerful country in the world (depending how you look at it), not whether Joe Shmo is getting re-elected to the local playground commission,
Excellent points, well made
so given the world-wide impact of everything that guy does, what kind of predictive method is called for here, in your opinion?
Indeed clearly, MUNDANE ASTROLOGY is a predictive method
frequently utilised in such cases
Mundane astrology, the study of heavenly cycles upon groups and nations
is the most ancient branch of astrology.
The affairs of a nation can be judged
from the horoscope set up at the time of its official inauguration
the birth chart of its leader
various phenomena such as
eclipses, lunations, great conjunctions, stations, comets and ingresses.
Among these, ingresses have a traditional reputation
as the most important mundane event.
And maybe, once we agree on the type of chart needed, we should do it. Sort of like a collective project. Regardless of what our own politics are like. Personally I’m always in favor of clarity. I like to know how things work. I want to understand the mechanics. Does that make sense?
1) At the top there is MUNDANE horoscopy.
What is indicated by the great conjunctions
cannot be overridden by individual natal charts
e.g. if a mundane chart indicates war
everyone will experience war
regardless of the indications in their respective natal charts.
re: NATAL horoscopy - a LEADER’s natal chart may override indications in individual natal charts
since the decisions of people in leading positions pertain to the masses.
and in this case a comparison of 45 aka Trumps VENUS SATURN conjunction
with the MUNDANE charts
is the way forward
Mundane astrology is very Hierarchical
Starting with the Grand Conjunction - a Natal Chart is 7th in the pecking order
Horary is below a Natal Chart and is lowest on the Mundane Hierarchy
re: 45 aka Trump natal - begin by comparison with current GRAND CONJUNCTION chart
Grand Conjunction 1702
21 May 1702
Federal Hall, New York