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BOOGY99

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hi
i have been testing my transits and progressions since october 09

i have sun progressed to natal venus in libra in the 2nd house 17deg

i had transiting jupiter trine natal venus, and plenty conj by mercury, venus, sun, moon by transit in libra.

this should of been a positive time for me and nothing has happened.

Jupiter transits trine Venus You are feeling generous and romantic during this transit. This positive attitude can help you attract positive experiences and situations. You are very creative, and your social life is activated or enhanced. Jupiter is acting to expand your desire for pleasure, romance, and material goods as well. This is a favorable time to start a new endeavor, especially one that is intended for profit (unless, of course, there are other serious afflictions). This is also a favorable time to start a new relationship. The only potential problem associated with this transit is the tendency to be a little too carefree and to pass opportunities away with an overly optimistic attitude. Keep your eyes open to potential opportunities.

i have read the book, planets in transit by robert hand, and i am aware you have to do an average and try and get it to 0 for timing divide by the number of planets involved.

also does anybody know about precession correction values mine is 39'22 which needs to be added.

Is it possible that transits can happen when seperating?

you can bet if there was a negitive transit, it would work!!! lol
 
astrologer50

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astro.com has fee six month transit forecast plus when you get into Extended chart selection, look at the three tabs after calculating a chart under ‘method’ default is circular wheels (on left), middle is special charts and in their you get graphic ephemeris 1yr (or 5years) with natal = transits for 1yr and lots more. BUT you first must learn or memorise the 'glyphs' ie: shorthand for recognising what these maps/graphics mean.

For example when you post or reply to a chart the 'smilies' to the right and just under them [more] if you click on there it will bring up a whole loads of 'glyphs' Mercury:mercury: Uranus :uranus:conjunction:conjunct: (+or - 8') trine :trine:aspect 120' :libra:Libra
http://cafeastrology.com/transits.html
http://cafeastrology.com/transits_2.html
http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_fh_transits_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_transits_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2009.pdf
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/oct2009gmt.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php

progressed sun onto natal venus can suggest like the natal aspect, an 'inner cheerfulness' and love of life. Now your Venus is 'unaspected' which can go from one extreme to the other when talking about socialising and romance. Sometime can pay to much attention to clothes, appearance, presentation and at other times simply just don't care. So, this should have given your venus some 'focus' and ego and pride connected to your personal beliefs and values, and poss maybe how you earn your living to. So, progressions are 1' approaching, 1'=1year exact and 1' departing. So it's only just exact now----

Sometimes, in fact most times predictive techniques don't produce concrete results cos most change happens, 'between the ears' so to speak....

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars espec are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67

T Saturn has just come off your Mercury in first house and I expect this has put a bit of a dampner on your confidence and communications, great for study mind and cos your merc is square mars, therefore T Saturn will also square mars, has this created a kind of stop/go situations bits of frustrations.sometimes acting and then feeling held back and in check by Saturn?

Notice also T Uranus has been quincunxing your mercury in 1st. This may have caused sudden arguements, disruptions or flashes of insight that you may not have been able to ground or do anything with. Mental restlessness, instability, irritablity??

Also, T Pluto is opposing natal mars. A time of intense ego testing....you may be on the receiving end of someone trying to control you or vice versa. As mars/aries rules 8th and is conj moon, be careful of women or mother and whomever you share your finances with.:whistling:

*Your ambition and drive to succeed are incredibly strong now. You will go to any lengths to achieve your goals, and you have the energy to do it now. You are driven by a compulsive need to achieve, and you often find it difficult to stop.
http://cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html

Your progressed Asc is now 1' off 18' conj your natal venus. So this gives more outlet for venusian energies-- have you softened? become more graceful? focusing on partnerships? wanting to be more sociable, romantic perhaps?
 
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BOOGY99

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very interesting astro 50

i would say i have gone more materalistic, as i just want my freedom to do the things i want.
i love clothes and i have a wardrobe full of them, and i love beauty too.
so i would say that my progressed sun/asc in libra is correct regarding my personality.
along with my natal moon in cancer lol

also my progressed moon is in pisces, and i have been very sensitive.

i have felt the frustrations of saturn these past months, but it seems to be getting better.

i think i must be a bit of a dreamer as i always think of positive outcomes, then when it does not happen, i fall like a ton of bricks lol.

thanks again, i will check out the links xxx
 
Claire19

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You have I presume natal contacts with these planets involved in the transits??? They wont have any effect otherwise. We always need the back up of the natal chart which is our potential and life plan being triggered off.

Progressions also need a natal back up. With the three charts having the same planets in aspect there is an inevitable influence according to the planets and the houses they are affecting.

Basic rule:

Transits and progressions need the natal planets also in aspect, not necessarily the same aspects but a connection and major aspects at that.
Transitting nodes are not valid either.
 
Claire19

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Olivia said:
I don't put much stock in transits alone, but what relationship are your natal Venus and Jupiter in? If they have no relationship, a transit or progression wouldn't activate anything - there's nothing to be activated.
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Right on!!!
 
astrologer50

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astro09 said:
With progr sun conj N venus, TJupiter trine this conj as well as T Nep...Nothing has happened...
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BOOGY99

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astro09 said:
With progr sun conj N venus, TJupiter trine this conj as well as T Nep...Nothing has happened...
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nothing, but i forgot, natal venus and jupiter/nep are not in any aspect natally, so would not add up to much.

thought the prog sun conj natal venus and progressed uranus by sa would of brought an event, but progressions are inner changes and not events, so i am told.

anyway, the progression is still active, so still being tested.

sorry re my chart, i will have to do another one xx
 
gemini59

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I have found that for venus subjects the venus return is helpful. Since it is being triggered by progression this would be a good time for a Venus return. I have validated that the vertex and node in hard aspect in a venus return is an indication of meeting someone with whom you have a fated connection. But Venus rules my 7th house. Still Venus is the planet of harmony, love and relationships. For you,since it occupies the 2nd of finance . With Jupiter involved there may be a tendency to overspend, over eat or over indulge and become too lazy! Jupiter is nice but it 'expands' whatever it touches.
I had progressed sun conjunct venus a few years back. Nada and in fact quite the opposite as I can mark this as the time my relationship of 14 years began dissolving in true neptune fashion. I discovered that Venus is at the sun moon midpoint and since it is part of the sun moon midpoint equation its effect was nullified.
I would also support others statements that for something to happen externally, a major event of some type like falling in love or meeting another or a shift in your life you would use the rule of three or needing to see the same theme by house or/and planets repeated at least three times and more than that and it should be part of the natal potential. In addition, for timing look for similar transits thus the sun conjunct venus by progression might be triggered by the suns aspect to venus like right now venus and the sun are conjunct would be a good indicator.
 
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I have to tell you that waiting for 'visible' good things to 'happen' to you during trines is gonna make you very frustrated....LOL

And you are right about "if it was a square" etc, yeah, you would notice it.

Let's say you get on a plane and go on vacation and have a nice time and come home safely. You take that for granted, right?

But that is what trines look like.

If there were several heavy squares, you probably would have had a 3 hour wait for the plane to take off, lost your luggage, had rain several days of your vacation and missed your flight home because the car you were in on the way to the airport had a flat tire and since you were already late because you tripped on a rubber mat in the lobby of your hotel, and twisted your ankle and had to get some ice to put on it.....

well, you get the picture.
We take for granted the good things that happen....the things that go smoothly...
we only notice when things inconvenience or hurt or bother us.

This is the short answer.
LIN
 
Claire19

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Separating aspects are weakening effects. Remember that the transits and progressions have to have the same contacts in the natal chart.
Not necessarily the same aspects but the planets must make a major aspect of some kind. This is the basis of prediction and it is all set from the birth chart. So it is fated in a large way.

So if something is not working, I would suggest that the natal chart does not hold that promise.
 
Claire19

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astro09 said:
With progr sun conj N venus, TJupiter trine this conj as well as T Nep...Nothing has happened...
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You dont have a Sun Venus contact natally then. Or a natal Jupiter contact to the SUn or Venus natally. Neptune obviously not connected either?????
 
astro09

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Claire19 said:
Separating aspects are weakening effects. Remember that the transits and progressions have to have the same contacts in the natal chart.
Not necessarily the same aspects but the planets must make a major aspect of some kind. This is the basis of prediction and it is all set from the birth chart. So it is fated in a large way.

So if something is not working, I would suggest that the natal chart does not hold that promise.
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Claire, how about temporary activation by progression? When there is a major aspect natally, then the progression between them- the effect is more intense --based on the natal promise.
 
Claire19

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Yes a progression would be valid if the natal contacts between the planets concerned are there.....but the outer planets for instance barely change in our lifetime so the personal planets must be contacted to feel any effects.

Once again the nature of the planets involved say on what level it will be experienced. The air signs for the mind and the intellect. The earth signs for effects on a material practical level, the water signs for emotional effects etc. Also a square would be more inward and an opposition manifesting outside with others.
 
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