timing of injuries

Outlook

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this is where I find DDs preference for helio charts is never going to work. for fun…my last dental appointment where the cap dentist made didnt fit….because mercury just went Rx so it needs redoing…so he put in a temp to last till my next visit to London in September….that he didnt fit properly and now I am finding chewing painful. so I have had to delay planned return to crete on Monday by a week, so I can schedule another appointment for him to rework the tooth before it causes breakage from wrong pressure.

so if we used helio…..moon is always going to be conj earth….and all humanity shares this event chart. it wont work! it cant evn work for investments, the market…anything.
 

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joke n

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I remember a thread at astro.com where we had to guess at what exact time someone had suffered an injurie. of course he had 4 event charts where you could see an option in each chart.

This was one of the few riddles I got right. if I'm correct, it was because I used the event chart over the primary chart. ( van dam). and use the ASC lord of the natal chart . there were 2 clear saturn conjunctions in that chart. and a third obstruction. I would like to ask if you would like to send your birth data etc via PM and that I can take a look ?
and the time of the injury must also be exact and not vague. round and about can be tricky..
could you also sent the place and timing of the injury ?
would like to see if that synastry is active here as well.
 
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Monk

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Hi ElenaJ
You asked me to transfer this from other thread.
Here it is. Looking forward to read your take on this.

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The I.C, Nadir is at 14* 02' Cancer, Sirius is at 14* as well by projected measure, link below:-

So the bite chart is very interesting on the foot. The I.C. is the foundation of the chart like a foot!
Sirius is in the mouth of the Dog conjunct the I.C. by under a degree by projected measure.
So ElenaJ , painfully you was bitten by the Dog Star which is ironic!
There are other coincidences, meet Sirius dog below:-
He died on 9/11, on a special day for Sirius, being a date that symbolizes Sirius rising with the Sun in the last remnant of the Coptic/ancient Egyptian Calendar, being new year, called Thout or Thoth
 
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waybread

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Outlook -- an event chart of the moment wouldn't so much relate to me personally without my nativity. I post only what I call my "close enough chart" that is a slight modification of my actual data, to preserve my anonymity and privacy. So timing might not accurate. Let me think about what might produce something reasonably informative.
 

Outlook

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Waybread the idea was to gain experience in event charts. they arent specifically personal, which is good. but its ok if you need to be more security conscious since you tend to be online more. and people are def. getting weirder. plus this site allows search engine access so not a good thing to expose personal stuff.
 

Outlook

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Interesting. I understood that that Sagittarius rules the buttocks, hips and thighs? And that Libra rules the kidneys, lower back, bladder and ovaries, and has a general rulership over the blood?
libra rules balance and aesthetics…the look, feel. capricorn rules skeleton and joints. so pluto in cap remodelled the left joint. right doesnt need it.

sag for me, being a motion based sign. rules the propulsion aspects…..the horse half.
 

waybread

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Outlook, I appreciate your interest, but rather than go through a big hassle trying to get something that looks right for my "close enough" relocated chart with transits, I'll just give the salient information. I also don't want to give out my current location, as I live in a very small community.

On April 10 at around 10:00 am I broke a bone in my left foot. (Outer metatarsal bone.)This was just before the star of an exercise class, when I basically tripped over my own foot.

Transiting Saturn in Pisces opposite natal Saturn in Virgo in the 12th house on April 10 was close to exact. Natally my Mars at 0 Pisces in my 6th house opposes natal Saturn. Pisces and the 12th house rule the feet. Saturn rules the bones.

The moon applied to my natal Chiron in Sagittarius in the 3rd house, Within a degree. This worries me a bit, as Chiron symbolizes wounds that don't heal properly.

My book with the Ebertin anatomical degrees crawled off and I haven't been able to get an on-line version without a subscription or turning off my ad-blocker. Sometimes these work really well with transits or solar arcs.

If you've got other questions, I can try to respond.
 

joke n

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On Feb 3rd I was bitten rather severely by a dog, near my ankle, so maybe also pisces.
I have the chart, and just as you worked it out, in my case as well I can see how it happened and the entire scene around it.
Of course, seeing it beforehand might have saved me a lot of pain and bother.
When it happened, I didn't tell anyone, just drove to Emergency. Note the event ascendent is on my natal Midheaven.
Turned out, everyone knew! They were all asking me how I was.
My public image (MH) was filtered through the event ascendent (blew it out into the world!).
So, the dog, 6th ruler mercury, at 19 Capricorn in my natal 12th... snuck up on me from behind my back! Secret enemy.
The woman I was guiding, who I do not like very much, is 7th with South Node there. In dark scorpio, a large looming threatening black cloaked figure that aroused the dog.
The 7th, in this case of open enemies, is Venus, in 12th and squaring mars, ascendent ruler in the 2nd. We didn't get along well.
The 2nd, house of self-esteem, I was taken back because I get along very well with dogs... why did he bite me of all people!
Uranus in 1st house, full of surprises, exactly squares sun in Aquarius, exactly conjunct my progressed sun and Venus.
My progressed sun/venus in my natal 7th, open enemies, with me being cordial and nice to her (Venus and sun)!
Note the 6th is also work, so the event 6th ruler mercury, me accompanying her (travel!) and talking (mercury communications).
Mercury of the event chart on the MH, this was career/work related.
By law, the ER had to make an official report about the attack.
I know who the dog owner is, but did not report him, only the general location of the attack. Neptune in 12th of secrets.
The local authority has advised him to take certain precautions to ensure it doesn't happen to others.

Finally, there was quite a bit of discussion about whether or not to close the wound with stitches.
The doctor wanted to do stitches, the staff all advised against it.
He is 7th, Venus, squaring mars in gemini, the sign of mercury, general opinion.
Venus is convinced, being exalted in pisces, in the sign of mercury's detriment and fall. So Venus won out.
Mercury rules 6th of health. It would have been better to not do stitches, but he did. It was not in my best interest, Venus is in the 12th.

By the way, the bite was on my ankle, which is Aquarius..... back to the sun square Uranus aspect, where sun is conjunct my progress sun/venus!

As I wrote earlier, the chart is like a photograph of the event!

In fact, not to leave anything out of the photo, my progressed mars is at 16 cancer, progressed Saturn is at 19 cancer, midpoint is exactly the event moon at 18 cancer!



Can't make it up, can you!




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hi Elena J, i was looking at your eventchart of your injury. what i would like to add is;
asc is in strong moving aries. and taurus is intercepted. so you would have 2 rulers.
co ruler 1 st house, body - makes a square to mars. the attack,
mars as the attack and also the ruler of ASC, body is parallel on mercury, ruler of the 6th. also injury and small pets. and co parallel -opposite the moon. timing

then the ruler of the 1st, body, makes a square to venus in pisces. rules the feet. the degree venus is in, is about the metatarsus in the left foot. Nothing there
the cusp of the 12th is in the 8th degree pisces and rules the left ankle. i dont know which ankle it was ? Because Pisces moves so fast round the Asc, the other ankle is in another degree next.
12th house also rules unknown enemies.. maybe far fetched..
why it was you and not that lady ? I suspect that the dog is attacking the one who poses a threat. You were the one who was active and maybe during Aries period on Cusp 1 pushed a little harder or radiated anger that you had towards the one who you were pushing ?
 
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ElenaJ

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Hi ElenaJ
You asked me to transfer this from other thread.
Here it is. Looking forward to read your take on this.

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The I.C, Nadir is at 14* 02' Cancer, Sirius is at 14* as well by projected measure, link below:-

So the bite chart is very interesting on the foot. The I.C. is the foundation of the chart like a foot!
Sirius is in the mouth of the Dog conjunct the I.C. by under a degree by projected measure.
So ElenaJ , painfully you was bitten by the Dog Star which is ironic!
There are other coincidences, meet Sirius dog below:-
He died on 9/11, on a special day for Sirius, being a date that symbolizes Sirius rising with the Sun in the last remnant of the Coptic/ancient Egyptian Calendar, being new year, called Thout or Thoth
Finally catching up a bit on the thread. And very glad I did indeed!

Checking the link Monk posted about Sirius:

12.1 Sirius – 14.0 Cancer 15′​

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Sirius is the brightest star in the sky, located in the mouth of the dog symbolized by the constellation Canis Major.

Yes, I was literally in the mouth of the dog! The chart IC is at 14 Cancer.

More from the link, slightly cropped text:


Symbolism:

– fame, Everyone knew about it!

– sacrifice of the individual life for the community, success in public life may destroy personal life; I was there working as a public administrator, which is why I was accompanying this woman in the black cloak!

– dogs; Exactly!

– individual action may have important collective effects, Action was taken to correct the situation. Unfortunately in the meantime, on March 11th (time unknown) another woman was bitten by the same dog. On her arm, and a bone was broken. She extended her arm to offer him a biscuit.

It was my right foot, not sure how that shows up, but since everything else is here, including my breakfast, I'm sure it can come out1
 

ElenaJ

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Interesting. I understood that that Sagittarius rules the buttocks, hips and thighs? And that Libra rules the kidneys, lower back, bladder and ovaries, and has a general rulership over the blood?
Sort of.
You are right, hips are sagittarius, my error. As well as thighs.
Libra, though, is buttocks.
Reproductive organs and bladder, as well as blood, are scorpio.

Pisces is feet and ankles... which in reality is where I was bitten, the right ankle.


 
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ElenaJ

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asc is in strong moving aries. and taurus is intercepted. so you would have 2 rulers.
Good point.
then the ruler of the 1st, body, makes a square to venus in pisces. rules the feet. the degree venus is in, is about the metatarsus in the left foot. Nothing there
the cusp of the 12th is in the 8th degree pisces and rules the left ankle. i dont know which ankle it was ? Because Pisces moves so fast round the Asc, the other ankle is in another degree next.
It was actually the right ankle.

12th house also rules unknown enemies.. maybe far fetched..
The dog! I thought he was friendlier! He was just sitting there calmly. Until I turned my back!

why it was you and not that lady ? I suspect that the dog is attacking the one who poses a threat. You were the one who was active and maybe during Aries period on Cusp 1 pushed a little harder or radiated anger that you had towards the one who you were pushing ?
Actually, while she may have presented the threat, all wrapped up in a voluminous black cloak, I was the one who was exposed, the Active one. I hadn't been feeling anger, though, not even after the bite. Just surprise.

Joke, I wonder if you can identify why it was the right ankle and not the left?

Mercury of the event chart is in Capricorn... ruler of the teeth. The dog certainly made the most of his teeth!
 

joke n

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Cusp of 12 th house. Hidden enemies is IN the Degree of the left ankle. But within 2 minutes difference there is the degree of the right ankle. It’s ON the degree of the left ankle. 7 Pisces. But I think you must look in which degree the cusp is in.
because these signs around the Asc move so fast, and the accident can cause some 😱, that there could have been some difference in minutes ?that it happened 2 minutes earlier ?
 
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ElenaJ

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Cusp of 12 th house. Hidden enemies is IN the Degree of the left ankle. But within 2 minutes difference there is the degree of the right ankle. It’s ON the degree of the left ankle. 7 Pisces. But I think you must look in which degree the cusp is in.
because these signs around the Asc move so fast, and the accident can cause some 😱, that there could have been some difference in minutes ?that it happened 2 minutes earlier ?
Where do you find these degrees?
 

Frisiangal

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My book with the Ebertin anatomical degrees crawled off and I haven't been able to get an on-line version without a subscription or turning off my ad-blocker. Sometimes these work really well with transits or solar arcs.
Hello Waybread,
I found this site by going through the Dutch browser. No ad-blocker was involved, so you might be able to copy.

:smile:
 

waybread

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Thanks Frisiangal. I found that sometimes they didn't work (for me, anyhow,) but at other times they were uncannily accurate.
 
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