The Grand Cardinal Cross of August 2010 - Revisited

HoldOrFold

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Anyone remember the highly touted cardinal cross of August 2010? Almost every astrologer was going on about how something extreme was going to happen then. It was kind of just swept under the carpet after nothing of interest actually happened.

Has anyone got any theories as to why nothing very significant happened?
 

Awakened_Pisces

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Here's the major rule in Astrology: There's obviously more than one aspect, and all of the aspects play a part. Now a Grand Cardinal Cross isn't exactly the best thing in the world, and perhaps if by itself it would have been major. But key points:

Sun is in it's dignity and rulership in Leo, he's about to sextile both Jupiter and Uranus after having trined Jupiter. In addition, he faces no major opposition nor any squares.

Similarly, the Moon is in Gemini, not bad at all. She's also the recipent of numerous sextiles, albeit most of them are seperating.

Mercury is also in her rulership in Virgo, she's trining Pluto. Albeit seperating, but she's tightly trining the True Node as well.

Basically, albeit weak there were alot of positive energies in the universe during August. Hence, what could've been explosive turned out to be minor.
 

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HoldOrFold

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Interesting, although I would have thought at least something would have manifested from it.

Do you think it's possible that the cardinal cross planted the seeds of revolution that we're seeing in the middle east today?
 

Awakened_Pisces

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Yeah, two reasons. One, it's a Cardinal Cross. The three phases(Mutable, Cardinal, Fixed) are alot like "slow, normal and fast". Cardinal energies build up and eventually you move on them. As opposed to fixed energies that see no else, and see no reason as to stop and think. And Mutable energy, just stands still.

In the mundane perspective, think of mutable energy as silent distrust, it might not be out in the open but they do hate each other, hence is why it's mutable(more than one), then you evolve into cardinal(ready to act on it) and then fixed(action baby :D)
 

Gwenyhfair

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Personally, I entered a short lived, intensive relationship then. OOH. I was indeed waiting for the world to blow up, or at least the guy´s then ex, or mother to kill me. :w00t: But nope.

It was great thou. Just had to say this, at least somewhere something happened. I´ve been single for yeeeaaarrrssss. And you probably think what were the aspects to my natal chart of the grand cross.

Not many. I have neptune and jupiter at 1 resp 2 dgr sag and mars 7 dgr aqua. That´s the closest.
 

BobZemco

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Anyone remember the highly touted cardinal cross of August 2010? Almost every astrologer was going on about how something extreme was going to happen then. It was kind of just swept under the carpet after nothing of interest actually happened.

Has anyone got any theories as to why nothing very significant happened?

Bad astrology.

Looking at transiting Planets without relating them to some kind of base chart is foolish and irrelevant.

Also, there's no such thing as a Grand Cross. A transiting Planet can only aspect one Planet at a time. In Traditional Astrology, we say a Planet "casts its rays at another." But the funny thing is that is not Astrology, that is Science. Planets really do cast rays. Well, that is, the Inferior and Superior Planets cast rays, the Outer Planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are questionable at most. There's weak evidence that Uranus casts rays. These "rays" are electromagnetic radiation. Again, that isn't Astrology, that is Science. I've posted those studies from peer-reviewed professional scientific journals and industry publications that prove without any doubt that aspects formed by the Planets from Moon to Saturn (but not Uranus, Neptune or Pluto) interfere with the electromagnetic radiation spectrum here on Earth.

Specifically they interfere with the left side of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum. The left side moving from right to left the Color Yellow to Orange, Orange-Red, Red, Infrared and then miccrowave, radar, VHF, UHF, short-wave radio (AM Bands) to long wave radio (FM Bands).

Your brain exhibits electromagnetic waves. We can attach electrodes to your head and actually measure the electromagnetic activity and among things, tell if you're alive or dead.

Planets that are in trine or sextile enhance the electromagnetic radiation spectrum, but Planets that are in square, opposition or conjunction degrade and interfere with the electromagnetic radiation spectrum. This interference is most noticeable in the AM Band and radar bands of the spectrum.

The interference is more intense when two Planets are conjunct and in square or opposition to another. And while I did say that a Planet can only make one aspect at a time, in Traditional Astrology, we do not consider a conjunction to be an aspect. While moderns call it a "conjunction" we call it "joining corporally by body." Semantics. No, two different connotations. Something joining corporally by body implies that the "rays" or electromagnetic energy of the Planets, is increased. And how much they are increased is dependent on their parallel of declination, because if one Planet is 19***°N and the other is 19°S they aren't exactly joined, are they? No, they're in the same longitude but still separate and apart.

So when a Planet is moving toward an aspect with another, it casts its rays and its light on that Planet (the Outer Planets cast no light -- which is why you can't see them) and blocks other Planets from casting their rays or light on that Planet, and that's why only one aspect can form at a time.

And these "aspect configurations" like the "Grand Cross" and "Grand Trine" and such were ignored for 7,000 years and that wasn't by accident, it was intentional because they mean nothing, even though people go to great lengths to attach meanings to them.

When you see stuff like that it's best to ignore it, because it's nothing more than people pining for others to visit their web-site and give them advertising revenues.
 

insania

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"over hyped nonsense" may not be descriptive of the lives for the people living in any of the countries that are going through revolutions right now. While these country's mindless militaries machine gun the peaceful protestors these people are going through hell to get a fair go!

I thought we were talking about the summer 2010 cross?
 

insania

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The effects are still manifesting , try following world events, like monetary policy, poverty, revolutions, mis-use of power.

All of this things were in the making long before the 2010 cross.
 

Shuter

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I think it is not true that nothing happend. A lot happend. But you have to tkae this Cross in to context. I dont agree much taht it was a Grand Cross, i look at it as a T-quadrature on Pluto in Capricorn. Moon has in my opinion litlle infulence in this case.
Any way .. This T-quadrature is related to what Pluto is doing in Capricorn. Pluto is reforming our politics and economy, as he did it last time in Capricorn, in the 18th centurywhen the French and American revolution started. So looking at this T-quadrature from this perspective i would related to the fall of Dow Jones industrial average and pushing of QE2.
 

!4C

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My impression was that crosses create a balance of conflicting forces. Like tug-a-war, there is a tremendous amount of conflicting energy expended with little net change. The situation can become dangerous because the opposing forces can become more extreme in attempt to overpower the opposition. Another downside is when the correct action cannot be taken due to the gridlock. There is a lack of leadership.

The 2010 cross has created extreme conflict within local economies and well as the global economy. The situation will change when the balance of 2010 cross gives way to the Uranus-Pluto square of 2012-2015. By then there will most likely be direction, but it may not be a good one.
 

ptolomy

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I think your chart is a bit of a late date for what happened with that cardinal energy,In my opinion if you look at the moon transiting to the square in late July instead you will find that it conjuncted the planets of 2 different charts for Pakistan which led to the monsoon floods that flooded the country from late July till early August.
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Pakistan_floods
Chart for 23 July 2010,Chart for Pakistan 1,chart for Pakistan 2.
Notice the sun 2;26 Aries in 2nd chart for Pakistan, and Mars 0:35 cancer 1st chart for Pakistan
 

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ptolomy

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Proclamation of independence:
 

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Nothing happened?
Geological: earthquakes in china, Haiti, chile, new Zealand, japan
Financial: always watch gold to know how bad things are.. For most of my memory its always been 300-500 an oz...It's around 1800... PER OUNCE, us debt crsis, euro debt crisis, a couple BILLION people now demand middle class resources in the east...and looking hungrily at the wasted resources of the west. Appreciate their currency? To give us more time? Fat chance, theyve been starving for centuries. The demise of the ONLY global currency, the dollar.
Political: black people were considered scum for god knows how many centuries, and now a black dude is the most powerful person ALIVE. How far behind him do you think, women are, the poor, gays...they aren't blind. The middle east explodes, poor Israel is sweating BRICKs
 
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