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The Chiron opposition Saturn generation: 1986-1989
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<blockquote data-quote="stainedBlue" data-source="post: 377107" data-attributes="member: 25495"><p>It's good to know I have the right idea for Chiron. I've been particularly curious about Chiron direct, since I have the rx version of it, and viewing the expression of Chiron in others has proven to be somewhat difficult. </p><p></p><p>When I was younger I was also very inclined to questioning the authority of those that were the 'assumed authority,' and frequently questioned rules and regulations set in place by the various 'authorities.' I often met with the excuse "that's just the way things are," or something to that effect, which was very discouraging. Eventually I felt entirely defeated and largely stopped speaking for roughly three years. Not entirely silent, but significantly less vocalization than I had been employing.</p><p></p><p>For myself, at least, what you said about rx Chiron being more influential on the native, it's applicable. I've definitely gone out of my way to take it on rather than run from it. Reclaiming my voice has been anything but a walk in the park, and I'm still not out of the woods yet, but it has required substantial effort on my part and a lot of courage that I've actually felt impelled to put forward. Perhaps this is thanks to my Mars? There seems to be added emphasis on speaking my truth via the skipped step Uranus square to my nodal axis too -- though, this is probably a topic best left to another thread.</p><p></p><p>It's curious that you mention an inward psychological/spiritual approach. I've largely approached life the same way from a very early age, looking within myself for answers. I recall around age 10 coming to the conclusion that we have the universe within us, that we are the all, and the all is us. Reconciling that with my dogmatic Christian upbringing was a challenge, since I had actually found what was preached to be in many ways contrary to what the good book actually said, and often questioned it much to the chagrin of those around me that were immersed in the faith as it's preached.</p><p></p><p>Concerning my 4th house, at least in relation to this thread: my Parents have frequently been absent, or have been otherwise emotionally distant throughout my life. I've found them to be unreliable in their authority as responsible Parents because of that, and I've often found myself burdened with having to take on responsibilities that weren't mine to bear. This seems to be a Saturn in 4th type of experience, I think? Quite the loaded 4th nonetheless, and it's worth mentioning Neptune-Saturn is parallel by declination, and the same goes for Sun-Uranus, though with Sun-Uranus I suppose it further reinforces the already existing conjunction? But yes, my world is largely buried beneath the surface. A very rich, complex world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stainedBlue, post: 377107, member: 25495"] It's good to know I have the right idea for Chiron. I've been particularly curious about Chiron direct, since I have the rx version of it, and viewing the expression of Chiron in others has proven to be somewhat difficult. When I was younger I was also very inclined to questioning the authority of those that were the 'assumed authority,' and frequently questioned rules and regulations set in place by the various 'authorities.' I often met with the excuse "that's just the way things are," or something to that effect, which was very discouraging. Eventually I felt entirely defeated and largely stopped speaking for roughly three years. Not entirely silent, but significantly less vocalization than I had been employing. For myself, at least, what you said about rx Chiron being more influential on the native, it's applicable. I've definitely gone out of my way to take it on rather than run from it. Reclaiming my voice has been anything but a walk in the park, and I'm still not out of the woods yet, but it has required substantial effort on my part and a lot of courage that I've actually felt impelled to put forward. Perhaps this is thanks to my Mars? There seems to be added emphasis on speaking my truth via the skipped step Uranus square to my nodal axis too -- though, this is probably a topic best left to another thread. It's curious that you mention an inward psychological/spiritual approach. I've largely approached life the same way from a very early age, looking within myself for answers. I recall around age 10 coming to the conclusion that we have the universe within us, that we are the all, and the all is us. Reconciling that with my dogmatic Christian upbringing was a challenge, since I had actually found what was preached to be in many ways contrary to what the good book actually said, and often questioned it much to the chagrin of those around me that were immersed in the faith as it's preached. Concerning my 4th house, at least in relation to this thread: my Parents have frequently been absent, or have been otherwise emotionally distant throughout my life. I've found them to be unreliable in their authority as responsible Parents because of that, and I've often found myself burdened with having to take on responsibilities that weren't mine to bear. This seems to be a Saturn in 4th type of experience, I think? Quite the loaded 4th nonetheless, and it's worth mentioning Neptune-Saturn is parallel by declination, and the same goes for Sun-Uranus, though with Sun-Uranus I suppose it further reinforces the already existing conjunction? But yes, my world is largely buried beneath the surface. A very rich, complex world. [/QUOTE]
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