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Message: <blockquote data-quote="david starling" data-source="post: 1006961" data-attributes="member: 48819"><p>This IS an area of disagreement, although we can certainly respect the opposing point of view. I've noticed that many astrologers go with what greybeard is saying. That surprised me, because I definitely see the Ascendant as a description of the genuine, very personal view of one's innate individualistic Self. The "mask" (imo) is where the M.C. comes into play: How we present ourselves to the world in general; and, that's where our social role is important, which involves a somewhat variable persona we create. The M.C. involves our careers and our projected image. So, as I use them, the Asc is the real person, the M.C. is the mask.</p></blockquote><p></p>