Synastry: Interpretations with natal info

[winterseye]

So I'm not exactly sure where to post this, I figured I might as well put the synastry and the natal stuff together since the two natals inform the synastry. I tried posting the pictures rather than pdfs although I do prefer the pdfs for the quintiles, and couldn't post the pics anyway because my resolution seems to be different than the format required. A quick google search will clarify what the symbols in the charts mean.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any natal and/or synastry interpretations and if this needs to be moved to greenhorn's that's alright.

So the question or issue I want to discuss is how the overall alignments match. If you notice in my natal chart, there's a T-square including my sun, my moon, and 3 planets of a 4 planet stellium that's the bulk of energy in my chart. It seems to me that on my own, some of that energy may be inaccessible and hard to balance. Moving to her natal chart, you'll see most of her energy is in one big stellium, except for her moon. Interestingly, the bulk of her energy including her sun seems to activate the stellium in my chart. Likewise, my mercury and both my juno and my vesta activate her moon which is also in the same sign as my sun. To me, this general alignment fits together like a puzzle in a really interesting way. What do you all think?

Thanks in advance, I'd love to hear any ideas on pretty much any thing here. Have a great night.

[person did not give astrological interpretation so moved to Greenhorns Lounge - Moderator]

 

[winterseye]

Figured I'd just add the composite while I'm at it.

 

[astrologer50]

Figured I'd just add the composite while I'm at it.

Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

The reason you may be having trouble uploading is the size of file/pic has to be no more than 800 x800 so you may need to reduce more...

 

[wilsontc]

synastry, to winter

winter,

You asked:

Anyway, I'd appreciate any natal and/or synastry interpretations...how the overall alignments match...in my natal chart...her natal chart...To me, this general alignment fits together like a puzzle in a really interesting way. What do you all think?

I think that if you are looking at a birth chart, you are looking at how each person approaches the world. This can give an indication of what they are looking for in another person. But to see how two people will get along together, you need to look at the synastry chart. So, looking at the birth charts, you focus inward (most of your planets at the bottom of the chart) and she uses her relationships to do things for others (most of her planets at the top (outer world) right (others) part of the chart). So you can help her see inward and she can help you relate outward and developing relationships. All this COULD happen...if you get along with each other.

And for that, we look at the synastry chart. And, looking at the personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), we see that there are more challenging personal interconnections than easy interconnections. And we see that her stellium (collection of energy) is in challenging connection to your Mercury (thinking, also talking), indicating you are likely to argue with her or feel that she is always attacking your ideas. This would be a difficult way to start a relationship.

Relating,

Tim

 

[winterseye]

Re: synastry, to winter

hey thanks for the response, well I do see a mercury conjunct moon so while there may be arguing, ultimately the way she'd feel would be the way I communicate no? Also the quintiles between the moons would suggest a creative solution to that problem, I would imagine?

 

[winterseye]

Re: synastry, to winter

to expand, my whole stellium conflicts with my sun and my moon, so that exact same tension is the bulk of my make-up. so even if my mercury squares much of her stellium, if she were to win, then much of my energy would be activated, right?

edit: while I'm on that idea, I seem to get different readings for my north node and south nodes... either respectively taurus and scorpio or gemini and sag, if it is the latter, it seems that the energy dynamics would help to balance my nodal issue... any idea?

 

[smilingsteph]

Mercury is not just the only planet that can be active during an arguement. You have to look at how mars is influenced.
If it were to affect your entire stellium, then does say mercury have connecting issues with each planet in the stellium? You also have to see how much emphasis that you would like to place on a quintile, some astrologers place little on these connections.
add:
What kind of stellium do you have? three or more planets in one house is the definition. So you have the fifth the tenth and then the first house as stelliums. Which one are you referring to?
You also have a lot of squares to her personal planets, merury, saturn, uranus...which affect the mercury, communication can be big issues.
your mercury in virgo may not like that so much, neither would your sun. Mercury rules virgo, and you are a virgoan communicator (to be simplistic I say this) and air signs need to communicate- a block in this would lead to issues.
You have sun square moon, a tough combo- as do I.
You may want to focus on yourself with separate thread. Nodes are a whole different topic- and not the easiest to understand. Maybe looking at each chart individually first will help you to see who you are and how she is and then analyzing them together.

 

[winterseye]

Well my mars conjuncts her sun and uranus, sextiles her mars and jupiter, and trines her ascendant. Her mars conjunts my venus and my pluto, sextiles my mars, neptune and ascendant, and trines my moon...

and yes my mercury has a square with 5 of her planets. Granted her moon is pretty much in the same place as my mercury.

 

[winterseye]

well there are a few definitions of stelliums as I understand it. The one I prefer is the chain of conjunctions. So I have 4 planets in a chain.. uranus - mars - neptune - jupiter, with the bulk of that energy being sag, as even the jupiter is close to sag. The latter three of those planets make a T-square with my sun and my moon. Since that energy is essentially saggitarian, it makes sense to me that it resonates with her saggitarian stellium.

Likewise, it seems to me the mercury issue is not as bad as it seems or is solved even because its right on her moon.

 

[katydid]

well there are a few definitions of stelliums as I understand it. The one I prefer is the chain of conjunctions. So I have 4 planets in a chain.. uranus - mars - neptune - jupiter, with the bulk of that energy being sag, as even the jupiter is close to sag. The latter three of those planets make a T-square with my sun and my moon. Since that energy is essentially saggitarian, it makes sense to me that it resonates with her saggitarian stellium.

Likewise, it seems to me the mercury issue is not as bad as it seems or is solved even because its right on her moon.

You have a natal sun/moon square, so it is not unusual for you to have squares and oppositions prevalent in your male/female relationships. That is 'how you roll.' And it should be that way imo because that is what this incarnation is about for you, to learn to integrate that conflict between your masculine and feminine natures.

--Also, in my experience, people who decide to marry usually have more squares and oppositions together, than they have trines. I really believe that it takes a few good solid 'afflictions' to build a solid relationship. Sometimes it doesn't work out in the end, but it usually helps each individual make some changes in their lives and in their way of relating. Often, people who have only easy aspects in their synastry , slide into being 'friends.'

I like your synastry. I think you appreciate the challenge of a passionate woman who has her own ideas and opinions, and expresses them just as you do yours. And the heavy emphasis of Sag that you both have makes you both exciting, enthusiastic, and yet ready for greener pastures if bored. I think it is a positive thing because your mars is not anchored easily, and it takes someone as passionate and assertive as you are to hold your attention. Of course your 'mars/venus/pluto in libra/scorpio conjunction ' anchors the whole thing quite intensely. I feel that you are both heavily invested emotionally, and feel that if any relationship is worth trying to build, this one is.

 

[winterseye]

ah that's what I was looking for, thanks Katydid

 

[helwa]

Hi---
The synastry charts look great. Your Mars conjunct her Sun would make for a dynamic attraction, with love for lots of joint activities and possibly sports. Your Mercury conjunct her Moon makes it easy for you to communicate on an emotional level. Her emotions would be in sunc with your mentality, and communication should be failry docile and sensitive (even considering the Sagittarius influences in both your charts!).
Best,
Helwa

 

[smilingsteph]

I think that even the perfect or the worst synastry chart can be overcome when two people are willing to work on things. It is nice though to understand wherein the problems may lie so that they can be worked out.

I just dont want you to think I was approaching this synastry from a negative aspect. I was just going on the communication issue.

Edit:
I hope everything does go well for you both!
I was looking at the mars conjunct sun and I realized that when I did a few synastry charts on a few ex-beaus that this was a great connection factor.

 

[winterseye]

thanks for the responses