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<blockquote data-quote="lillyjgc" data-source="post: 57773" data-attributes="member: 4652"><p>Hi all: </p><p>A long time ago, when I was a schoolteacher, I taught a set of twins-from the age of 12 to when they left school at 18.Both were very talented and both suffered from depression.</p><p>At age 21 the female twin committed suicide. The male twin embarked on a serious rampage with drugs and alcohol, which is current...He holds a very responsible job and has a family but he *binges* in a very risk taking manner. This leads me to conclude that how we deal with neptune is an important aspect of suicide. ...How strong we are in regard to how strong neptune is!</p><p>In the case of the twins (whose charts I do not have), their ascendants would have been at most 30 minutes apart...which could place the ascendant of one at a *critical degree*...The moon would be close for them both so aspects to house cusps could be significant.</p><p>in the longer term the behaviour of the surviving twin is self-destructive...</p><p>I guess we can generalise til the cows come home....a thought is only that until mars activates an action...</p><p>When you look at transits of the twins....because their natals are so close they had the same transits the day of the suicide...only one did...the other</p><p>was at work.</p><p>it raises interesting questions...a chemical malfunction in the brain?</p><p>The *will to live* over-ridden by an astrological influence? Total loss of hope? (Neptune and Uranus maybe?) A chemically-influenced state of mind that would just *pass* unless mars got involved....?</p><p>I think *strength* of the ascendant may be a factor...and saturn placement could be an obvious indication too..</p><p>just a few thoughts...</p><p>lillyjgc</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lillyjgc, post: 57773, member: 4652"] Hi all: A long time ago, when I was a schoolteacher, I taught a set of twins-from the age of 12 to when they left school at 18.Both were very talented and both suffered from depression. At age 21 the female twin committed suicide. The male twin embarked on a serious rampage with drugs and alcohol, which is current...He holds a very responsible job and has a family but he *binges* in a very risk taking manner. This leads me to conclude that how we deal with neptune is an important aspect of suicide. ...How strong we are in regard to how strong neptune is! In the case of the twins (whose charts I do not have), their ascendants would have been at most 30 minutes apart...which could place the ascendant of one at a *critical degree*...The moon would be close for them both so aspects to house cusps could be significant. in the longer term the behaviour of the surviving twin is self-destructive... I guess we can generalise til the cows come home....a thought is only that until mars activates an action... When you look at transits of the twins....because their natals are so close they had the same transits the day of the suicide...only one did...the other was at work. it raises interesting questions...a chemical malfunction in the brain? The *will to live* over-ridden by an astrological influence? Total loss of hope? (Neptune and Uranus maybe?) A chemically-influenced state of mind that would just *pass* unless mars got involved....? I think *strength* of the ascendant may be a factor...and saturn placement could be an obvious indication too.. just a few thoughts... lillyjgc [/QUOTE]
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