Strange Symptoms

[Lone Wolf]

Hello,

Been experiencing a strange weakness and pains and my legs since about the time the Sun went into Pisces. I know being a Libra, this puts an emphasis on my sixth house. I was hoping this would vanish with the Sun moving into Aries, but no such luck. Some days I almost feel a kind numbness or paralysis, and find it difficult to walk more than a block. I Was fine before February 18th./19th. Any ideas what this could be?

*Note:
Currently I don't have extended health benefits, or I definitely would go to see doctor over this matter. I will be covered through husbands benefits that should be accessible in a couple of months.

D.O.B
Oct. 4, 1967
Edmonton, Ab
Canada

 

[JUPITERASC]

Hello,

Been experiencing a strange weakness and pains and my legs since about the time the Sun went into Pisces. I know being a Libra, this puts an emphasis on my sixth house. I was hoping this would vanish with the Sun moving into Aries, but no such luck. Some days I almost feel a kind numbness or paralysis, and find it difficult to walk more than a block. I Was fine before February 18th./19th.

Any ideas what this could be?

D.O.B
Oct. 4, 1967
Edmonton, Ab
Canada

As well as checking the astrology of the situation, it is a good idea to obtain an expert medical opinion

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[Frisiangal]

Hi L.W.
There is a natal square in your chart involving a 1st house(general constitution) Mars and Uranus. Member Greybeard associates this configuration with 'prone to accidents'.
During February, the mass of build up of energy in Pisces would have set off this square from your 3rd house (effect of local environment). Is it possible that during February your mind may been on other things and you unexpectedly tripped, fell, made a jerky movement, etc., that may have seemed nothing at the time but could have nicked a nerve. Or did a situation arise that may have 'hit a nerve'.
Mars is in Sagittarius (hot-blooded), a sign that has associations with the upper legs/hips. It can produce sciatica (pinched nerve) that will create the pain through the whole leg because all nerve endings are in the feet (Pisces).

Saturn has general rulership of the legs (the ability to stand erect on one's own??); Uranus has associations with paralysis. General weakness will often see an involvement of Neptune/Pisces/12th house.

Saturn is associated with self discipline, concentration, and general limits the physical body can endure. By coincidence, Saturn had entered your 12th house and turned retrograde on Feb. 18th last, where it made a semi-square (predisposition to physical complaint) to natal Uranus. Any untoward (emotional) stress and strain (Uranus) with which one may not feel able to accept and cope (Saturn) can affect the nervous system and find an outlet through the upper region of legs(Mars in Sag.).

As JUPITERASC has expressed, you should seek medical attention.
There is also a configuration in your chart that could reflect upon weight issues and eventual corresponding physical health conditions arising from it. A simple physical check up and blood test will not only ease your mind but also quickly show anything 'out of balance' (Libra!!) that needs attending to and putting right before it becomes a physical constitution problem. From mental calculation, secondary progressed Sun (ruler 9th house of health issues) has reached Ascendant and the 1st house.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Hi L.W.
There is a natal square in your chart involving a 1st house(general constitution) Mars and Uranus. Member Greybeard associates this configuration with 'prone to accidents'.
During February, the mass of build up of energy in Pisces would have set off this square from your 3rd house (effect of local environment). Is it possible that during February your mind may been on other things and you unexpectedly tripped, fell, made a jerky movement, etc., that may have seemed nothing at the time but could have nicked a nerve. Or did a situation arise that may have 'hit a nerve'.
Mars is in Sagittarius (hot-blooded), a sign that has associations with the upper legs/hips. It can produce sciatica (pinched nerve) that will create the pain through the whole leg because all nerve endings are in the feet (Pisces).

Saturn has general rulership of the legs (the ability to stand erect on one's own??); Uranus has associations with paralysis. General weakness will often see an involvement of Neptune/Pisces/12th house.

Saturn is associated with self discipline, concentration, and general limits the physical body can endure. By coincidence, Saturn had entered your 12th house and turned retrograde on Feb. 18th last, where it made a semi-square (predisposition to physical complaint) to natal Uranus. Any untoward (emotional) stress and strain (Uranus) with which one may not feel able to accept and cope (Saturn) can affect the nervous system and find an outlet through the upper region of legs(Mars in Sag.).

As JUPITERASC has expressed, you should seek medical attention.
There is also a configuration in your chart that could reflect upon weight issues and eventual corresponding physical health conditions arising from it. A simple physical check up and blood test will not only ease your mind but also quickly show anything 'out of balance' (Libra!!) that needs attending to and putting right before it becomes a physical constitution problem. From mental calculation, secondary progressed Sun (ruler 9th house of health issues) has reached Ascendant and the 1st house.

Hey, that's pretty good! I remember talking to a couple of people around mid February about sciatic nerve issues. Three of us were all experiencing this pain in the butt on the same day lol. Although the butt pain subsided, the rest of the pain sort of spread. It happened after a dinner outting, and I had to get out of a very big truck that night. I wasn't very elegant about it either, as I'm quite short. So this may have put undue stress on joints, and nerves. I can tell you that a really big focal point would've been my hips/upper legs for sure. In fact its where I first began to notice the weakness and numbing. Also too, I forgot Saturn went retrograde at that time. That's an amazing analysis Frisiangal! Thank you for taking the time to look at my chart. I will be sure to visit the Doctor soon to get a formal diagnosis.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Oh, and I should probably mention that you were right on the money with weight gain too. I've put on a considerable amount over the last couple of years. With Saturn transiting my Sun and Moon recently, I've not had a whole lot of energy, and have felt a bit down. so I'm looking forward to him getting out of my first house. Although I do remember in past experience I did manage to lose some weight while Saturn transited my ascendant, so perhaps I'll be lucky with that again?!

 

[JUPITERASC]

Oh, and I should probably mention that you were right on the money with weight gain too. I've put on a considerable amount over the last couple of years. With Saturn transiting my Sun and Moon recently, I've not had a whole lot of energy, and have felt a bit down. so I'm looking forward to him getting out of my first house. Although I do remember in past experience I did manage to lose some weight while Saturn transited my ascendant, so perhaps I'll be lucky with that again?!

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[Frisiangal]

I remember talking to a couple of people around mid February about sciatic nerve issues. Three of us were all experiencing this pain in the butt on the same day lol.

Do you have another interpretation for that, as we do where I come from?
Very occasionally I get a twinge and the pain in the butt. I think of a Sagittarius situation and/or person, and why 'the pain'. 1+1=2 and it usually subsides.

Incidentally, transit Jupiter retrograded on 16* Gemini (nervous system) early October last year. It would have opposed your natal Mars from the 7th house. Jupiter rules your 2nd house.
Anything happen around that time that could have contributed towards the eventual 'pain in the butt'?

 

[Lone Wolf]

Do you have another interpretation for that, as we do where I come from?
Very occasionally I get a twinge and the pain in the butt. I think of a Sagittarius situation and/or person, and why 'the pain'. 1+1=2 and it usually subsides.

Incidentally, transit Jupiter retrograded on 16* Gemini (nervous system) early October last year. It would have opposed your natal Mars from the 7th house. Jupiter rules your 2nd house.
Anything happen around that time that could have contributed towards the eventual 'pain in the butt'?

I can't think of anything specific that I might have experienced in October, except maybe a lot of back pain. I was taking pain killers for it too. By December, I was ready to call it quits with work, as a result of feeling physically weighed down so to speak. I figured with the Xmas break (2wks.) I would feel much better....and did! My back issue improved, but by the first week of February, I felt like throwing in the towel again. I ended up quitting work at that time, and actually feel so much better for it. My priority now is to get back on track with my health, and then get back to work...possibly in a completely new direction career wise? I may even take some courses too!

Thank you again Frisiangal

LW

 

[charmvirgo]

As soon as I read your first post I recognised these are very typical symptoms of a back problem. And then I read your last post which said you have been having back pain which confirms it. You must mention both the leg symptoms and the back pain to your doctor. This is typically caused by an eroded disc between the vertebrae so that the pathway of nerves from your spine to your legs is being restricted (you would need an MRI scan if your insurance covers it). Most likely it is the lower lumbar region.

I know all about it from experience, believe me. The numbness in the legs, sometimes deep, deep aching, sometimes pins and needles, sometimes your legs feel 'dead'. It helps the nerve pathways if you lean forward like to touch your toes or put your head between your knees when you are sitting, do this often throughout the day and the leg symptoms will improve. Walking is exptremely good exercise for it because the muscles that hold you upright and hold the spine in place are being strengthened.

You can either get this just from old age, or from some sort of injury, or from being ultra sporty while your bones are still forming as a child, maybe doing a lot of work lifting with the back etc. Your weight gain would definitely contribute to this.

(It helps if you post your chart when you ask questions so people don't have to look it up, see the link in JupiterAsc's post for how.)

Frisiangal, does Saturn have anything to do with the spine and "holding upright"?

 

[Lone Wolf]

As soon as I read your first post I recognised these are very typical symptoms of a back problem. And then I read your last post which said you have been having back pain which confirms it. You must mention both the leg symptoms and the back pain to your doctor. This is typically caused by an eroded disc between the vertebrae so that the pathway of nerves from your spine to your legs is being restricted (you would need an MRI scan if your insurance covers it). Most likely it is the lower lumbar region.

I know all about it from experience, believe me. The numbness in the legs, sometimes deep, deep aching, sometimes pins and needles, sometimes your legs feel 'dead'. It helps the nerve pathways if you lean forward like to touch your toes or put your head between your knees when you are sitting, do this often throughout the day and the leg symptoms will improve. Walking is exptremely good exercise for it because the muscles that hold you upright and hold the spine in place are being strengthened.

You can either get this just from old age, or from some sort of injury, or from being ultra sporty while your bones are still forming as a child, maybe doing a lot of work lifting with the back etc. Your weight gain would definitely contribute to this.

(It helps if you post your chart when you ask questions so people don't have to look it up, see the link in JupiterAsc's post for how.)

Frisiangal, does Saturn have anything to do with the spine and "holding upright"?

Hi Charm Virgo,

Yes, you're probably right. I've had back issues for most of my life, and have had Tennis elbow too, as a result of eroding discs and pinched nerves. I had to undergo physio, which produced excellent results though! I expect this will be the case again. I did notice that leaning forward does seem to alleviate the discomfort in my hip area. Especially while seated, so I'll make an attempt to do this more often.

I did book an app't to get into see my Doctor today!!! Unfortunately she's on holidays and doesn't get back until mid April though. I will post the results of that app't here, later in April.

Thanks for your input and advice!

LW

 

[Frisiangal]

As soon as I read your first post I recognised these are very typical symptoms of a back problem. And then I read your last post which said you have been having back pain which confirms it..........

Frisiangal, does Saturn have anything to do with the spine and "holding upright"?

Hi charmvirgo,
From the modern astrology and personal perspective, Saturn rules calcium, so there is a connection with it to any issue involving the bones and human skeleton. This corresponds to Saturn's 'ability to stand erect', as you say.
The spine, i.e. the backbone (and metaphorically showing one has it!), is associated with the Leo-Aquarius axis and its rulers. Aquarius rules the vertebrae whilst each individual section of the vertebrae falls under a different rulership from Taurus (neck) to Sagittarius(tailbone). In this respect there is a natal Saturn opposite Sun and sesquiquadrate Jupiter in Leo in L.W's 9th house (relating to health issues?). We could get into all sorts of interesting further delineation if we included any influences
arising from the decanate/dwad each planet is in.

In another section of the forum, I am in a brush between the use of modern and traditional astrology techniques in health issues .
That said, if there is one sign with which I have come to attribute the importance of traditional rulership, it is Saturn of Aquarius. I try to keep to the 'NOW' in interpretation, yet Saturn's influence in Aquarius type physical difficulties seems to be showing itself more and more. I won't go as far as using 'karma' and 'past lives' to describe it, rather than
conditions that make up the 'past lives in this life', as per baby, child, adolescent, adult, senior citizen. Saturn is the archivist of all that has gone before. To my way of thinking, it isn't too illogical to think that any Saturn manifestation (event) that is archived and suppressed (through Capricorn) could be so stored in a 'cognitive memory bank'(Aquarius-Air) that it can reappear positively or negatively to influence a time in the future. The 'aha' moment is always attributed to Uranus, but is it? Maybe it is Uranus that simply allows the re-arrangement of the Saturn of Aquarius mental structure to occur.

Taking L.W.'s chart again, any 9th house health issue eased with pill or potion (rather than 6th house physical disorder/disease) could come from its ruler, Sun, not showing its backbone in situations involving Saturn. As mentioned in an earlier post, transit Saturn in 12 is now semi-square Uranus. There would appear to be an old versus changed situation to be dealt with. Sec. progr. Sun crossing the Ascendant could see it occuring, which can improve health at the same time.

It will be interesting to read at a later date what is the cause behind the Saturn pain in the legs....and not only medically speaking.

 

[charmvirgo]

hi frisiangal

You don't have to convince me about the rulership of Saturn in Aquarius (and Capricorn).

For each planet ruling two signs, one side/sign of the planet is active and effects are seen outwardly and obviously, the other side/sign is the shadow passive side where effects are hidden or not so obvious.

The vertical centre of the wheel is the spine with all the chakras/planets aligned along it. Above and below the wheel are the external chakras the Sun or crown chakra above the head and the Earth as the base chakra below the feet. Inside the wheel are the internal chakras and related planets, and the left and right of the chart are mirror images of each other with alternating active and passive signs. Where there is a passive sign the energy goes down and where there is an active sign the energy goes up and this is all related to whether the chakra spin clockwise or anticlockwise, as in the attached diagram. (Note that active and passive does not mean male or female because you can have active and passive female in the Moon with two signs, or Venus with two signs, and active and passive male in Mars with two signs, or Saturn with two signs. Even neutral planets like Mercury or Jupiter have an active an a passive side with two signs.)

I am no medical astrologer but I am sure this is all connected to health. And I can see that where each planet connects to the spine it will have an affect on that area ruled by the planet.

 

[Frisiangal]

I am no medical astrologer but I am sure this is all connected to health

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Hi again charmvirgo,
Thank you for your detailed information regarding other perspectives pertaining to health.

U.S. astrologer Ingrid Naiman (my inspiration towards medical astrology)
gave a couple of weekend seminars at the astro. med. school I attended, one of which covered the association of the chacras with their corresponding planet. It included forward/backward motion of the chacras and potential dangers involved. It was part of her seminar on what, astrologically, she called 'Astroendicrinology', as each chacra is connected to a particular lymph gland. It was a fascinating subject. I still have the transcript from tape I typed. I never went deeper into chacra experience itself, concentrating on the astrological rulership of the glands in reference to indications of physical health. During a personal conversation at the time, she told me that I was still living through my root chacra.
I hope I may have improved enough to have moved up a chacra in the +20 years since.

I think there is so much that can be learned from the body that is connected to one's health, other than purely medically physical of origin. There is a thread somewhere on this board that relates to the connection between palmistry-astrology-health. An acquaintance was an iriscopist, another is a chiropodist/foot reflexologist. It's amazing how much information regarding physical/emotional health each is able to obtain from just looking and feeling. In that respect I still have a l-o-t te learn.

All the best to you.