So scared!!! Help!!

starchaser

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Hello everyone!I'm in a very bad situation & i sincerely need your help!So i recently learned that my mother is dying of cancer soon.Of course it is trully hard for all people to lose their mother but for me it's extremely hard because except for the huge love i have for her i'm also completely depended on her.The reason is i'm paralyzed since i was a baby & she was the Angel who always took care of me!Both my parents grew me up in a great way & taught me to give my best to become a useful person & now i'm a medical student close to graduate but i dunno how to survive without her.I'm afraid i will never be happy again & i will suffer too much from now on.It was a moment of my life when ,after too much suffering the latest years because of many health problems of me & my parents,i was hoping to become happy even to love & be loved by someone special like all normal people in my age but instead this happened! I really adore her!
I know that Pluto[ruler of 5th] will soon conjunct my DC & trine my NN,Saturn [ruler of 7th] entering my busy 5th house & Jupiter will conjunct my NN for the second time in a year.The first time it was a very magical period of my life in August when i was a student in a clinic where all people were extremely kind to me & i also met somebody there that felt like i knew & loved forever.We are kind of friends with him now.Anyway i'm afraid that the coming transits the next months will be too dangerous for me & i will find no happiness from now on!What do you guys think?I'm really scared!!I need the truth cause only through the truth i know what to expect so to do something to help myself survive.
 

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Choe

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Dear starchaser,

I can't be sure,but astrologically seeing, I think your mom stands a proper chance to be cured .

What are the chances in reality,do you know?
 
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starchaser

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Her lungs are full of metastasis..only a miracle can save her i guess.The above is my own natal chart,not hers.
 
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starchaser

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Yes i dunno her time of birth though.She used to say she has Asc in Gemini.
 

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Choe

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tr.Pluto is crossing her 8th house -sort of bad

but the ruler of her 6th Venus trines transiting Saturn,which gives me some hope,and I really hope there is one,because I don't see many bad aspects.

Anyway, what is your specific question about?
 

starchaser

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Really???Wow!Well i'm afraid to hope she'll be ok though this is absolutely what i would be happy with!Docs say only a miracle can save her.My question is about the coming transits in my chart..will they be too dangerous for me?Will i manage to face them & all this situation?I'm afraid without her.Pluto[ruler of 5th] will soon conjunct my DC & trine my NN,Saturn [ruler of 7th] entering my busy 5th house & Jupiter will conjunct my NN for the second time in a year.
 
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starchaser

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For example this is my chart with transits coming in March.Are they dangerous?
 

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waybread

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starchaser, I am so sorry that you and your family are going through this difficult time.

I don't think that death-clock prediction is a good use of astrology. You can imagine how wide-open to abuse this sort of astrology could become. Moreover, different astrologers swear by different predictive techniques-- yet they are different and give different outcomes. Frankly if death prediction worked-- let alone at a simplistic level-- the life insurance industry and your own field of medicine would be deeply involved in astrological prediction by now! As you are a medical student, moreover, you know that vulnerable, desperate patients will sometimes turn to quacks who take their money but cannot help them.

Rather than thinking of death as the end of life from an astrological perspective, I believe that it makes more sense to think of it as birth into another dimension.

Depending upon the branch of medicine you specialize in, you may need to encounter death on a regular basis, so it is important for you know how to come to terms with it, so that you can best advise your patients.

In some ways you are fortunate to have such a close and loving relationship with your mother. If you can be with her, or in communication with her now, you can make her passage easier for both of you.

After she passes, you can declare that you will devote your life to something that is important to your mother, or choose to live your own life in a way that embodies what is best about her life. Live your life as a commitment to what you admire most about your mother.

Happiness is something that you choose and create from within. It is not something that happens to you from the outside.

You are stronger than you know.
 
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dr. farr

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Although I follow a radicalist method relative to transits, from the chart with transits your provided (your chart) I cannot "see" anything even remotely "dangerous" or otherwise ominous for you in the forthcoming months; Saturn transiting your 4th whole sign house (representing home matters) might show this developing situation regarding your mother (4th can be parents, home, as well as father); we have already discussed (by PM) the SN/12th house situation, so, looking at the other transits (even from a more conventional transit methodology) I for one see nothing ominous for you through the March/April 2012 transit period.
(Note: i regard connections with the NN to almost always indicate + developments; Pluto conjunct the descendant can indicate a bringing to the surface of deep things, a "healing crisis" (this was Charles Carter's basic understanding of Plutonic influences), and the trine to the NN would impart a benefic-rather than malefic-cast to this development)
 
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starchaser

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Thank you all!The last days she says weird things that give me the impression she's leaving ..she said she feels changes in her existence like she's changing level ,like expanding & opening ..she asked me how this is called in medicine i said i didn't know probably it doesn't exist as a term & she said "huh..shame on you ..DOCTOR..!" it was a really funny & special moment & she wasn't afraid at all!
Anyway the weird is her NN is in the same degree as mine so the same transits will bring her death [& transformation..]

Saturn will leave my 4th house & enter 5th in some time ,does that mean no more joy in my life?

@ waybread thank you so much!

Also @dr.farr i would absolutely like to hear your opinion using your very own special way which is always interesting and wise!
 
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basically I agree with waybread, I am convinced there is no 'death signature' although some advanced astrologers think they can find this, but really it's not appropriate....

having said all that T Saturn will around 27-28 Dec be conj mars/pluto midpoint and watch what transpires around then..... best of luck to you. Love and light X

just another thought the house of endsings IC virgo/mercury look for any transit hitting mercury, and/or 8th house Aquarius/uranus

another time i would watch carefully is T Saturn conj pluto. Beginning april 2012 T Node will be conj natal mercury

death pointers
http://aliceportman.com/?p=1382
 
you could also research Hades

Hades
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Relationships/Hades-Persephone
http://www.arlenekramer.net/uranian_eightplanets.asp

“Hades allows you (your essential self) the right to be, you must allow it the right to be – on its own terms. It can bring great compassion, patience and healing, deepening.” http://www.rubymala.com/content/astrology/hades.htm

Pluto, God of the Underworld, is the ruler of Scorpio. (In Greek mythology, the corresponding god was Hades). In Astrology, the energies of Pluto are transforming. Pluto represents subconscious forces, ruling all that is "below the surface".
FROM: http://cafeastrology.com/pluto.html

Hades
“This is one of the Uranian planets and is considered the planet of disintegration. Hades will turn those festering mass of bad feelings and experiences into a disease--a chronic one--to get your attention so that you will handle matters in a more straight-forward fashion. And if you don't, you will die of a chronic disease, instead. The flip side of Hades is therapy and shamanic healing or ceremonial healing of some sort from antiquity--which can help save your life and get you back on track with yourself.”
http://death.findyourfate.com/death-planets.htm
 
Thank you all!The last days she says weird things that give me the impression she's leaving ..she said she feels changes in her existence like she's changing level ,like expanding & opening ..she asked me how this is called in medicine i said i didn't know probably it doesn't exist as a term & she said "huh..shame on you ..DOCTOR..!" it was a really funny & special moment & she wasn't afraid at all!
Anyway the weird is her NN is in the same degree as mine so the same transits will bring her death [& transformation..]

Saturn will leave my 4th house & enter 5th in some time ,does that mean no more joy in my life? [Saturn 4th suggests taking on more responsbility for family members and home roots. Saturn 5th suggests less recreational things]

@ waybread thank you so much!

Also @dr.farr i would absolutely like to hear your opinion using your very own special way which is always interesting and wise!

In Equal house t Saturn left your 4th when it reached 13' libra. Let's not forget T Saturn (like all transits) act as background influences until they make an aspect with another planet or Angle ie: Asc/MC

T jupiter will conj your North node next year, which could involved career changes (node in 10th Equal) and/or more friends or group activities or travel even...
 

starchaser

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T jupiter will conj your North node next year, which could involved career changes (node in 10th Equal) and/or more friends or group activities or travel even...

Jupiter transited NN last August for the first time ,before it turns retrograde ,and it was a VERY special ,magical period of my life when i met many great people and a man i felt i knew & loved forever.But i can't really imagine what will the 2nd passing bring trined by Pluto at the same time.
 
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People die on a transit.Many think that their 'death' was arriving shortly in the form of a heavy transit from Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto.No one can die on transit. It has to be backed up in the progressions, firstly. And there may be 'other' indicator present, such as an eclipse, plus a transit. These two or three pieces to the recipe for Death must be in place before something serious and major happens. Nothing major happens on a transit. Everything major occurs with progressions.
http://death.findyourfate.com/death-myths.htm

I think for something major to happen, there must be 'other' indications, like solar arcs, secondary progressions etc...

do you want to post your mothers chart? with progressions, solar arcs and transits?
 

starchaser

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I think for something major to happen, there must be 'other' indications, like solar arcs, secondary progressions etc...

do you want to post your mothers chart? with progressions, solar arcs and transits?

You know it doesn't really matter if she leaves in 3 or 10 days..probably she's leaving soon i guess ,my question was about my future without her..will i make it?Is there anything good to expect?
 
You know it doesn't really matter if she leaves in 3 or 10 days..probably she's leaving soon i guess ,my question was about my future without her..will i make it?Is there anything good to expect?

apologies I must have misinterpreted your first post...

Back end of next year you will be having your saturn return, which for you will could be painful with all those planets in scorpio

What happened when T Uranus was conj MC at 25' pisces?
 

waybread

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It is vitally important that we not suggest that looking at transits or progressions of mythical planets or Pluto is going to provide answers. Modern astrologers have extensively tried to find "death signatures" and they simply do not exist. This is not the time to suggest that a heart-broken person about to lose her loved one get into such a dubious pursuit.

starchaser, thank you so much for sharing. Sometimes people who are near death prepare themselves to make the transition, and do not fear it. I hope you will be able to be close to your mother during this important time. She would probably want you to be strong for her sake.
 
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