Wasn't the word 'collective' once in fashion for the 'transpersonal' planets?
Was it? I'm not sure. That sounds like something that would have fallen out of vogue with communism, though.
I don't use 'outer' or 'transpersonal' or 'public' planets for certain things. In a way, they're like your hometown or the school you went to. Is that important to a person? Sure. Do they have an affect on people? Of course. But when you consider them major parts of the individual, overriding everything else, well, I don't consider that to be true most of the time, and if one does consider it true, that's probably not a good thing. So yes, when determining dominant planets or final dispositors and things like that, I don't count them. I do count them for transits and progressions and other techniques. I have a problem with overidentifying people with the forces that may have just been kicking them around all their lives.