My guess is that when you were studying under Carl Payne Tobey (really???) you found the calculation of Placidus house cusps too complicated for your head and chose the simple and simplisitic whole sign houses instead.
I don't have any problem with use of whole sign or equal houses, but it strikes me as arrogant for a proponent of those systems to claim "they are better." Substantiate your claim. Why are they better and how do you prove it? They aren't and you can't.
That would be my guess too....in today's world;
but we are speaking of Carl Payne Tobey's times....
I find your inference inappropriate and agree with Moog who saysMy guess is that when you were studying under Carl Payne Tobey (really???) you found the calculation of Placidus house cusps too complicated for your head and chose the simple and simplisitic whole sign houses instead.
in any event greybeard, nbennett uses Equal House - not whole signs,,,,even though we have computers calculating the charts now, many people are still interested in non quadrant house systems.
In a modern context, it makes no sense to imply that people who use whole sign houses are just thick or lazy.
Furthermore greybeard, notice that nbennett also saidI'm a firm user of Equal House
Robert Hand is currently very much in evidence lecturing as well as working as an astrologer.Yes I have studied with Robert Hand
fwiw IMO, To have learned astrology from two such erudite teachers as Carl Payne Tobey and Robert Hand is great good fortune!...but my first teacher was Carl Payne Tobey
There are real math measurement reasons for this that are complicated. In simple form, the Asc/Dsc is measured on the ecliptic. The MC/IC is measured on the equator.
I'm a firm user of Equal House, it is a refinement of Whole Sign. Yes I have studied with Robert Hand but my first teacher was Carl Payne Tobey. With Equal, all cusps are the same degree as the ASC. If you are married to the MC/IC your software can put it in just like a planet.
There are real math measurement reasons for this that are complicated. In simple form, the Asc/Dsc is measured on the ecliptic. The MC/IC is measured on the equator. These two planes are 23deg26min apart. That is why there are so many house systems, trying to rectify this difference. Only equal and Whole Sign measure all houses on the ecliptic. All other house systems fail above the Arctic Circle.
If you are a beginner, stay with either Whole Sign or Equal. It will serve you better.
There is no evidence that Ptolemy was an astrologer. The evidence is that Ptolemy was a mathematician and astronomer with theories on astrology with which he 're-worked' 'gave ancient astrology a make-over'. Ptolemy did not 'use Equal House' because Ptolemy was not a working astrologer. That's the crucial difference between Ptolemy and Vettius ValensHi, I remember doing some research on Equal a few years back. Am I right in saying, there is some evidence that Ptolemy may have used Equal house? I remember a counter argument that it was simply a misinterpretation that he did, I'd like figure that out
Whole Signs INCLUDES Equal House, because the ascending degree of Whole Signs repeats as a 'sensitive degree' WITHIN EACH WHOLE SIGN HOUSEI live reasonably north and frequently see skewed house systems. I know a lot of astrologers in the UK that use Equal house.
An interesting connection between Equal house and Whole Signs I find is that Whole Signs doesn't ignore cusps exactly; the ascending degree becomes the most important point in each house thereafter - only in Equal house, that point becomes the next 'house'. Either way, both systems agree that the ascending degree becomes very important in each house.