Kaiousei no Senshi
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VenusinAries said:Kai I thought you spoke on another thread about reading or finding Jeffery Greens book on Pluto. I have all his books and if you want to disagree with 8th house ruling sex and Pluto not having anything to do with it. I would be curious as to you having a discussion with Mr Green, whom I am friends with. Because you would be basically telling him all his years and hard work is wrong. He is a very intelligent man that has many years experience and no offense I am more likely to follow this logical pattern on thought and research on it then you.
They aren't my logical patterns. They are the ideas and basic philosophies of astrology itself, discovered and written by the very people who gave us astrology.
Shining Ray said:The Sun naturally fits the 5th house, self expression, the inner child as well as physical children.
See, I've been told this several times and I don't see it. Sol and Leo are too barren to have any sort of connection with children or creativity, as it simply "burns them up" and makes them unproductive.
I was recently reading that puberty coincides around the time Saturn opposes it's natal position at around age 14 yrs. This could be why it triggers off our insecurities about ourselves as well. This probably needs to be considered.
That's brilliant!!
Astrology has had to change because people have changed, and new planets have been discovered. Times where very different, in the modern world things have changed dramatically. Psychology has improved astrology it has helped people look within rather than blaming everything on circumstances outside of themselves. Choice has now entered the picture. Astrology psychology studies the world today, traditional astrology stopped at Saturn this is why it become limiting in interpretation. Uranus/Neptune and Pluto have been excluded when we all feel these planets exert there influence whether natally or through transit. 1800 years ago is completely different to today 2008. Who knows astrology might change in the future to reflect new times and growth.
Hopefully there are no more changes in astrology. Certainly new elements have been added, and I see no wrong in that. To be honest, I think it's wrong to completely exclude the Outers, but I also think it's wrong to say "Oh, look, three new planets...well...let's mess up the system to make them fit in a system they were never meant to fit in." This is why we're having this debate about houses ruling what. We couldn't leave the houses as they were and treat the Outers like separate entities, oh no, that'd be too easy.
You see how we have moved on then why don't you move with astrology.
Because astrology isn't a part of this world...it's separate, yet connected. Just because the world changes doesn't mean the planets have to change. They've meant what they've always meant.
How have the signs been merged they just naturally connect. If you want to see how someone thinks we look at Mercury and the ruling house 3rd. If we want to look at relationships we can look at the 7th and Venus and even this can be limiting as we can look at our own inner male/female figures. Sun/Mars Moon/Venus. Astrology is not messed up we are just using different systems to interpret it.
Just wait until I get all of the parts of my article posted, you'll see how strange it's become.
The snake has just naturally been associated with the image of transformation due to it's shedding it's skin. The butterfly is the same.
Interesting thoughts. But neither creature is classically associated with this deity.
Wait to have sex once a relationship is formed, the 5th house is romance and gifts and the going out stage, having sex at this stage is sometimes too quick.
See, this is strange. I think we should perhaps next debate differences between the Seventh and Fifth houses...this seems to be the biggest problem we're having...
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