# SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS

#### Blaze

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Phew, almost forgot, thanks JA.

#### HonourAndDevotion

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Virgo Moon is predominator
first trigon lord = Venus = first eight years.
second trigon lord = Moon = until 33.
third trigon lord = Mars = after 33?

+ leo sun 19 years
+ mercury 20 years ?

#### JUPITERASC

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Virgo Moon is predominator
first trigon lord = Venus = first eight years.
second trigon lord = Moon = until 33.
third trigon lord = Mars = after 33?

+ leo sun 19 years
+ mercury 20 years ?
The Minor Years of the Planets
are consistently given in many different texts.
One source is
at the end of Book III
of the Anthology by Valens

Below are the Minor Years of each planet

• Saturn – 30
• Jupiter – 12
• Mars – 15
• Sun – 19
• Venus – 8
• Mercury – 20
• Moon – 25
In various sections of the Anthology
especially Book VII
Valens uses the years of the planets for prediction.
He combines the minor years of planets that are in configurations.

Valens also
combines minor years of planets with those of their ruler.

The basic idea is that
a planet’s effects are likely to manifest
or ripen
near to the number of years of the planet.
Multiples of the years are also used.
For instance, Venus ripens every 8 years
so at age 16, 24, 32, and 40 she may also come into focus.

Note that the native’s 16th year is actually when he/she is 15
so the indication can also be
for the year leading up to that age.

Combining Years

Combinations include summing the Minor Years of two planets.
We can sum the Minor Years of a planet and its ruler
for activation of the planet in the sign.

For instance, age 27 may be an activation of
the Sun in Taurus - Sun 19 plus Venus 8.

Additionally, to time out the ripening of configurations
we combine the years of the planets involved.
For instance, age 27 may see the activation of
a Jupiter - 12 - square Mars - 15 - configuration in the chart.

article at https://sevenstarsastrology.com/ast...lanetary-years-1-mino-years-division-of-days/

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#### JUPITERASC

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- SATURN has rulership over rocks, stones, metals and minerals

Professions and types of people signified by SATURN
include miners and those that work with metals or minerals from the earth
or those that dig into the earth aka farm workers, gardeners, grave diggers,
- people who dig trenches or work in quarries
or work beneath its surface in tunnels and caves.
SATURN signifies plumbers, people who work with lead
brick makers, general labourers
industries where the main product is based on leather or hide
or those that necessitate working in cold, dark, or unpleasant conditions.
This includes night workers generally
and people who work with the dead in any context
whether they support the bereaved
or create products used in the funeral trade.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html

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#### JUPITERASC

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Benjamin Dykes translation of Abu Mashars GREAT INTRODUCTION
http://theastrologypodcast.com/2019/...enjamin-dykes/

SATURN wishes good to no one
And he signifies old men and weighty men
and burdens and fear, griefs and sorrow
and the complication of the mind.

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#### JUPITERASC

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next planet equally important in overall rulership of a nativity
besides Oikodespotes
aka domicile master of the chart

is
KURIOS aka Lord of the nativity.

Kurios is the executor of the agenda
that Oikodespotes aka domicile master holds.

Determination of whether

SATURN SOLE DOMICILA RULER OF AQUARIUS may be Kurios
is determined from the following candidates

1. Ascendant sign.

Establish whether any planet(s) are in the Ascendant sign
AND bounds of the ascending degree.

2. Domicile Lord of Ascendant.

3. Moon and its Domicile Lord

4. Tenth sign from ascendant and its Domicile Lord

5. Lot of Fortune and its Domicile Lord.

6. Any planets that make phasis in the chart.

include planets that make a first or second station seven days

before
or
after

nativity.

7. The bound lord of the pre-natal lunation.

Kurios aka The Lord of the nativity
is determined using the above hierarchy
AND
is also fit to conduct its business

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#### JUPITERASC

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I like to bring this picture out now and again
because

it perfectly illustrates
the symmetry in the traditional planetary rulerships.

Notice in the picture, the planets are in descending order
and the signs follow one after the other.

The co-rulerships are symmetrical.

^ If you take some time to really think about that, it's pretty amazing.

- In general, I have found in personal cases that

people tend to embody their traditional ruling planet
As for Saturn ruling Aquarius, consider these points:

- Aquarius is cold and aloof
- Aquarius is about the community

(community is structured, bound by traditions and regulations)
- Aquarius is opposite Leo, the ego, ruled by the Sun.

Saturn is furthest away from the Sun.
Opposite to ego
(communal again)
- Just like Capricorn expands materially
using Saturn's laws of boundaries and structures
Aquarius does so to but more so with ideas and concepts.
These signs are not stagnating in Saturn
they understand and make use of it
and there is growth happening in their sphere of influence.

- Saturn is exalted in Libra.
Thinking about that for awhile
helps you
to break loose from
the typical doom and gloom associated
with Saturn
and
understand it's rulership over Aquarius.

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#### JUPITERASC

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PLANETS DIGNIFIED IN AQUARIUS

SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
is dignified
not only
by sign
but also
is dignified in diurnal charts
ss daytime triplicity ruler Aquarius

MERCURY is dignified in nocturnal charts as night-time triplicity ruler.

Planets Debilitated in Aquarius = Sun by DETRIMENT

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#### JUPITERASC

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Jupiter and SATURN were called by astrologers of old
the "Great Chronocrators".
For millennia
the alignment of these two planets
has been regarded
as a significator of great social
economic
and
political watersheds - historic turning points, if you will.
hence
referred to as
"The Great Conjunction"
clearly then
Juiter Saturn conjunctions have been charted for millenia
by MUNDANE ASTROLOGERS

Jupiter's alignment with SATURN
occurs at intervals of just under 20 years
The aspect is occasionally repeated due to a retrograde
of one or both planets.
Each successive conjunction
not counting retrograde repeats
occurs at a mean advance of
approximately 243 degrees relative to its predecessor
although from one alignment to the next
this arc can vary considerably.

Every third conjunction
i.e.
once every 60 years
brings the alignment back
to its starting place, plus around 9 degrees:
this 60 year cycle is termed
FIRST ORDER RECURRENCE of the conjunction.

Every 40th conjunction - roughly once every 800 years -
brings the alignment back to within about 1 degree of its starting place:
this approximate 800 year cycle is termed SECOND ORDER RECURRENCE
aka GREAT MUTATION CYCLE

Jupiter and SATURN may both be regarded as generational planets
Jupiter takes 12 years to orbit Sun
and
Saturn takes 30 years to orbit Sun
- additionally, during their respective orbits of the Sun
Jupiter and Saturn are in conjunction only approximately every 20 years.

These specific spans of time

chime well with the accepted idea of “a generation”
being the span of time necessary before human beings are physically able
to produce a child of their own
in human terms, 'a generation' can be a variable
- that's because some produce offspring very early
and in many 'eastern' countries before their teens.

However, in 'the west' there is a tendency to initially focus on 'career'
before then producing offspring later in the 30's.
The middle ground would be those producing offspring in their 20's.
Based on those rather "rough and ready" spans of time then:

(1) A twelve year Jupiter orbit of the sun represents

those who are parents at an age considered in 'the west'
very young - i.e. 12

(2) A thirty year Saturn orbit of the sun represents

those who are parents at what is considered in 'the west'
to be a 'more responsible age' - i.e. 30

(3) A combination of the two planets in regular 20 year Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions

then represent the 'middle-ground' - i.e. 19/20

USUALLY a generation
averages about 25 years from the birth of a parent to the birth of a child
- although it varies case by case
it is generally accepted that the length of a generation
was closer to 20 years in earlier times
when humans mated younger
and life expectancies were shorter

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#### JUPITERASC

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Saturn rules Aquarius because in ancient times

Saturn was the boundary between the real world
and the world of spirits.
Saturn was the only planet with rings
and these rings gave Saturn a portal to the higher realms.
For this reason Saturn ruled all forms of magic
and ruled the transition from mortal to immortal life.

The ring system was described as "the ring pass, not pass "
dividing line between the spirit world and the real world.
As such the attributes we give Aquarius
were in the domain of Saturn.

Saturn is the adept, those who know how to manipulate the
highest planes of existence.
rahu
As I said, Saturn was historically
the boundary between the mundane world
and the world of spirits.

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#### Blaze

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Hippies had to do a lot of drugs to think Saturn's age would be great.

Here's a random question: Saturn trine ascendant in a day chart. Yay or nay? Dun dun dunn.

#### JUPITERASC

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Hippies had to do a lot of drugs to think Saturn's age would be great.
Here's a random question:

Saturn trine ascendant in a day chart.
Yay or nay? Dun dun dunn.
Above or below the horizon?

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#### Blaze

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Above or below the horizon?

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Below, 5th house.

Pisces Saturn always confuses me.

#### JUPITERASC

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Below, 5th house.

Pisces Saturn always confuses me
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WHOLE SIGN or any Quadrant system?

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#### Oddity

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Trining Cancer would be bad. Scorpio would be okay.

One might argue that Saturn in Pisces is generally tolerable, because Venus rules Saturn's exaltation. Might.

But it's not the worst place.

Below, 5th house.

Pisces Saturn always confuses me.

#### Blaze

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WHOLE SIGN or any Quadrant system?

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Whole Signs, Mon Ami.

Trining Cancer would be bad. Scorpio would be okay.

One might argue that Saturn in Pisces is generally tolerable, because Venus rules Saturn's exaltation. Might.

But it's not the worst place.

You guessed it - Trine Scorpio ascendant, though ascendant is conjunct domicile Mars. A strange tag-team to go along with a Libra Sun/Merc/Venus sitting in the 12th.

#### JUPITERASC

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Trining Cancer would be bad. Scorpio would be okay.
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Trine Cancer gotta trine Scorpio

and vice versa

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#### JUPITERASC

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One might argue that Saturn in Pisces is generally tolerable
because Venus rules Saturn's exaltation.

Might.
anything is possible
albeit however unlikely

But it's not the worst place.
it's all relative to the totality of the chart

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#### JUPITERASC

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Whole Signs, Mon Ami.
You guessed it - Trine Scorpio ascendant, though
ascendant is conjunct domicile Mars.

A strange tag-team to go along

with a Libra Sun/Merc/Venus sitting in the 12th.
Ruler of 10th in 12th
is Mercury rising before or after the sun?

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