SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS

JUPITERASC

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SATURN and OIL

"...OIL is pitch black - comes from the earth from fossils of dead things
OIL is created under great pressure - has to be mined from the earth
& humanity's use of it is a leading contributor to environmental catastrophes worldwide
Jupiter may show up in astrology related to oil

particularly Jupiter in Saturn's signs Libra, Capricorn, Aquarius..." :)
WADE CAVES


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LostNOzarks

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Saturn in Capricorn seems to grieve death differntly than Saturn in Aquarius. Lots of judgements about how somebody is supposed to die proper or in a circus of circumustances. 4th house of Saturn 10th is 1st. Dignity. 12th house of Saturn 10th is Go Big.
 

JUPITERASC

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by the way


the Moon WHEN VISIBLE
is visible solely because

Moon REFLECTS the LIGHT of the SUN

likewise

SATURN sole DOMICILE ruler of Aquarius

is visible also
by REFLECTING the LIGHT of the SUN :smile:





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CapAquaPis

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In its ruler sign conjunct the other naked eye planets and so close...how much astrological powers would it unleash on the earth?


Astronomically is in Capricorn, the other ruler sign of Saturn, the only planet to rule back-to-back signs/constellations of the zodiac.
 

david starling

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In its ruler sign conjunct the other naked eye planets and so close...how much astrological powers would it unleash on the earth?


Astronomically is in Capricorn, the other ruler sign of Saturn, the only planet to rule back-to-back signs/constellations of the zodiac.

Saturn Rules.
 

CapAquaPis

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Only 2004 in my life had no Saturn's closest approaches to earth (1980-2003 and 2005-2022), I had a more positive year when I moved out of my Mom's in Aug 2004 (I was 24 and a half years old then), every 29? years which is the planet's orbit around the sun anyway (1975 and the next year may be 2033).
 

JUPITERASC

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Saturn in own DOMICILE aka house AQUARIUS
is essentially dignified and powerful
shows an individual who gets along with authority
and respects rank and privilege and is responsible

cool headed, scientifically minded
and
usually has a talent for mathematics and computer science.
Frequently, this individual
will move up in the corporate ladder

to very distinguished heights.
They have respect for the law.

Sometimes this individual runs into crises
that force he/she to learn
that the spirit of the law is more important
than the letter of the law.
Generally this person will tend to lean to the political right.


IN A NOCTURNAL CHART Saturn is still essentially dignified
but the natives social status is likely to be less powerful.
The coldness of night elementally

concentrates that which is alike and unlike together.
This creates lack of clarity in social circumstances
or a feeling of being cramped socially.
If feeling trapped in unfavorable social circumstances for too long :smile:
the native may develop misanthropic tendencies.
source Curtis Manwaring DELPHIC ORACLE


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JUPITERASC

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SATURN SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS
is aka The IMAGE OF THE WATER-POURER :smile:


The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human, servile, eloquent, semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind. It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property. Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aquarius are burdened, envious, lying, occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer, craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes, smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials, troubled by athletic training, artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families, incorrigible, making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth, accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.

Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system, the lymphatic system and the immune system. It causes blindness on account of the water. It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces and like-engirding with Capricorn, short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere. It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south. Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south. Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia. The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th, the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th, and the falling water up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth

Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn
and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn
and moderately Jupiter


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.


Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae: accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri. Retrieved from
https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages. Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from
https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


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JUPITERASC

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SATURN

Physical descriptions offered:

Generally the body is cold and dry, of a middle stature
the complexion pale, swartish or muddy
his eyes small and dark, looking downward
a broad forehead, black or sad hair, and it hard or rugged
great ears, hanging
lowering eye-brows, thick lips and nose, a rare or thin beard
a lumpish, unpleasant countenance
either holding his head forward or stooping
his shoulders broad and large, and many times crooked
his belly somewhat short and lank
his thighs spare, lean and not long
his knees and feet indecent, many times shovelling
or hitting one against another.


You must observe, if Saturn is oriental of the Sun
the stature is more short, but decent and well composed
if occidental, the man is more black and lean, and fewer hairs
if Saturn lacks latitude, the body is leaner
if he have great latitude, the body is more fat or fleshy
if the latitude be meridional or south, more fleshy
but quick in motion.
If the latitude be north, hairy and much flesh.
Saturn in his first station, a little fat.
In his second station, fat, ill favoured bodies, and weak
and this applies to all the other planets.


Manners when well dignified: :smile:

Profound in imagination, severe in his acts, in words reserved
in speaking and giving very spare, in labour patient
in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous
in all manner of actions austere.


Manners when badly placed:

Then he is envious, covetous, jealous and mistrustful
timorous, sordid, outwardly dissembling,sluggish, suspicious, stubborn
a condemner of women, a close liar, malicious, murmuring
never contented, ever repining.


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JUPITERASC

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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity or seriousness.


If Saturn is dignified and well placed, they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.
Such a person is not to be lightly dismissed

Lilly describes Saturnine types as profound in imagination, severe in acts,

in labour patient, in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous.
Their sense of humour is dry and earthy
based on observing the reality of life :smile:
They seldom throw caution to the wind
and are always aware of a sense of responsibility to themselves and others.
They do not display their emotions easily
but their emotions, like their imaginations, can be profound.
Such individuals are observably deep, sincere
and generally gather respect.

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html


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JUPITERASC

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The following table
clearly illustrates
below the column headed HOUSE
that
SATURN IS SOLE DOMICILE RULER OF AQUARIUS :smile:
by the way

for beginners who do not know
HOUSE = DOMICILE
i.e.
House is aka Domicile




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david starling

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i dont think there is imo. i have seen a lot of couples/friendships with these aspects they generally tend to have bad relationships from what ive seen, unless the rest of the synastry is good. there tends to be a weird lack of respect?
i see a lot of couples like this but it never lasts

for example i meet a lot of caps i really like them as people but more from a distance

This is the Trad sanctuary. No advocating for outer planets as sign-rulers!

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JUPITERASC

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Why are aquarius and capricorn doesn't behold each other
even though they are both supposed to be Saturn's domicile?
Or is there any special exception for aversion aspect
when planets residing in common quality like Aquarius-Capricorn,

Gemini-Virgo, Libra-Taurus, and Scorpio-Aries?

i dont think there is imo. i have seen a lot of couples/friendships with these aspects they generally tend to have bad relationships
from what ive seen, unless the rest of the synastry is good. there tends to be a weird lack of respect?
This comment belongs on one of our other boards as it's modernistic
i see a lot of couples like this but it never lasts for example i meet a lot of caps i really like them as people but more from a distance
you misunderstood the issue
which is:
Capricorn and Aquarius are IN AVERSION and cannot behold each other:)

as illustrated :)

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JUPITERASC

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i was replying to this:
“Or is there any special exception for aversion aspect
when planets residing in common quality like Aquarius-Capricorn,
Gemini-Virgo, Libra-Taurus, and Scorpio-Aries?”

because i also have thought about this before, if the signs in aversion might get along
a Capricorn planet and an Aquarius planet are in AVERSION to each other

since they have the same ruling planet but from what ive seen they dont at all, so theres no exception i guess 😄
it's not possible for Saturn to SIMULTANEOUSLY be natally Capricorn AND Aquarius :)

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JUPITERASC

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In traditional astrology, isnt saturn the ruling planet of capricorn and aquarius both? i thought this was the case 🤔
that is the case :)
i knew that they were in aversion, but i was just wondering if there might be any positives between the two
due to the ruling planet in common but i know there arent
POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE for when AVERSION occurs
- call in a second planet, which does have connection, to aid the individual :)
such as
- the planet which rules by the second level of Essential Dignity, that is, by Exaltation.

Specifically, we're discussing AVERSION to each other of any planets in Capricorn and Aquarius

A relevant Exalted Lord for Libra is SATURN
and for Capricorn is MARS

Failing a connection to both the domicile lord and the exaltation lord of a sign
it may be possible to access sight and achieve feasible house management
through the fourth level of Essential Dignities known as The Terms or the Bounds.

The Term Lord is the final option and it may have limited effect.
Unlike Rulership and Exaltation, Term Rulers do not apply to the entire sign.
They can only be used when complicit with the given range of degrees :)
and the correct degrees are shown in the Terms Table

The Terms use only the five planets and do not include the Sun or the Moon as Term Rulers.



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JUPITERASC

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thank you JA! this was extremely insightful, i had only found out about terms and essential dignities
when i was doing horary charts but i still didnt know much about either, so this was very helpful


18:44 is where he lists the dignities, and where the discussion proper starts. Nice discussion :)
by the way, the posts you made in this thread about house systems were really helpful as well,
ive been trying to figure out which house system to use and your explanation was really good
still learning
📖
Thank you :)
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