SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS

dr. farr

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J.A., it's unnecessary on the Traditional Astrology board to say "Sole Domicile Ruler" of any Sign, Aquarius included, because in ancient astrology, there's no such thing as dual Domicile rulership. There are Sign-rulers with 2 Domicile-signs, but no Domicile-signs with 2 Domiciled-rulers. Each and every Sign has only ONE Domicile-ruler.

This is correct-same too in Vedic astrology, which was very heavily influenced by Hellenistic astrology up through the 6th century AD.
 

JUPITERASC

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J.A., it's unnecessary on the Traditional Astrology board to say "Sole Domicile Ruler" of any Sign, Aquarius included, because in ancient astrology, there's no such thing as dual Domicile rulership. There are Sign-rulers with 2 Domicile-signs, but no Domicile-signs with 2 Domiciled-rulers. Each and every Sign has only ONE Domicile-ruler.
This is correct-same too in Vedic astrology, which was very heavily influenced by Hellenistic astrology up through the 6th century AD.
"...eclectic....." non-traditional astrological opinions :smile:

Saturn IS in fact sole DOMICILE ruler of AQUARIUS





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JUPITERASC

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by the way



the Moon WHEN VISIBLE
is visible solely because

Moon REFLECTS the LIGHT of the SUN

likewise

SATURN sole DOMICILE ruler of Aquarius

is visible also
by REFLECTING the LIGHT of the SUN :smile:




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JUPITERASC

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Manilius is a 1st century author to whom I give great attention regarding several astrological matters; he adds the 4th house to the 12th as one of the 2 houses of joy for saturn, and gives Venus the 10th house instead of the 5th as its house of joy.
I myself follow the manilius house-of-joy allocations.
Yes, as an added influence to the overall condition of the given planet; sorrows of the planet occur if the planet posits the opposite house to its joy; remember that the old Hellenists used either whole sign or equal house systems in determining houses (Manilius used whole sign houses; firmicus maternus used equal house)
Does it mean the planet is actually more Benefic or at least less Malefic in the Houses in which it joys?
Also, how was that determined as to the House in which a planet joys?


Yes;


How they were determined no one knows; 1st century manilius was the first to mention them.


Thank you dr. farr for these useful historical insights :smile:
welcome back you were missed during your long abscence




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JUPITERASC

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The fact that venus and moon rule women and night
reminds me that they tend to fall for criminal types or bad boys
and cant see through them cause darkness makes judgement fuzxy

That's erroneous non traditional inference :smile:

Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part II - Seven Stars​


Venus completes 8 sidereal cycles and 5 synodic cycles with 8 years.
It has retreating arcs of 15 degrees for 40 days.
Venus is moistening and moderately heating, benefic, feminine and nocturnal. Phosphoros makes those born under her shapely, graceful, effeminate, with bright beautiful eyes, having excess of hot and moist when morning rising, and plump, luxurious, olive in complexion, having excess of moist when evening rising, and in general, admired, passionate, wealthy, gracious, outgoing and friendly. Venus controls desire, love, priesthood, public benefactors, wearing of golden crowns and ornaments, merriment, friendship, companionship, acquisition of additional property, buying maidens and ornaments, agreements on favorable terms, marriages, refined arts, pleasant sounds, music-making, sweet singing, beauty of form, painting, mixing of colours, embroidery, purple-dyeing, perfume making, inventors, the masters of crafts, working with gold and precious stones, haircutters, cleanliness, plays, the supervisors of markets, weights, measures, trades and shops, giving and receiving, laughter and rejoicing, order, aquatic animals, the livelihood of the mother, assistance from women, remarkable reputations, nourishment and pleasure, the olfactory system, the reproductive organs, the secondary sex characteristics, multi-coloured adornments, precious stones, golden colours and greasy tastes. It is chronocrator over youth up to the 22nd year.


Moon completes sidereal cycles with 27.32166 days and anomalistic cycles with 27.55454 days.
Ascending Node completes retreating sidereal cycles with 18.61295 years.
Moon is moistening and moderately heating, benefic, feminine and nocturnal. Moon makes those born under her white, with fine figure, beautiful eyes, having excess of moist. Moon controls life, light, kingship, the household, high priesthood, affluence, gathering of the masses, foresight, the body, travel, fortune, appearance, outcomes, possessions, cohabitation, housekeeping, gains and expenditures, cities, assemblies, ships, the mother and the conception, the respiratory system, the upper gastrointestinal tract, the eyesight, especially the left eye, glass and reflection, silver, white colours and salty tastes. It is chronocrator over infancy up to the 4th year.

Sun rules day, Moon rules night, Sun is not Predominator during day, nor is the Moon during night, when the Lightbringer is inoperative, while the other Light is operative.

Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf
 

JUPITERASC

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Saturn rules Aquarius, it is the sole domicile ruler in traditional astrology.
In traditional astrology, you do have other rulers of the sign -
the triplicity rulers, bound rulers and decan rulers.

Triplicity rulers of Aquarius are Saturn, Mercury and Jupiter.

Bound rulers depend upon the degree placement, you need the egyptian bounds table
to determine based on the degree.
Decan or Face rulers are based on three division of the sign.

The domicile ruler is the most important, +5 score.

Next comes the exaltation ruler, +4 score. Aquarius don't have exaltation ruler.
Next is triplicity rulers (+3).
I think the original post is concerned only with domicile ruler. So, yes Saturn is the sole domicile ruler.
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JUPITERASC

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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity or seriousness.


If Saturn is dignified and well placed, they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.
Such a person is not to be lightly dismissed

Lilly describes Saturnine types as profound in imagination, severe in acts,
in labour patient, in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous.
Their sense of humour is dry and earthy
based on observing the reality of life :smile:
They seldom throw caution to the wind
and are always aware of a sense of responsibility to themselves and others.
They do not display their emotions easily
but their emotions, like their imaginations, can be profound.
Such individuals are observably deep, sincere
and generally gather respect.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html



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socrates

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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity or seriousness.


If Saturn is dignified and well placed, they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.
Such a person is not to be lightly dismissed

Lilly describes Saturnine types as profound in imagination, severe in acts,
in labour patient, in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous.
Their sense of humour is dry and earthy
based on observing the reality of life :smile:
They seldom throw caution to the wind
and are always aware of a sense of responsibility to themselves and others.
They do not display their emotions easily
but their emotions, like their imaginations, can be profound.
Such individuals are observably deep, sincere
and generally gather respect.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html



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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary Itend to regret not thinking before speaking and am prone to gaffes
 

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JUPITERASC

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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary
I tend to regret not thinking before speaking

and am prone to gaffes
SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:







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socrates

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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:







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As i said mine is dignified and Im not at all careful when I speak
 

JUPITERASC

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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary
I tend to regret not thinking before speaking

and am prone to gaffes
SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:

As i said mine is dignified and Im not at all careful when I speak
Must be wellplaced AS WELL AS dignified :smile:



its in the 9th a good house conjunct ASC ruler and in sect
9th is not angular :smile:
9th is a CADENT house
The houses are not all equal in strength and power.

If a planet is located in an angular house, it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.


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JUPITERASC

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by angle do you mean 10th house or MC as well?


The ANGLES are the ascendant, descendant, midheaven and Imum Coeli

aka '...lower midheaven...'

These mark the cusps of the 1st, 7th, 10th and 4th houses
are also referred to as '...cardinal points...'
Planets close to angles are very prominent in their effects :smile:







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socrates

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The ANGLES are the ascendant, descendant, midheaven and Imum Coeli

aka '...lower midheaven...'

These mark the cusps of the 1st, 7th, 10th and 4th houses
are also referred to as '...cardinal points...'
Planets close to angles are very prominent in their effects :smile:







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but which angles? 10th house or the house where MC is?
 
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