SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS

JUPITERASC

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The fact that venus and moon rule women and night
reminds me that they tend to fall for criminal types or bad boys
and cant see through them cause darkness makes judgement fuzxy

That's erroneous non traditional inference :smile:

Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part II - Seven Stars​


Venus completes 8 sidereal cycles and 5 synodic cycles with 8 years.
It has retreating arcs of 15 degrees for 40 days.
Venus is moistening and moderately heating, benefic, feminine and nocturnal. Phosphoros makes those born under her shapely, graceful, effeminate, with bright beautiful eyes, having excess of hot and moist when morning rising, and plump, luxurious, olive in complexion, having excess of moist when evening rising, and in general, admired, passionate, wealthy, gracious, outgoing and friendly. Venus controls desire, love, priesthood, public benefactors, wearing of golden crowns and ornaments, merriment, friendship, companionship, acquisition of additional property, buying maidens and ornaments, agreements on favorable terms, marriages, refined arts, pleasant sounds, music-making, sweet singing, beauty of form, painting, mixing of colours, embroidery, purple-dyeing, perfume making, inventors, the masters of crafts, working with gold and precious stones, haircutters, cleanliness, plays, the supervisors of markets, weights, measures, trades and shops, giving and receiving, laughter and rejoicing, order, aquatic animals, the livelihood of the mother, assistance from women, remarkable reputations, nourishment and pleasure, the olfactory system, the reproductive organs, the secondary sex characteristics, multi-coloured adornments, precious stones, golden colours and greasy tastes. It is chronocrator over youth up to the 22nd year.


Moon completes sidereal cycles with 27.32166 days and anomalistic cycles with 27.55454 days.
Ascending Node completes retreating sidereal cycles with 18.61295 years.
Moon is moistening and moderately heating, benefic, feminine and nocturnal. Moon makes those born under her white, with fine figure, beautiful eyes, having excess of moist. Moon controls life, light, kingship, the household, high priesthood, affluence, gathering of the masses, foresight, the body, travel, fortune, appearance, outcomes, possessions, cohabitation, housekeeping, gains and expenditures, cities, assemblies, ships, the mother and the conception, the respiratory system, the upper gastrointestinal tract, the eyesight, especially the left eye, glass and reflection, silver, white colours and salty tastes. It is chronocrator over infancy up to the 4th year.

Sun rules day, Moon rules night, Sun is not Predominator during day, nor is the Moon during night, when the Lightbringer is inoperative, while the other Light is operative.

Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf
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JUPITERASC

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Saturn rules Aquarius, it is the sole domicile ruler in traditional astrology.
In traditional astrology, you do have other rulers of the sign -
the triplicity rulers, bound rulers and decan rulers.

Triplicity rulers of Aquarius are Saturn, Mercury and Jupiter.

Bound rulers depend upon the degree placement, you need the egyptian bounds table
to determine based on the degree.
Decan or Face rulers are based on three division of the sign.

The domicile ruler is the most important, +5 score.

Next comes the exaltation ruler, +4 score. Aquarius don't have exaltation ruler.
Next is triplicity rulers (+3).
I think the original post is concerned only with domicile ruler. So, yes Saturn is the sole domicile ruler.
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socrates

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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity or seriousness.


If Saturn is dignified and well placed, they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.
Such a person is not to be lightly dismissed

Lilly describes Saturnine types as profound in imagination, severe in acts,
in labour patient, in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous.
Their sense of humour is dry and earthy
based on observing the reality of life :smile:
They seldom throw caution to the wind
and are always aware of a sense of responsibility to themselves and others.
They do not display their emotions easily
but their emotions, like their imaginations, can be profound.
Such individuals are observably deep, sincere
and generally gather respect.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html



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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary Itend to regret not thinking before speaking and am prone to gaffes
 

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JUPITERASC

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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary
I tend to regret not thinking before speaking

and am prone to gaffes
SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:







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socrates

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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:







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As i said mine is dignified and Im not at all careful when I speak
 

JUPITERASC

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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary
I tend to regret not thinking before speaking

and am prone to gaffes
SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:

As i said mine is dignified and Im not at all careful when I speak
Must be wellplaced AS WELL AS dignified :smile:



its in the 9th a good house conjunct ASC ruler and in sect
9th is not angular :smile:
9th is a CADENT house
The houses are not all equal in strength and power.

If a planet is located in an angular house, it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.


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JUPITERASC

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by angle do you mean 10th house or MC as well?


The ANGLES are the ascendant, descendant, midheaven and Imum Coeli

aka '...lower midheaven...'

These mark the cusps of the 1st, 7th, 10th and 4th houses
are also referred to as '...cardinal points...'
Planets close to angles are very prominent in their effects :smile:







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socrates

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The ANGLES are the ascendant, descendant, midheaven and Imum Coeli

aka '...lower midheaven...'

These mark the cusps of the 1st, 7th, 10th and 4th houses
are also referred to as '...cardinal points...'
Planets close to angles are very prominent in their effects :smile:







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but which angles? 10th house or the house where MC is?
 

socrates

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Chris,what if the MC is in 9th house?



You mean the 9th house becomes the 10th so to speak? I hope you understand my question
Noon or MC is often in 9th sign
Ex asc cancer 10th sign aries but MC in pisces
Is aries or pisces the MC angle? Do you use quadrant or whole sign house?
 
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JUPITERASC

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You mean the 9th house becomes the 10th so to speak? I hope you understand my question
Noon or MC is often in 9th sign
Ex asc cancer 10th sign aries but MC in pisces
Is aries or pisces the MC angle? Do you use quadrant or whole sign house?




There are multiple opinions on this issue :smile:

Many use Whole Sign Houses to determine TOPICS
then use any quadrant system to assess planetary strength


THE FOLLOWING WHEEL ILLUSTRATES TOPICS


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WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
ELIMINATING AMBIGUITY OF HOUSE LOCATION of PLANET :smile:
AND THEN
any quadrant house system
such as Placidus, Alcabitius et al
assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH


tsmalls comment
explains the rationale

I use both whole signs and Placidus.
The original idea of quadrant based house systems
was to determine angularity,
and never to replace the concept of topics.
So
I count signs for topics
and use a house system overlaid onto it.
Because, as I mentioned above, capability
and angularity/ability to act
are two different things.....


tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius

some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus
there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
its a matter of personal choice which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so
Yes, the dominant house system in Greco-Roman astrology
(until about the time of the end of the Classical Period) was whole sign,
but (among the famous very early Arabic astrologers of the transitional period)
only Abu'Mashar continued the ancient Greco-Roman practice,
and the whole sign house format became virtually forgotten (in the West)
until the mid-1990's.

Personally I think it was an historical tragedy for our astrological art
that whole sign houses became lost to memory,
for my experience
over the past nearly 20 years of exclusively using whole sign houses
has convinced me
of the more consistent accuracy of this house system, over any other...
Ancient meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts :smile:
such as the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the Thema Mundi
the Joys
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socrates

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There are multiple opinions on this issue :smile:

Many use Whole Sign Houses to determine TOPICS
then use any quadrant system to assess planetary strength


THE FOLLOWING WHEEL ILLUSTRATES TOPICS


astrological-houses-02.jpg



WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
ELIMINATING AMBIGUITY OF HOUSE LOCATION of PLANET :smile:
AND THEN
any quadrant house system
such as Placidus, Alcabitius et al
assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH


tsmalls comment
explains the rationale


tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius

some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus
there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
its a matter of personal choice which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so

Ancient meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts :smile:
such as the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the Thema Mundi
the Joys
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PlanetaryJoys.jpg

Well if you look at the chart of Paul Bowles he had the Asc ruler mercury and sun in 8th sign but mercury was in 9rh by quadrant.And hes known for his travels and writing. So its a hard choice
 
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