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<blockquote data-quote="piercethevale" data-source="post: 1158589" data-attributes="member: 5785"><p>For the record. I did locate, Mr. Bovee about two years ago, and I wrote him an email introducing myself and made mention of my having a book published on astrology and complemented him on the prose and poetry I found of his online ... and he wrote back. </p><p>Then I wrote him another email I showed him a bit of what I've accomplished with the Sabian Symbols as Rudhyar presented them and He then wrote me again and claimed his eyesight had just failed him, that he needed an operation, and wouldn't be able to communicate anymore.</p><p>I never heard from Him again.</p><p>I had found some of his book online and He does, or did, write, some nice poetry and lovely prose, but I'm really no judge of poetry. or prose, I'm a terrible writer... but He really hadn't produced one thing of worth while note utilizing the Sabian Symbols in astrology. He had demonstrated nothing where He found them to be relevant to any natal chart in any manner at all.</p><p></p><p>You've got to keep in mind that the Sabians are not exclusive to the realm of astrology and in fact there not exclusive to anything at all but that of cycles.</p><p></p><p>I did learn one thing from him though... that is that we are not related.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I kept all the correspondence and shared it with fellow member Phoenix Venus at the time. If she were still around she'd probably have something to add, but she apparently doesn't want to participate here anymore. </p><p>It does get tiresome trying to get through to people that just only want to hear what they've already made their minds up to believe.</p><p></p><p>She helped me write the revised manuscript for my book, contributed a bit herself along with the new material I've added and she did all the grammatical editing, all for which she will be credited on the cover. It's in the publishers hands and once it's in print I plan on retiring from writing in forums... I've been progressively writing less and less here as it is</p><p>I an odd hunch that the upcoming new format has a good chance of somehow losing, or deleting, or in some manner making irretrievable, all the old threads here at AW, and if have to write any of it again, it'll be for publication next time.</p><p></p><p>By the way sdh3, there's a thread by ukpoohbear in the celebrity natal sub-forum on Marilyn Monroe you might find interesting. I found that she quite possibly had a complete downward pointing pentagram on her natal chart that centered on the nadir of her chart, if she was in fact born earlier than the given time of exactly 9:30 a.m., which I think is an obvious estimation rounded to the nearest half hour. If she was born between 9:22:17 and 9:26:07, like I have a hunch she was, then she definitely had a perfect pentagram with the 5th degree of Scorpio for her nadir.</p><p>When they point down, centered on the nadir... it's all about getting what you can with what you got... Madonna may have sung about being a material girl but I think Marilyn lived it. That kind of ambition coupled with sleeping with powerful politicians, and men who were powerfully "connected", along with highly clairvoyant ability would certainly seem to add up to an Epstein type suicide.</p><p></p><p>Good to see you back and writing. It's been awhile. <img src="https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/styles/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":smile:" title="Smile :smile:" data-shortname=":smile:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="piercethevale, post: 1158589, member: 5785"] For the record. I did locate, Mr. Bovee about two years ago, and I wrote him an email introducing myself and made mention of my having a book published on astrology and complemented him on the prose and poetry I found of his online ... and he wrote back. Then I wrote him another email I showed him a bit of what I've accomplished with the Sabian Symbols as Rudhyar presented them and He then wrote me again and claimed his eyesight had just failed him, that he needed an operation, and wouldn't be able to communicate anymore. I never heard from Him again. I had found some of his book online and He does, or did, write, some nice poetry and lovely prose, but I'm really no judge of poetry. or prose, I'm a terrible writer... but He really hadn't produced one thing of worth while note utilizing the Sabian Symbols in astrology. He had demonstrated nothing where He found them to be relevant to any natal chart in any manner at all. You've got to keep in mind that the Sabians are not exclusive to the realm of astrology and in fact there not exclusive to anything at all but that of cycles. I did learn one thing from him though... that is that we are not related. I kept all the correspondence and shared it with fellow member Phoenix Venus at the time. If she were still around she'd probably have something to add, but she apparently doesn't want to participate here anymore. It does get tiresome trying to get through to people that just only want to hear what they've already made their minds up to believe. She helped me write the revised manuscript for my book, contributed a bit herself along with the new material I've added and she did all the grammatical editing, all for which she will be credited on the cover. It's in the publishers hands and once it's in print I plan on retiring from writing in forums... I've been progressively writing less and less here as it is I an odd hunch that the upcoming new format has a good chance of somehow losing, or deleting, or in some manner making irretrievable, all the old threads here at AW, and if have to write any of it again, it'll be for publication next time. By the way sdh3, there's a thread by ukpoohbear in the celebrity natal sub-forum on Marilyn Monroe you might find interesting. I found that she quite possibly had a complete downward pointing pentagram on her natal chart that centered on the nadir of her chart, if she was in fact born earlier than the given time of exactly 9:30 a.m., which I think is an obvious estimation rounded to the nearest half hour. If she was born between 9:22:17 and 9:26:07, like I have a hunch she was, then she definitely had a perfect pentagram with the 5th degree of Scorpio for her nadir. When they point down, centered on the nadir... it's all about getting what you can with what you got... Madonna may have sung about being a material girl but I think Marilyn lived it. That kind of ambition coupled with sleeping with powerful politicians, and men who were powerfully "connected", along with highly clairvoyant ability would certainly seem to add up to an Epstein type suicide. Good to see you back and writing. It's been awhile. :smile: [/QUOTE]
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