Sabian Symbols and Stories

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Gemini 16

The fourth 5-pointed star is comprised of the following symbols:

Gemini 16: A woman suffragist haranguing.
Capricorn 22: A general accepting defeat gracefully.
Leo 28: Many little birds on the limb of a large tree.
Aries 4: Two lovers strolling through a secluded walk.
Scorpio 10: A fellowship supper.


The new film Suffragettes, starring Meryl Streep, Carey Mulligan, and Helena Bonham Carter, would seem to draw inspiration from this first symbol in this set.

Here's a link to the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HdQ0iVrl2Y

here's the movie poster:

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And here's a still from the film emphasizing some of the haranguing:


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Bunheads

The 14th five-pointed star is comprised of the following Sabian Symbols (wording as given by Jones, 1953):

Aries 14: A serpent coiling near a man and a woman.
Scorpio 20: A woman drawing two dark curtains aside.
Gemini 26: Winter frost in the woods
Aquarius 2: An unexpected thunderstorm
Virgo 8: First dancing instruction.

The comedy-drama TV series Bunheads, which premiered in 2012 contained appears to have been inspired by this combination of symbols--most obviously Scorpio 20 and Virgo 8:

Bunheads is the tale of Michelle Simms, a former ballerina 'bunhead' who wound up as a Las Vegas showgirl. Seeing her life and career at a dead end, she impulsively takes up the offer of marriage from her persistent admirer, Hubbell Flowers, and moves to his sleepy coastal town, the fictional town of Paradise in Southern California, thirty miles south of Ojai, California. Once there, Hubbell is killed in a car accident and Michelle struggles to adjust to life in a small town and teaching alongside her mother-in-law, Fanny Flowers, at her ballet school: the Paradise Dance Academy.​

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As is often the case, the symbols work into the story literally and figuratively. Virgo 8 (First dancing instruction) obviously takes the form here of first experiences as a dance instructor. Scorpio 20 shows up in a few ways, most notably in the opening minutes when the protagonist fails to get a promised audition for the hit musical Chicago and it become clear to her that that the "curtain" has or is soon coming down on her career. We even see her standing in her modest apartment on the outskirts of LV, in front of open blinds, and looking out into the dark of the night.
 

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The 11th five-pointed star is comprised of the following Sabian Symbols (original wording as given by Jones, 1953):

Aries 11 The president of the country
Scorpio 17 A woman the father of her own child
*Gemini 23 Three fledglings in a nest high in a tree*
Capricorn 29 A woman reading tea leaves
Virgo 5 A man dreaming of fairies

The 2021 independent film entitled "The Starling" would seem to be built around at least three of the symbols in this star. Here's a link to the IMDB page with trailer. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5164438/ and the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starling

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Here's Wikipedia's plot summary:

"A married couple, the Maynards, suffer after the death of their baby daughter from SIDS. The husband, Jack (Chris O’Dowd), is in a residential mental hospital while his wife Lilly (Melissa McCarthy) remains at home, dealing with her own feelings alone.

Lilly is trying to hold it together for Jack's return from the facility. Employed at a grocery store, she works to maintain her family's property. As if Lilly's troubles weren't bad enough, a starling whose nest is in a tree in her backyard begins to harass and attack her and she becomes obsessed with stopping it. She's also driving two hours every week to see Jack, wondering if he really wants to come home, and what life would be like if he did.

Prioritizing Jack's grief without managing her own, a counselor at Jack's hospital suggests Lilly see someone for her own mental health before he returns home. This leads her to the office of Larry Fine (Kevin Kline), a quirky psychiatrist-turned-veterinarian. They form a unique and unlikely bond as they help each other acknowledge and confront their problems. He helps her with the starling whilst embedding ways to help her grief into the conversations. Lilly starts to become attached to the bird and when she accidentally hits it with a stone and nearly kills it she turns to Larry to help her revive the bird.

When the bird recovers, Lilly lets it go. She and the bird start to tolerate each other instead of abusing one another.

Jack returns home and they reconcile and work on their relationship, facing the world together. The film ends with them gardening watched by the starling that is still spending time in their garden."

Here's my take.

The main symbol, or key stone symbol, if there is one, might be Gemini 23: Three fledglings in a nest high in a tree. You'll actually see them at the 1:57 mark in the trailer. Actually two fledgling birds (belonging to the starling) and one "fledgling" child (the one that the protagonists lost).

Virgo 5 (a Man dreaming of fairies) is Jack, Lilly's husband, who spends much of the time in the film in a mental hospital. He doesn't exactly "dream of fairies" but fairies are magical creatures and he does engage in a kind of "magical thinking."

Finally, Scorpio 17 (a woman the father of her own child) is another candidate for the keystone symbol. The way it works in the film is obvious: Jack is unable to cope and Lilly has to keep home and hearth together in his absence, plus process her own grief. There's a line in the trailer where she says to Jack, around the 1:34 minute mark in the trailer, "I carried her for 9 months. So why are you here (now)?"
 

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The BritBox series entitled "Traces" (2019) "...focuses on three female forensic professionals, Emma Hedges, Sarah Gordon and Kathy Torrance, working together at the fictitious Scottish Institute of Forensic Science and Anatomy (SIFA) in Dundee, Scotland, as they uncover the truth of a murder case and bring a killer to justice."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traces_(TV_series)

In the first episode, "Emma, Kathy and Sarah... try to unearth the truth about an unsolved murder that's very close to home. A fatal fire in a nightclub proves an ill omen for Emma’s return to Dundee. Her mother’s unsolved murder comes into sharp focus, forcing Emma to turn to her new boss, Sarah, for support."

The 30th five-pointed star of Sabian Symbols is comprised of these five:

Sagittarius 6 A game of cricket
Cancer 12 A Chinese woman nursing a baby with a message
Aquarius 18 A man unmasked
Virgo 24 Mary and her white lamb
Aries 30 A duck pond and its brood

This story did something interesting. The first we see of Sarah Gordon, a professor at SIFA, it's about the forensics and chemistry of fires. And understanding the causes and the people behind the nightclub fire drives the action of the entire first season. As it turns out, the man indirectly responsible for the fire is the same man responsible for the murder of Emma's mother. And yet, fire's not there in the symbols. Something rather clever was done here that I've seen more than a few times. it's one degree away. Aquarius 19 is "a forest fire quenched." Also notable is that opposing Aquarius 18 ( a man unmasked) is the Leo 18: a professor of chemistry.

With that in mind, consider the following:

Symbols Aries 30 (a duck pond and its brood), Virgo 24 (Mary and her white lamb), and Cancer 12 (A chinese woman nursing a baby with a message) are all about women/mothers and their young or young children. In addition, the three protagonists are all women, all forensic scientists. Note the forensic descends from the same etymological root as "forest."

Aquarius 19 gives us the "fire"

Aquarius 18 (a man unmasked) is the murdered of the mother figure and the story reaches its climax with his "unmasking" and subsequent trial.

Cancer 6 (a game of cricket): there is no explicit mention of the game of cricket or any particular match or team. There is, however, much in the story about slang terms for cricket, mostly those of sexual nature that i won't discuss here.

Trailer: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9788012/
 

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The 61st five-pointed star is comprised of the following Sabian symbols

Gemini 1 A glass-bottomed boat in still water
Capricorn 7 A veiled prophet of power
Leo 13 An old sea captain rocking
Pisces 19 A master instructing his pupil
Libra 25 Information in the symbol of an autumn leaf

Careful consideration of these reveals that the first Star Wards movie was built on the 2nd and 4th of the set. Subsequent films continued to elaborate on them. Consistent with PI 19 (A master instructing his pupil) we had, of course, the Jedi Masters--Obi Wan Kenobe and Yoda. The pupil was Luke Skywalker.

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As for Capricorn 7 (A veiled prophet of power), it was Darth Vader who embodied this symbol.

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The 62nd five pointed star is based on the following five Sabian Symbols:

Libra 26 An eagle and a large white dove turning into the other
Gemini 2 Santa Claus filling stockings furtively
Capricorn 8 Birds in the house singing happily
Leo 14 The human soul awaiting opportunity for expression
Pisces 20 A table set for an evening meal


Hollywood never tires of making movies about Santa Claus. Among them, one that made extraordinarily good use of the above symbols was the 1994 blockbuster, The Santa Clause starring Tim Allen. If you're good at interpreting these symbols, all you need do is read the plot summary below to see how they all factor in. Really quite amazing, actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Santa_Clause#Plot

"Successful toy salesman Scott Calvin prepares to spend Christmas Eve with his son Charlie. Scott wants Charlie to maintain his belief in Santa Claus, despite not believing himself. Scott's ex-wife, Laura, and her psychiatrist husband Dr. Neil Miller, both stopped believing in Santa at a young age and feel that Charlie needs to do so as well (after an older kid made Charlie upset by saying Santa isn't real).

On Christmas Eve, Scott burns the turkey so he and Charlie go to Denny's for dinner. That night, they are awakened by a noise on the roof. Scott startles a man standing on the roof, who slips and falls to the ground. The dead man's body vanishes, leaving behind a red suit and business card that states: "If something should happen to me, put on my suit. The reindeer will know what to do." Scott dons the suit and spends the rest of the night delivering gifts before the reindeer take them to the North Pole. Bernard the head elf explains that, by putting on the suit, Scott is subject to a legal technicality known as "The Santa Clause", and has accepted all of Santa's duties and responsibilities. Bernard gives Scott eleven months to get his affairs in order before reporting back to the North Pole on Thanksgiving. Confused and overwhelmed, Scott changes into the pajamas provided to him and falls asleep.

Awakening in his own bed, Scott thinks it was all a dream until he realizes he is wearing the pajamas. When Charlie proudly tells his class that Scott is Santa, Laura, Neil, and the principal ask Scott to tell Charlie that it was a dream but Scott instead asks him to keep it to themselves. Over the course of the year Scott acquires a liking for milk and cookies (and other desserts) and gains a lot of weight, along with a thick beard despite attempts to shave it, and his hair whitens and is unaffected by dyeing. After Laura and Neil witness children wanting to sit on Scott's lap at Charlie's soccer game they assume Scott is deliberately misleading Charlie and decide to have a judge suspend Scott's visitation rights which devastates him. At Thanksgiving, Scott goes to Laura and Neil's house to say goodbye to Charlie but Neil won't let him anywhere near Charlie. When Neil insists that Scott is not Santa, Charlie shows Scott a magical snow globe that Bernard had given him, finally convincing Scott that he really is Santa. When Laura and Neil allow Scott a minute to talk to Charlie alone, Bernard appears and transports him and Charlie to the North Pole. Thinking Scott has kidnapped Charlie, Laura and Neil call the police.

On Christmas Eve, Scott sets out to deliver the gifts with Charlie in tow. Upon arriving at Laura and Neil's home, Scott is arrested. The elves send a team to break him out of jail. Scott convinces Laura and Neil that he is Santa, and asks Charlie to spend Christmas with them as they are his family too. Laura burns the court papers suspending Scott's visitation rights, and tells Scott he can visit anytime. Bernard appears and tells Charlie that any time he shakes his snow globe his father will appear. Before leaving, Scott gives Laura and Neil the two Christmas presents that they never got as children, which had caused their disbelief in Santa. Scott proves his identity to the police before heading off, and Neil apologizes to Charlie who forgives him.

Charlie summons Scott back with the snow globe and Laura agrees to let Charlie go with Scott in the sleigh to finish delivering the presents."


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The 64th five-pointed star is comprised of the following Sabian Symbols:

Leo 16 Sunshine just after a storm
Pisces 22 A man bringing down the new law from Sinai
Libra 28 A man in the midst of brightening influences
Gemini 4 Holly and mistletoe
Capricorn 10 An albatross feeding from the hand

An entire genre of films has been motivated by this set of symbols--most of a religious variety. Foremost among them is, of course, The Ten Commandments, which implied in Pisces 22. It was, after all, Moses who brought down the 10 Commandments during his time leading his followers from Egypt to the Holy Land. That said, films about other saints, holy men, and prophets also fit well here.

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The 49th five-pointed star is comprised of these Sabian Symbols:

Leo 1 A case of apoplexy
Pisces 7 A cross lying on rocks
Libra 13 Children blowing soap bubbles
Taurus 19 A newly formed continent
Sagittarius 25 A chubby boy on a hobbyhorse


Even before I tell you you the movie, you should be able to see the themes. One is KIDS or kids at heart. And they're playing, doing kid-stuff. You've to Libra 13 (CHILDREN blowing soap bubbles) and Sagittarius 25 (A chubby BOY on a hobby horse). There's apoplexy (Leo 1) which is an extreme state of frustration or anger, a strong emotional response, a tantrum. And what's the cause? Perhaps a severe test or trial, persecution or a persecution complex--why am I being picked on?-- or if really extreme, crucifixion (Pisces 7: a cross lying on rocks). Another possibility is being thrust into a new environment where the kid has to grow up, where his mettle is tested, where he's taken out of his comfort zone and put in a new world (Taurus 19, A newly formed continent).

The 1994 film Tommy Boy starring Chris Farley embodied this star quite nicely. In short, the film "tells the story of a socially and emotionally immature man (Farley) who learns lessons about friendship and self-worth, following the sudden death of his industrialist father."


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And here's you shot from the film where Leo 1 (A case of apoplexy) is evidenced. Leo = Fire sign. Tommy is apoplectic ( Extremely angry; furious) and starts a fire on the desk.

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The 26th five-pointed star is following Sabian Symbols

Aries 26 A man possessed of more gifts than he can hold
Sagittarius 2 The ocean covered with whitecaps
Cancer 8 Rabbits dressed in clothes and on parade
Aquarius 14 A train entering a tunnel
Virgo 20 An automobile caravan

Two very similar movies in the 1990's were made almost back to back in the mid-1990's drew inspiration from this star.
They were the Australian " The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" (1994) and the American "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything." (1995).

Each film feature three drag queens and/or transgender males who go on cross-country road trips.

To Wong Foo: "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar is a 1995 American road comedy film ... starring Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze, and John Leguizamo as three New York City drag queens who embark on a road trip.
Its title refers to an iconic autographed photo of Julie Newmar that they carry with them on their journey." ...
Plot: After tying for the win in New York City's "Drag Queen of the Year" contest, Noxeema Jackson and Vida Boheme win a trip to Hollywood to take part in the even bigger "Miss Drag Queen of America Pageant". Before they depart, Vida persuades Noxeema to take along the inexperienced "drag princess" Chi-Chi Rodriguez as their protégé (they initially refer to him simply as a "boy in a dress" rather than as a full-fledged drag queen). To do this, they cash in their plane tickets to a friend, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt (Robin Williams in a cameo role), and use the money to buy a yellow convertible 1967 Cadillac DeVille.
They set off for Los Angeles in it, carrying with them an iconic autographed photo of Julie Newmar..."

Priscilla Queen of the Desert: "Australian road comedy film... The plot follows two drag queens played by Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce and a transgender woman, played by Terence Stamp, as they journey across the Australian Outback from Sydney to Alice Springs in a tour bus that they have named "Priscilla", along the way encountering various groups and individuals.
The film's title references the slang term "queen" for a drag queen or female impersonator. ... Anthony "Tick" Belrose (Hugo Weaving), using the drag pseudonym of Mitzi Del Bra, is a Sydney-based drag queen who accepts an offer to perform his drag act at Lasseters Hotel Casino Resort managed by his estranged wife Marion in Alice Springs, a remote town in central Australia. After persuading his friends and fellow performers, Bernadette Bassenger (Terence Stamp), a recently bereaved transgender woman, and Adam Whitely (Guy Pearce), a flamboyant and obnoxious younger drag queen who goes under the drag name Felicia Jollygoodfellow, to join him, the three set out for a four-week run at
the casino in a large tour bus, which Adam christens "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert".


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The 22nd five pointed star is comprised of the following Sabian Symbols:

Virgo 16 An orangutan
Aries 22 The gate to the garden of desire
Scorpio 28 The king of the fairies approaching his domain
Cancer 4 A cat arguing with a mouse
Aquarius 10 A popularity that proves ephemeral

The 2008 Academy Award nominated film, The Wrestler, drew inspiration from this set of symbols.

Here's a synopsis of the story: The protagonist is "an aging professional wrestler who, despite his failing health and waning fame, continues to wrestle in an attempt to cling to the success of his 1980s heyday. He also tries to mend his relationship with his estranged daughter and to find romance with a woman who works as a stripper." From Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrestler_(2008_film)

Virgo 16: The literal translation of the Malay "orangutan" is “wild man" a very apt description of the professional wrestler protagonist, in particular. Just look at him!

Aquarius 10 (A popularity that proves ephemeral): per the above synopsis-- "waning fame", "cling to the success of his 1980's heydays" when he was a king of the ring, adored by legions of fans (Scorpio 28, a King of the fairies approaching his domain).

The symbol Aries 22 (the gate to the garden of desire) finds its place in the protagonist's relationship with the aging stripper while Cancer 4 (a cat arguing with a mouse) is found in the protagonist's attempt to rehabilitate his relations with his daughter.

Finally, it is very interesting that the "Rocky" franchise is based on the adjacent star, the 21st one which includes Aries 21 (a pugilist/boxer entering the ring).

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The fifth five-pointed star is comprised of these following Sabian Symbols:

Scorpio 11 A drowning man rescued
Gemini 17 The head of health dissolved into the head of mentality
Capricorn 23 Two awards for bravery in combat
Leo 29 A mermaid
Aries 5 A triangle with wings

The 1980's Tom Cruise box office smash, Top Gun, draws inspiration from this star.

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Aries 5 (A triangle with wings) is, of course the F-14 Tomcat fighter jets that the protagonist "Maverick" and the other Naval Aviators pilot.



Capricorn 23 (Two awards for bravery in combat) is fairly obvious. It's a movie about Navy fighter pilots during the end of the Cold War. Of course there are numerous combats sequences (dog fights) with Russian MiGs. Though no literal awards are pinned on chests, there is acknowledgement.

Leo 29 (a Mermaid) comes in a few ways. There is the very lovely, female (maid) flight instructor, who becomes romantically involved with Maverick. The setting for the flight school is the Naval Air Station Miramar. The word in Spanish for "sea" is Mar. The French word for sea is mer. Mira = to view, to see; Mar = sea. "Miramar" in Spanish means sea-view. So literally See the Sea.

Gemini 17 (The head of health dissolves into the head of mentality) is seen in Maverick's story arc from "Maverick", then brash and impulsive and cocky young fighter pilot growing into--by the end of the film--a thinking man, a mature, battle-tested, and instructor at Miramar, a man who overcame his inner demons and outer opponents who can now teach the next generation of "Mavericks."

Scorpio 11 (A drowning man rescued) is a key sequence in the film and a kay part of Maverick's developmental arc and overcoming his fears and self-doubt. Here's how Wikipedia describes it: "During the graduation party, Viper and Jester call in the newly graduated aviators with the orders to deploy. Iceman, Hollywood, and Maverick are ordered to immediately return to the Enterprise to deal with a "crisis situation", providing air support for the rescue of the SS Layton, a disabled ship that has drifted into hostile waters."

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[The following presentation of the Sabian Symbols are all from Dane Rudhyar's book "An Astrological Mandala: The Cycle Of Transformations And It's 360 Symbolic Phases". Presented in the order that is a cycle of transformation of true spiritual discipleship, i.e beginning from the 30th degree of Virgo [as Dane stated, numerous times, "the true path of discipleship begins in Virgo"] and that culminates at the 1st degree of Libra, as is according to the "Star", as presented and explained by Dane in Part Three, Chapter 3, of the same book, and based on the M.C. of the natal chart I produced and contend is the true natal chart of Jesus/Yeshu'a of Nazareth, r.e the 1st degree of Cancer. Underlined text is my own contribution for emphasis. ]

"VIRGO 13°: A POWERFUL STATESMAN OVER-COMES A STATE OF POLITICAL HYSTERIA.
KEYNOTE:
The focusing of the collective need for order and structural interdependence into a personage who incarnates the answer to this need.
The husband role of fecundator of nature here takes on a collective social significance. We are at the stage where a powerful realization of the very purpose of the cycle of existence faces the chaotic remains of a dis-structured past. The character of the leader is always delineated by the need, subconscious though it may be, of the unformed agglomeration of entities he is called upon by destiny to lead. In time the leader will be worshiped as the 'divine Father' of the society he structured.
At this third stage of the thirty-third sequence we see a new type of characterization of the many-faceted polarization of positive and negative. We have before us a personage endowed with CHARISMA, this elusive and mysterious power that comes from a man's or woman's openness to the power of planetary evolution.


CANCER 1°: ON A SHIP THE SAILORS LOWER AN OLD FLAG AND RAISE A NEW ONE.
KEYNOTE
: A radical change of allegiance exteriorized in a symbolical act: a point of no return.
We have now reached a square (go-degree angle) to the beginning of the cyclic process. This is a moment of crisis, a sharp turning point. In the zodiacal cycle, at the summer solstice the northward motion of the sun (in 'decimation') stops; the sun rises and sets as far north of exact east and west as it can during the year-cycle. Its motion is now reversed. Slowly the sunset points move southward on the western horizon, and the length of the day decreases. In the lunation cycle (from New Moon to New Moon) this is the First Quarter phase. On the 'ship' which symbolizes the ego-consciousness floating, as it were, on the sea of the vast Unconscious, the individualized will makes a basic decision. The dominant Yang force allows the Yin force to begin its six-month long rise to power. The 'collective' will gradually overcomes the 'individual', and at the end the state will overpower the person. Now, however, the individual person enjoys his most glorious
hour; he exults in his ability to make a 'free decision'- i.e. to act as an individual who selects his life goal and his allegiance.
This is the first stage in the nineteenth five-fold series of degree symbols. In a decisive act heavy with consequences, the symbolic college youth might realize that he should bring to an end his quest for the ideal companion and enter into matrimony. He assents to the possibility of progeny, of home responsibility. His consciousness accepts a process of fundamental REORIENTATION, implying the stabilization of his energies.


ARIES 19°: THE 'MAGIC CARPET' OF ORIENTAL IMAGERY.
KEYNOTE:
The use of creative imagination.
A way of life refusing a hectic involvement in social competition and waste-producing overproduction allows for the development of unattached and transcendent understanding. The static floor (carpet) on which man's feet (symbols of understanding) rest can become transformed into the means for great flights of imagination and super-physical perception. The period of rest from outwardly directed activity bound to collective normality presents the creative mind with the possibility of surveying in dreams the totality of the present-day social situation, thus 'to see whole'.
The fourth stage of the fourth five-fold sequence of symbols invokes the possibility of developing a new technique of perception, A STRIFE-TRANSCENDING AND UNATTACHED OUTLOOK UPON EVERYDAY REALITY.


AQUARIUS 7°: A CHILD IS SEEN BEING BORN OUT OF AN EGG.
KEYNOTE:
The emergence of new mutations according to the great rhythms of the cosmos.
The ancient symbolism of the Cosmic Egg (Hiranyagharba in Sanskrit) out of which a new universe is born can be interpreted at several levels. Here we see the appearance of a new type of human being who is not born from 'Ancestors' and who therefore is free from the inertia of mankind's past. He is a new product of evolution, a mutant. He constitutes a fresh projection of the creative Spirit that emanates from the cosmic or planetary Whole, and not from any local culture and racial tradition.
This second stage symbol is in contrast with the preceding one. It can be said to announce the EMERGENCE OF GLOBAL MAN for the New Age. The power of the whole is focused within him in perfect freedom from ancient standards of value based on local conditions.

SCORPIO 25°: AN X-RAY PHOTOGRAPH.
KEYNOTE:
The capacity to acquire a knowledge of the structural factors in all existence.
The true philosopher is able to grasp and significantly evaluate what underlies all manifestations of life. His mind's eye penetrates through the superficialities of existence and perceives the framework that gives an at least relatively permanent 'form' to all organized systems. Thus if the structure is weak, deformed by persistent strain, or unbalanced, the basic causes of outer disturbances and dis-ease can be discovered.
This symbol concludes the forty-seventh five-fold sequence. It gives an added dimension to the preceding four. For instance, it provides the conscience of the individual who refuses to obey his society with a depth-understanding of what is wrong in the situation he faces. Beyond the powerful feeling quality of 'peak experiences', the mind can understand the great Principles of which they were the manifestations. This is STRUCTURAL KNOWLEDGE in contrast to existential knowledge."

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Very cool PTV! I know this Star well as I have natal Pluto at Virgo 13, natal Jupiter at Aries 19. My daughter's natal Sun at Scorpio 25 (she completes me!). Though I'm no Jesus, I would say that I'm living out this star as we speak. Thanks so much for this.


[The following presentation of the Sabian Symbols are all from Dane Rudhyar's book "An Astrological Mandala: The Cycle Of Transformations And It's 360 Symbolic Phases". Presented in the order that is a cycle of transformation of true spiritual discipleship, i.e beginning from the 30th degree of Virgo [as Dane stated, numerous times, "the true path of discipleship begins in Virgo"] and that culminates at the 1st degree of Libra, as is according to the "Star", as presented and explained by Dane in Part Three, Chapter 3, of the same book, and based on the M.C. of the natal chart I produced and contend is the true natal chart of Jesus/Yeshu'a of Nazareth, r.e the 1st degree of Cancer. Underlined text is my own contribution for emphasis. ]

"VIRGO 13°: A POWERFUL STATESMAN OVER-COMES A STATE OF POLITICAL HYSTERIA.
KEYNOTE:
The focusing of the collective need for order and structural interdependence into a personage who incarnates the answer to this need.
The husband role of fecundator of nature here takes on a collective social significance. We are at the stage where a powerful realization of the very purpose of the cycle of existence faces the chaotic remains of a dis-structured past. The character of the leader is always delineated by the need, subconscious though it may be, of the unformed agglomeration of entities he is called upon by destiny to lead. In time the leader will be worshiped as the 'divine Father' of the society he structured.
At this third stage of the thirty-third sequence we see a new type of characterization of the many-faceted polarization of positive and negative. We have before us a personage endowed with CHARISMA, this elusive and mysterious power that comes from a man's or woman's openness to the power of planetary evolution.


CANCER 1°: ON A SHIP THE SAILORS LOWER AN OLD FLAG AND RAISE A NEW ONE.
KEYNOTE
: A radical change of allegiance exteriorized in a symbolical act: a point of no return.
We have now reached a square (go-degree angle) to the beginning of the cyclic process. This is a moment of crisis, a sharp turning point. In the zodiacal cycle, at the summer solstice the northward motion of the sun (in 'decimation') stops; the sun rises and sets as far north of exact east and west as it can during the year-cycle. Its motion is now reversed. Slowly the sunset points move southward on the western horizon, and the length of the day decreases. In the lunation cycle (from New Moon to New Moon) this is the First Quarter phase. On the 'ship' which symbolizes the ego-consciousness floating, as it were, on the sea of the vast Unconscious, the individualized will makes a basic decision. The dominant Yang force allows the Yin force to begin its six-month long rise to power. The 'collective' will gradually overcomes the 'individual', and at the end the state will overpower the person. Now, however, the individual person enjoys his most glorious
hour; he exults in his ability to make a 'free decision'- i.e. to act as an individual who selects his life goal and his allegiance.
This is the first stage in the nineteenth five-fold series of degree symbols. In a decisive act heavy with consequences, the symbolic college youth might realize that he should bring to an end his quest for the ideal companion and enter into matrimony. He assents to the possibility of progeny, of home responsibility. His consciousness accepts a process of fundamental REORIENTATION, implying the stabilization of his energies.


ARIES 19°: THE 'MAGIC CARPET' OF ORIENTAL IMAGERY.
KEYNOTE:
The use of creative imagination.
A way of life refusing a hectic involvement in social competition and waste-producing overproduction allows for the development of unattached and transcendent understanding. The static floor (carpet) on which man's feet (symbols of understanding) rest can become transformed into the means for great flights of imagination and super-physical perception. The period of rest from outwardly directed activity bound to collective normality presents the creative mind with the possibility of surveying in dreams the totality of the present-day social situation, thus 'to see whole'.
The fourth stage of the fourth five-fold sequence of symbols invokes the possibility of developing a new technique of perception, A STRIFE-TRANSCENDING AND UNATTACHED OUTLOOK UPON EVERYDAY REALITY.


AQUARIUS 7°: A CHILD IS SEEN BEING BORN OUT OF AN EGG.
KEYNOTE:
The emergence of new mutations according to the great rhythms of the cosmos.
The ancient symbolism of the Cosmic Egg (Hiranyagharba in Sanskrit) out of which a new universe is born can be interpreted at several levels. Here we see the appearance of a new type of human being who is not born from 'Ancestors' and who therefore is free from the inertia of mankind's past. He is a new product of evolution, a mutant. He constitutes a fresh projection of the creative Spirit that emanates from the cosmic or planetary Whole, and not from any local culture and racial tradition.
This second stage symbol is in contrast with the preceding one. It can be said to announce the EMERGENCE OF GLOBAL MAN for the New Age. The power of the whole is focused within him in perfect freedom from ancient standards of value based on local conditions.

SCORPIO 25°: AN X-RAY PHOTOGRAPH.
KEYNOTE:
The capacity to acquire a knowledge of the structural factors in all existence.
The true philosopher is able to grasp and significantly evaluate what underlies all manifestations of life. His mind's eye penetrates through the superficialities of existence and perceives the framework that gives an at least relatively permanent 'form' to all organized systems. Thus if the structure is weak, deformed by persistent strain, or unbalanced, the basic causes of outer disturbances and dis-ease can be discovered.
This symbol concludes the forty-seventh five-fold sequence. It gives an added dimension to the preceding four. For instance, it provides the conscience of the individual who refuses to obey his society with a depth-understanding of what is wrong in the situation he faces. Beyond the powerful feeling quality of 'peak experiences', the mind can understand the great Principles of which they were the manifestations. This is STRUCTURAL KNOWLEDGE in contrast to existential knowledge."

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sdh3

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PTV: Looking at the movie poster for "The Greatest Story Ever Told", we clearly see the imagery of Scorpio 24 (Crowds coming down the mountain to listen to one man ) and Aquarius 6 (A performer of a mystery play). Remember that a "mystery play" is not the way people think of it nowadays like murder mystery dinner theater. The term means something else here. Specifically, a "mystery play" is "A medieval drama based on scriptural events especially in the life of Jesus." https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=mystery play

The five symbols for the 18th five-pointed star are

Aquarius 6 A performer of a mystery play
Virgo 12 A bride with her veil snatched away
Aries 18 An empty hammock
Scorpio 24 Crowds coming down the mountain to listen to one man
Gemini 30 Bathing beauties


Gemini 30 might, in this context, be baptism. A second definition of a hammock is "a small natural hill" which could be an allusion to the mount upon which Christ was transfigured or the one on which he was Crucified. And the bride with her veil snatched away could be Mary Magdalene (??). But your the expert, PTV, so you tell me.
 

piercethevale

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PTV: Looking at the movie poster for "The Greatest Story Ever Told", we clearly see the imagery of Scorpio 24 (Crowds coming down the mountain to listen to one man ) and Aquarius 6 (A performer of a mystery play). Remember that a "mystery play" is not the way people think of it nowadays like murder mystery dinner theater. The term means something else here. Specifically, a "mystery play" is "A medieval drama based on scriptural events especially in the life of Jesus." https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=mystery play

The five symbols for the 18th five-pointed star are

Aquarius 6 A performer of a mystery play
Virgo 12 A bride with her veil snatched away
Aries 18 An empty hammock
Scorpio 24 Crowds coming down the mountain to listen to one man
Gemini 30 Bathing beauties


Gemini 30 might, in this context, be baptism. A second definition of a hammock is "a small natural hill" which could be an allusion to the mount upon which Christ was transfigured or the one on which he was Crucified. And the bride with her veil snatched away could be Mary Magdalene (??). But your the expert, PTV, so you tell me.

I'm not going to touch that one.
We have among our membership a woman whom is the re-incarnation of Mary Magdalene but I'm not at liberty to give up her identity.

My own "Star" based on my M.C. is the one Dane used for an example in the chapter of his book titled, "The Cross and the Star"...as my M.C. [and Po Fortune] is in the 25th of Leo. The 25th of Leo also happens t be the Hermetic Lot of Eros derived from the natal chart I contend is that of Yeshu'a of Nazareth. The Sabian Symbolism found for ones' "Lot of Eros" is representative of those one seeks as their companions on their spiritual path, their posse. The 7th of Leo is my S. Node, the United States N. Node and the aforementioned reincarnation of Mary Magdalene's M.C. and the location of Black Moon Lilith on her natal chart.
I have come to find myself madly attracted to her, but figure it to be a forbidden love, having been Judas in a previous incarnation... not to mention that she's not even half my age... which is FROWNED UPON BY OUR SOCIETY ..... please don't ask, I ain't telling, but you may guess and may already have?


It's tough to have been the Judas....:crying:
 

piercethevale

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I should of added that the 7th of Aquarius is one of the points of a Star based on Libra 1°, which I contend is the Asc. of the natal chart of Yeshu'a...
Note the the esoteric, occult and Gnostic number for Mariam, the Virgin Mother, is 55.
That's also representative of a Grand semi quintile.
The Sabian Symbol for the 7th degree of Leo is [ibid.]

"LEO 7°: THE CONSTELLATIONS OF STARS SHINE BRILLIANTLY IN THE NIGHT SKY.

KEYNOTE:
The power of basic spiritual values which refer to man's common humanity and to all enduring archetypes.

The experience of the night sky with its multitude of stars, especially brilliant in all the countries from which astrology came, is just as basic and archetypal an experience as that of sunrise, full moon and seasonal changes. Every people on this Earth has developed the concept of constellations, probably because of a need to find order in existence and to personalize everything that could be given a permanent form. Such personalizations can be called 'psychic projections', but the projection concept should be worked out both ways. If man projects his basic human nature upon the star-filled night sky, is it not just as logical to say that the universe projects its own forever-evolving patterns of order upon human nature? In either case we deal with archetypal factors which endure through a long series of generations.

This second stage symbol once more stands in perfect contrast to the preceding one. The nearly unchanging patterns of star groups are opposed to the sequence of ever-changing fashions and social ideals. The Keyword here is PERMANENCE."
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piercethevale

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Taking my post above a few steps further...
It is a Star based on the I.C. of the natal chart I contend is the true natal chart of Yeshu'a of Nazareth [The "Naz"] and thus is the Star of the mundane events in his life.

But in more modern times... here we go....

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In the order of "Traditional" astrology, i.e. the cycle of transformation as it applies to the mundane.

[ibid.]

"TAURUS 25°: A VAST PUBLIC PARK.

KEYNOTE:
The cultivation of natural energies for collective use and recreation.

At this final stage of the sequence of symbols focusing on emotional-cultural values, we witness the positive and impressive results of man's collective endeavor to live in peace and to enjoy moments of relaxation. The public park is designed and kept for the enjoyment of all the people of the city.

This is a symbol of COLLECTIVE ENJOYMENT. The individual finds in the products of his culture an emotional enhancement born of the feeling of 'belonging' to a large, organized, peaceful whole.

LEO 7°: THE CONSTELLATIONS OF STARS SHINE BRILLIANTLY IN THE NIGHT SKY.

KEYNOTE:
The power of basic spiritual values which refer to man's common humanity and to all enduring archetypes.

The experience of the night sky with its multitude of stars, especially brilliant in all the countries from which astrology came, is just as basic and archetypal an experience as that of sunrise, full moon and seasonal changes. Every people on this Earth has developed the concept of constellations, probably because of a need to find order in existence and to personalize everything that could be given a permanent form. Such personalizations can be called 'psychic projections', but the projection concept should be worked out both ways. If man projects his basic human nature upon the star-filled night sky, is it not just as logical to say that the universe projects its own forever-evolving patterns of order upon human nature? In either case we deal with archetypal factors which endure through a long series of generations.

This second stage symbol once more stands in perfect contrast to the preceding one. The nearly unchanging patterns of star groups are opposed to the sequence of ever-changing fashions and social ideals. The Keyword here is PERMANENCE.

LIBRA 19°: A GANG OF ROBBERS IN HIDING.

KEYNOTE:
Protest against disharmonic social privilege.

It is questionable whether the formulation of the symbol at this place is adequate, but it is kept on general principle. One might rather think of Robin Hood and his band, or early Bolsheviks in Russia robbing banks to finance the revolution. The protest against an unbalanced society with its rigid stratification into classes can be seen as a positive factor, even if it challenges the principle of order, for it reveals dynamic qualities in individuals and the will to transformation. In another sense, it is the dark shadow of the ideal of 'nonpossessiveness'. The question is: How valid and effectual is this kind of protest?

The fourth stage in a five-fold sequence of symbols and phases usually presents us with at least a hint of technique. What can this mean at this level? Perhaps the fact that any effective resistance to the momentum of crystallized institutions should be organized if it is to be effective. Individuals alone are impotent in producing actual changes in social consciousness. A 'group' must be formed. The Keywords are GROUP PROTEST.

CAPRICORN 1°: AN INDIAN CHIEF CLAIMS POWER FROM THE ASSEMBLED TRIBE.

KEYNOTE:
The power and responsibility implied in any claim for leadership.

The religious ideal implied in the preceding symbol has now materialized or crystallized into sheer power — the power to lead the community and to ensure its welfare or even its physical survival. The energies released through group cooperation (Libra), deepened and emotionally experienced as forces of great potency (Scorpio), and given meaning and conscious purpose (Sagittarius) are now stabilized and hierarchized. The power of the group is turned into a measurable and carefully managed 'capital'. The words 'chief' and 'capital' come from the same Latin word, caput, meaning 'head'. A time comes in many lives when the individual finds himself placed in a situation that allows him to assume power over his comrades, however limited this power may be. Is he ready to do this effectively and responsibly? This is the supreme test of man in society. It complements its polar opposite (summer solstice degree), which refers to the acceptance by the individual of a new kind of allegiance as a foundation for the integration of his mature personality. Such a foundation may, but need not, refer to establishing a home.

This represents the first stage in a five-fold process — the fifty-fifth sequence of five symbols. It refers to the capacity latent in every individual to claim and assume AUTHORITY in a vital group-situation.

PISCES 13°: AN ANCIENT SWORD, USED IN MANY BATTLES, IS DISPLAYED IN A MUSEUM.

KEYNOTE:
Through the effectual use of his will a consecrated man can become a symbol of courage for all those who follow in his footsteps.

Will power is the ultimate spiritual weapon, and its undeviating use is the certification of individual worth. Wherever found, this symbol emphasizes the imperative need to make use of the will in meeting the basic challenges of the inner life as well as outer adversaries.

With this third symbol of the sixty-ninth sequence we see singled out and strongly emphasized the one power in man which is an assurance of victory in the contests generated by social (or occult) processes in which he has become an active part. The individual must use that WILL POWER, yet it is not really his own once he operates at a spiritual level. It is God's will operating through his mind which focuses its thrusts. It is, occultly speaking, the power of the Brotherhood — the energy of the Whole operating through the one-pointed individual who has made this Whole aware of the need for its use in a particular situation."

I rest my case, your Honor. :wink:
 
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sdh3

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The 8th five-pointed star is comprised of the following Sabian Symbols:

Capricorn 26 A water sprite
Virgo 2 A large white cross upraised
Aries 8 A large hat with streamers flying, facing east
Scorpio 14 Telephone linemen at work
Gemini 20 A cafeteria

The 2009 film "Everybody's Fine" starred Robert DeNiro as Frank Goode, "A widower who realized his only connection to his family was through his wife sets off on an impromptu road trip to reunite with each of his grown children."

From Screenit: "In the Goode family, Frank (ROBERT DE NIRO) was the breadwinner, working his entire life applying PVC coating to telephone lines, while his wife raised the kids and thus stayed in better contact with them once they grew up and moved out. Now retired and a widower of less than a year, Frank has planned their first family get-together since his wife's death, and thus he's disappointed when they all cancel on him. Accordingly, and against his doctor's advice,
Frank sets out on a cross-country road trip via bus and train to pay surprise visits to all of them.

From IMDb: "A widower who realized his only connection to his family was through his wife sets off on an impromptu
road trip to reunite with each of his grown children."

From Rotten Tomatoes: "Eight months after the death of his wife, Frank Goode looks forward to a reunion with his four adult children. When all of them cancel their visits at the last minute, Frank, against the advice of his doctor, sets out on a road trip to reconnect with his offspring. As he visits each one in turn, Frank finds that his children's lives are not quite as picture-perfect as they've made them out to be."


Dane Rudhyar's phrasing and interpretation of this symbol applies wonderfull to this story:

"(SCORPIO 14°): TELEPHONE LINEMEN AT WORK INSTALLING NEW CONNECTIONS.

KEYNOTE: The need to establish new channels of communication.

The growth of community feeling among separated human beings requires the development of constantly more complex means of interchanging feelings and ideas. Wherever this symbol for Scorpio 14° is found, the indication is that such channels of communication are essential for the success of any interpersonal relationship. They are not only to be built, but to be used significantly and wisely.

This fourth stage symbol brings to our attention the essential value of communicating with our fellow men and even our close associates — with whom such a communication may not always be easy. There can be no communion without communication at some level, including the level of biological attunement.

Keyword: THE WILL TO ASSOCIATION or COMPREHENSION."


The "communion" to which Rudhyar refers is echoed in Gemini 20 (a cafeteria) where in the film, so much of the communication occurs at meals, over dinner and lunch and coffee.

The "biological attunement" is evident too in that it's a father and his children that are having trouble communicating. They have for years but only he is just discovering it.

From Wikipedia: "During dinner, Frank asks Rosie why his adult children never talked to him and told him things, when they told their mother everything. She reveals that they were not comfortable opening up to him because he always expected too much of them and he was never a good listener."

Note: Not only are the telephone and power lines evident in the movie poster, they appear in the background of many more scenes that one would normally expect!

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sdh3

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Yes, I'm familiar with Dane's chapter on the Cross and the Star. Now as it applies to story telling, you need more than a cross and star. Specifically, as I've shown in a few dozen examples here, many popular stories and films are based on two or three degree symbols on the same five pointed star. Sometimes you'll even find 4 or all 5 worked in. Still, usually one or two are most prominent. Now depending on the kind of story you want to tell, aspects to those main 1-2 symbols come into play, as follows.

If telling a comedy, musical (but not rock-opera), something upbeat, family-friendly, and/or intended for children, or other light-hearted fare like comic operas, then you'll want to aspect those symbols with elements taken from symbols are trine to the 1-2 main symbols.

For Dramas, draw on symbols that are square and opposite to the 1-2 main symbols.

For stories that quirky, off-beat, whimsical (though not necessarily comedic), wacky, unconventional, etc, use symbols that are inconjunct.

For taut, tense, riveting, edge of your seat, nail-biting, psychological thrillers use semi-squares.

Finally, for epics, and or stories with non-stop action and adventure star with sextiles and just keep moving around my 60-degrees, if need be.

Now you know!
 
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