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<blockquote data-quote="JUPITERASC" data-source="post: 531317" data-attributes="member: 6273"><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>Birth and death have in common that they are both events that are timed by the breath</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>i.e. first inhalation and final exhalation</strong></span></span></span> <img src="https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/styles/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":smile:" title="Smile :smile:" data-shortname=":smile:" /></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong><u>And the medical personnel </u></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong><u>are not necessarily even aware precisely WHEN a newborn takes the first gasp of air </u></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong><u>because as poyi states </u></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong><u>there are too many other assessments to do</u></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>so</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>even if medical personnel notice the child is taking a breath</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>they are engrossed in other vital medical assessments</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>and that may not have been the first tiny gasp of intake of air by the newborn</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>very interesting subject</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>because</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>the entire natal chart is based on WHEN the official time of birth actually is</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>of course, similarly time of death is based on the final exhalation</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>HOWEVER</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>increasingly however, with today's medical interventions</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>such the case of Marlise Munoz are creating ethical dilemmas</strong><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://frederickleatherman.com/2014/01/16/unplug-marlise-munoz-from-life-support-immediately/" target="_blank">http://frederickleatherman.com/2014/01/16/unplug-marlise-munoz-from-life-support-immediately/</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong><u>QUOTE</u></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>I cannot stop pondering the ethical dilemma created by doctors </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>keeping Marlise Munoz’s decomposing corpse on a ventilator </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>so that the fetus in her womb can reach full term and be birthed into this world.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>Since the beginning of our species approximately 200,000 years ago, pregnant women have died and will continue to die. </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>That reality is not going to change, although the percentage of pregnant women who die probably will decline over time. </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>Until relatively recently, the fetus perished with the mother, </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>unless someone removed it with forceps </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>or cut it out of the dead or dying mother’s body </strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>and it had developed sufficiently to survive on its own.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Navy"><strong>Our technology has created an ethical dilemma.</strong></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JUPITERASC, post: 531317, member: 6273"] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]Birth and death have in common that they are both events that are timed by the breath[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]i.e. first inhalation and final exhalation[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] :smile: [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B][U]And the medical personnel are not necessarily even aware precisely WHEN a newborn takes the first gasp of air because as poyi states there are too many other assessments to do[/U] so even if medical personnel notice the child is taking a breath they are engrossed in other vital medical assessments and that may not have been the first tiny gasp of intake of air by the newborn very interesting subject because the entire natal chart is based on WHEN the official time of birth actually is of course, similarly time of death is based on the final exhalation HOWEVER increasingly however, with today's medical interventions such the case of Marlise Munoz are creating ethical dilemmas[/B][COLOR=Black][SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][URL]http://frederickleatherman.com/2014/01/16/unplug-marlise-munoz-from-life-support-immediately/[/URL][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B][U]QUOTE[/U] I cannot stop pondering the ethical dilemma created by doctors keeping Marlise Munoz’s decomposing corpse on a ventilator so that the fetus in her womb can reach full term and be birthed into this world. Since the beginning of our species approximately 200,000 years ago, pregnant women have died and will continue to die. That reality is not going to change, although the percentage of pregnant women who die probably will decline over time. Until relatively recently, the fetus perished with the mother, unless someone removed it with forceps or cut it out of the dead or dying mother’s body and it had developed sufficiently to survive on its own. Our technology has created an ethical dilemma.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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