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Blaze

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Colder season is coming. Excited, can't wait to walk among the sleeping trees and stumble upon hibernating bears in caves. Also, less people outside, so that's a plus. Woohoo, fu'ck off summertime, yee boi!
 

Ukpoohbear

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Is Boris being missed?

Just saw this part of the post. I certainly haven’t noticed but then I don’t keep track of the news. I may catch glimpses here and there. Last I heard was different politicians clambering for his position.

What’s been dominating the news recently, is the massive hike in electricity and gas prices that is due to happen imminently. It’s caused a petition to start where a group of people have agreed to stop paying their bills for it. Which has subsequently caused the petition to be condemned by others.

I received an email the other day that I will be receiving £400 from my electricity supplier to help with the rising cost. Has the same been happening in America?
 

Oddity

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We've had two days of 70 degree weather - bit of a respite from the 90 degree stuff - but it'll be back tomorrow. It's usually cool and rainy here year-round. Can they weather-manipulate droughts?
 

Blaze

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We've had two days of 70 degree weather - bit of a respite from the 90 degree stuff - but it'll be back tomorrow. It's usually cool and rainy here year-round. Can they weather-manipulate droughts?
If they can, they're going to get someone upset.

Makes me wonder though: Aren't they worried people will rise up? Or is society too distracted with fancy thingamajiggers? 🙃
 

Ukpoohbear

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Where are you from Oddity?

The UK has been having a heat wave too. To the point that most of the water supplier’s have issued a ‘hose pipe ban.’ I work for a water company, and there has literally been customers calling up to snitch on their neighbour’s for watering their garden 😂

It’s scary how quickly people turn on each other! This example is about water and is innocent enough but just thinking of it in a scarier context like Nazi Germany and how quickly your neighbour’s would have turned on you.
 

Blaze

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Lake Mead and the Great Salt are shrinking up over here. In China, the Yangtze has become a bunch of shallow puddles. In the woods, I've seen more dried out swamps and streams getting smaller and smaller.

Call me a forest dwelling moron but, "Earth ain't happy with us. No sir, we done pi'ssed off the planet."
 

david starling

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Where are you from Oddity?

The UK has been having a heat wave too. To the point that most of the water supplier’s have issued a ‘hose pipe ban.’ I work for a water company, and there has literally been customers calling up to snitch on their neighbour’s for watering their garden 😂

It’s scary how quickly people turn on each other! This example is about water and is innocent enough but just thinking of it in a scarier context like Nazi Germany and how quickly your neighbour’s would have turned on you.

How many gallons are permitted a month, based on the size of a household?
 

Ukpoohbear

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How many gallons are permitted a month, based on the size of a household?
There is no restriction on the amount of water per household, just a ban on using a pipe connected to a water mains.

Although, there has been a government roll-out over the past couple of years, where all water companies have been installing water meters on properties, even without the owner’s permission. The owner doesn’t need to switch to metered charges unless they want to though. I’ve spoken to owner’s threatening to phone the police if they come on to their property or get a solicitor.
 

david starling

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There is no restriction on the amount of water per household, just a ban on using a pipe connected to a water mains.

Although, there has been a government roll-out over the past couple of years, where all water companies have been installing water meters on properties, even without the owner’s permission. The owner doesn’t need to switch to metered charges unless they want to though. I’ve spoken to owner’s threatening to phone the police if they come on to their property or get a solicitor.
In California it's almost ALL ABOUT the water meter and household size! Drought restrictions and all that. But, landscape watering has restricted hours, and fines for sprinklers that malfunction and water sidewalks instead of plants.There are water patrols driving around looking for violations.

Also, during severe drought conditions, no car or cement washing with a hose.
 
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Ukpoohbear

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Oh wow, that sounds very strict and difficult for those who rely on water for their business! How much is water per cm3 in the USA? In England, it is just over £1 per cm3, plus approx £40 a year standing charges.

There is no hosepipe ban in Northern England and in Scotland, their water rates are included in their council tax charges, so they aren’t charged on their usage like with a water meter.
 

david starling

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Oh wow, that sounds very strict and difficult for those who rely on water for their business! How much is water per cm3 in the USA? In England, it is just over £1 per cm3, plus approx £40 a year standing charges.

There is no hosepipe ban in Northern England and in Scotland, their water rates are included in their council tax charges, so they aren’t charged on their usage like with a water meter.

It depends on how much water is used per month. It's a tiered system, so the water's inexpensive on the lowest usage level, then gets more expensive the more that's used. There are sewage line and waste disposal (trash pick-up) fees that remain constant, and can cost more than water usage per month.
 

Ukpoohbear

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It depends on how much water is used per month. It's a tiered system, so the water's inexpensive on the lowest usage level, then gets more expensive the more that's used. There are sewage line and waste disposal (trash pick-up) fees that remain constant, and can cost more than water usage per month.

That’s not very fair on households with more people like families! I wondered what would happen once everyone went on a water meter in the UK and the outcry over families being affected the most. There is a price cap available for low income families who meet certain other criteria, but still, it’s unfair.

I take it nobody goes for a bath in California! And water butt’s will be popular (funny names for things in the water business).
 

david starling

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That’s not very fair on households with more people like families! I wondered what would happen once everyone went on a water meter in the UK and the outcry over families being affected the most. There is a price cap available for low income families who meet certain other criteria, but still, it’s unfair.

I take it nobody goes for a bath in California! And water butt’s will be popular (funny names for things in the water business).
More people in the household raises the amount of allowable water usage before the higher tier price per gallon kicks in. The water part of the bill isn't a major problem until they add in the sewer and trash pick-up monthly charges.

Landscape watering has to be kept to a minimum though.
 

conspiracy theorist

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Where are you from Oddity?

The UK has been having a heat wave too. To the point that most of the water supplier’s have issued a ‘hose pipe ban.’ I work for a water company, and there has literally been customers calling up to snitch on their neighbour’s for watering their garden 😂

It’s scary how quickly people turn on each other! This example is about water and is innocent enough but just thinking of it in a scarier context like Nazi Germany and how quickly your neighbour’s would have turned on you.
You act as if these neighbours had allegiance to each other in the first place. Easy to sell someone out that you barely interact with (not all neighbours are created equal)
 

Ukpoohbear

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More people in the household raises the amount of allowable water usage before the higher tier price per gallon kicks in. The water part of the bill isn't a major problem until they add in the sewer and trash pick-up monthly charges.

Landscape watering has to be kept to a minimum though.
Ah ok that makes sense, the UK will probably follow suit eventually.

We go by cm3 and not gallon’s.

With regards to sewerage, you get customers who do a lot of gardening wondering why they are charged the same amount for water usage for their drainage charges as they are their fresh water. Usually they have read something on a forum and they call determined to be billed separately. Doesn’t happen though, but I see their point.

I can imagine the drought caps have hit businesses like landscaper’s hard. When I think of USA, I think of big gardens and water sprinkler’s. Just from the movies.
 

Ukpoohbear

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Does a "strict Vegan diet" prohibit cooked foods?
Nope, not that I have heard of. A raw diet is for health reasons. I thought about it for a bit but, nah. A strict vegan diet would restrict food colourings, since by law they have to be tested on animals and vegans are against animal testing. I’m looking into it more as I only read about that at the weekend just gone. I hate the idea of animal testing but there is a blurred line that begins, like, you would have to be against all medicine if you were going to be consistent. I didn’t opt for the Covid vaccine but I wouldn’t say no to other medicine.

When I was having an argument on here about Veganism a few month’s back, a few people thought it was funny to constantly repeat back that plants have feelings. I looked up what the blurred line would be for when an animal is sentient and when it is not, and it was for things like tiny water creatures that you could argue are not.

I also started looking into UK animal testing and it was very disheartening at first to learn how much animal testing went on that I was not aware of. However, since following some movements for a few weeks now, there has been some major achievements - there was one movement where they aimed to shut down a farm for rabbits - they constantly harassed the farmer Phil with peaceful protests, and some even broke in and liberated some of his rabbits - he began to spend so much on security it was no longer a financially viable business for him - so he decided to cave and agree to hand the rabbits over 🐰🐰 (PETA took the credit from the grassroots animal movement that actually accomplished this and tried to divert funding to themselves).

I have also been following the MBR Beagles movement - they also liberated 3 Beagles from a puppy farm a few weeks ago. But what about the 1000s more with no end in sight? This is a huge (American) corporate company, not some local farmer called Phil. I have been very disheartened since there was no end in sight and a meagre email to my local MP and received a reply that he was in favour of it. Well, just last week, the movement received a huge success in the form of publicity by being on mainstream breakfast tv - instigated by Meghan and Harry recently adopting a Beagle and saying they are against the UK testing of them, so it gave the movement coverage. 🐶 🐶

It’s simply amazing that what looks like insurmountable odds can eventually reach progress!!!
 
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